Xnd Hero Siege 1.43

[Shnxxx]

How can I play it for 1.26 version of War3?

 

[InSaNe_97]

Can you make an update? Please make more in-between stages!

 

[PapiSoDelicious]

Good version i really like it although

+Some of the early game items are useful although i think there should be more of it
+Not losing exp while switching hero cause it can be the determining factor sometimes if i can win the game or not while playing other X hero siege maps
+New heroes although it straight up crashed the game sometimes while using those on online matches

-No option to automatically pick 8 way at the start of the game
-Not nerfing the boots, it can singlehandedly break the game events if used incorrectly by other trolling players, prevent the boots from travelling on certain areas
-Even though i entered the ice way 2 command it still didn't open and the creeps are stuck on the other side of the door (without boots this could be a dead run already)

+ or - Ability changes
(Dryad's ability to damage bosses more disables the multi-arrow sometimes made me lose some of my single player games because my character didn't attack the one actually attacking the castle, the marine nerfs actually don't make much difference, it's even more capable now because of the wand of desillusion can be cloned after multiplying, i think the nerf should be in the marine hero because the clone deals too much damage make it at least 50% damage on level 1 and on level 2 70 or 80% because of the new item wand of desillusion can be used to amped up any hero that's gonna be cloned, it's basically autowin everytime the marine gets used, i do think removing his ethereal spell and replacing it with a placeholder passive ability can be the replacement cause it wins the early game arena faster and will encourage the use of other early game heroes that can go to arena early rather than straight up going to pick marine because he is really OP as a carry and even as support on online matches, i tried it on a multiplayer game and even barely doing anything, i can just let the highest damaging one to get all the farm while i use clone to basically make his character my own and makes it even a lot stronger than the original hero)

Suggestions:
Make the towers invulnerable until a certain time or a certain level is reached cause some people just straight up destroy them unknowingly or by trolling and making it lose the entire game because of one person, remove the invisible enemies, sometimes it can be laggy with tons of enemies while it also adds cause you don't know where to find them, if possible the corpses should not even spawn cause too much of it can contribute to lagging the game even further, make the tower revenant and magnataur stronger, maybe instead of runes spawning on the left bottom side where no one actually gets those, it could be a mini-game portal where you can get consumables/items that the people who already beat arena bosses can't go, the farming event should be even further and replacing the time that you're supposed to do that event a unique minigame that you can get stats, the towers beside the castle are deadweights on early and late game with no use other than to stall a few creeps and it's completely useless other than cosmetic purpose, but i suggest it should be 8 (1 for each lane) and giving one player control to 1 of the tower that they can upgrade to get certain buffs and debuffs to it that can make them actually worth to defend rather than being a tower just stealing golds from the heroes, making one of the towers player controlled can also benefit from the gold that the tower is gonna kill and be actually a bit helpful to the late game because of the buffs, make the map a bit larger cause the creeps are stacking too much sometimes and the narrow pathways of the waves filled with creeps can lag the game if not cleared properly, make the final boss invulnerable if the pillars at the final room is not destroyed

Take this with a grain of salt, i play X hero siege almost everyday and this is just my suggestions

 

[PapiSoDelicious]

Proof why clone and wand is OP ^

 

[Ricola3D]

Proof why clone and wand is OP ^

Lol are you insane ? Sooo many copies, you play player8 on your own xD

 

[InSaNe_97]

Finally! But it is a small update, barely anything. I really want more content and at least some balance changes.

 

[Ricola3D]

v1.43 fixes some desyncs due to Blizzard's bug with weapon upgrades that change damage dices guys

 

[Ricola3D]

Finally! But it is a small update, barely anything. I really want more content and at least some balance changes.

Yes I posted it because of the desync improvement, but it doesn't really have new content yet ^^
It took me hours and hours of testing with 2 computers to figure out those random desyncs.

Happy to see there are still players that enjoy X Hero Siege nowadays

 

[InSaNe_97]

Yes I posted it because of the desync improvement, but it doesn't really have new content yet ^^
It took me hours and hours of testing with 2 computers to figure out those random desyncs.

Happy to see there are still players that enjoy X Hero Siege nowadays

Man, of course people are enjoying it, Ic played this and DotA and Troll & Elves and a little of Green Circle TD, Castle Fight and even Vampirism and Melee all the time! Man, we were children, I miss them!

 

[Ricola3D]

Finally! But it is a small update, barely anything. I really want more content and at least some balance changes.

Also about the balances changes you wish, tell me more. What heroes to nerf ? What heroes to boost ?

 

[InSaNe_97]

Also about the balances changes you wish, tell me more. What heroes to nerf ? What heroes to boost ?

I would start with adding a few more ability levels and I personally would remove all scaling abilities, in the way that percentages stay the same, it only has one level, hero with evasion only has 40% evasion all the time, so it is not useless earlier and overpowered later, but since people want scaling even on these you make starting value a lot higher, and end value lower, if it would go 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 (for if ability has six levels, nonsense, why does not go up to 100 because that is what is going for, this is mildly disgusting?), now it is 30, 35, 40, 45, 50, 55, and make more ability levels so the non-scaling spells are still useful. Why am I telling this, are you this stupid to not know this?

 

[Ricola3D]

I would start with adding a few more ability levels and I personally would remove all scaling abilities, in the way that percentages stay the same, it only has one level, hero with evasion only has 40% evasion all the time, so it is not useless earlier and overpowered later, but since people want scaling even on these you make starting value a lot higher, and end value lower, if it would go 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 (for if ability has six levels, nonsense, why does not go up to 100 because that is what is going for, this is mildly disgusting?), now it is 30, 35, 40, 45, 50, 55, and make more ability levels so the non-scaling spells are still useful. Why am I telling this, are you this stupid to not know this?

Keep provocations for yourself one Hiveworkshop plz. Also can you be a bit more clear/specific about the non scaling spells you find useless in late game ?

 

[Nicks]

Why am I telling this, are you this stupid to not know this?

What's with the aggressive tone at the end? He doesn't owe you anything nor does he play this map 24/7 to know whats wrong or not with it. This map was not even his original idea in the first place, he just 'remastered' someone's else map to improve on the little things. If you want to adjust the map to your own likings and host with other players, you're free to do it at your own will.

 

[PapiSoDelicious]

Why am I telling this, are you this stupid to not know this?

As a developer, he can't really know if the mechanic he made is good unless we players like it and that's why he's asking for suggestions on how to balance the game.

 

[InSaNe_97]

Keep provocations for yourself one Hiveworkshop plz. Also can you be a bit more clear/specific about the non scaling spells you find useless in late game ?

I do not fully understand the first sentence. Can not remember, last time I played thine version was months ago.

What's with the aggressive tone at the end? He doesn't owe you anything nor does he play this map 24/7 to know whats wrong or not with it. This map was not even his original idea in the first place, he just 'remastered' someone's else map to improve on the little things. If you want to adjust the map to your own likings and host with other players, you're free to do it at your own will.

Nothing. It is not aggressive. Did you though it is? Because that is how I perceive your message.
I know, but there is obviousity.
I know.
I know.

As a developer, he can't really know if the mechanic he made is good unless we players like it and that's why he's asking for suggestions on how to balance the game.

Okay. He might be outside of his map so much.

 

[Satariel]

Hi,

sometimes people still tend to occasionally desync and would it possible to change the Tileset of the Map to something Greenish? I think green Grass just looks better than the Snow, played the Map so much by now a change like that would be nice

 

[Ricola3D]

Hi,

sometimes people still tend to occasionally desync and would it possible to change the Tileset of the Map to something Greenish? I think green Grass just looks better than the Snow, played the Map so much by now a change like that would be nice

F*ck.. Reforged really suxx with all those desycs..

About tileset, I'll keep the main as this for respect/fidelity to X Hero Siege 3.33, but I can release some side versions with different tileset

Currently I'm trying to add new heroes

 

[lichkiller45]

Hey,

so i played this map in singleplayer offline and the shield of invincibility from the spirit beast seems broken, the recoil dmg the enemies take is just huge. The bosses basically kill themself on my hero just by hitting me.

 

[jainaproudmore]

Have issue of this game. Why athas is killed so early during the cinematic of the battle of who killed Arthas and the ghost boss needs to be more buffed because somehow 1 of the player just instantly kill the final boss. Also issue about the command of -random because me and other players don't get potion, ankh at all, and 2nd hero is stuck at selection area instead teleporting where the 1st hero location is.. Also 1 thing, it would be nice if you can fix the hero because they are not facing Magtheridon and me and other players hero are just facing right.

 

[Satariel]

F*ck.. Reforged really suxx with all those desycs..

About tileset, I'll keep the main as this for respect/fidelity to X Hero Siege 3.33, but I can release some side versions with different tileset

Currently I'm trying to add new heroes

Ok nice because imho i think the Map on a green Tileset with maybe a few Trees placed around as well would make it look so much better and it would be something new as well, lot more visually pleasing and refresing. And while the original had Snow Tileset i think that shouldnt stop you from doing changes to that as well because it would be a big improvement

Maybe before each Match Host / Players can decide/vote on Tileset of the Map and it changes accordingly to Northrend/Snow, Lorderaron, Ashenvale, Barrens etc and when you have the Barrens Tileset the HQ changes to the Ork HQ and the Towers to Ork ones (Cannon Tower to this Boulder/Rock Tower from the Dranei/Orcs in Campaign) and Night Elf Stuff for Ashenvale and so on....might be an Idea if thats possible to implement.

Some other idea would be to make it more easy for Noobs who don't know about Hero Image+Furbolg, the Shops could offer some more early-game Items for Armour/HP/DMG to go for.

New Heros or existing ones you could change the Skin to some custom made ones, theres a lot cool looking ones

Maybe each Hero could get an additional Ability, would make them all more fun to play and some weaker heroes could get something to make them better

The Bosses need to be stronger at the end, from my experience the remaining people in the lobby all will have at least around 6.000+ Stats and the legendary Items with the Invul and the Bosses are just done in few seconds even with their gimmicks of mirror image or invul and the team can't even die anymore either with the invul shield item.

You could maybe use AI to add some voicelines for enemies like the pit lord boss

 

[Marchombre]

Hello,

First of all, I'm glad to see there are still people updating the mods I used to play back in the day.

I played a solo game in extreme 1 testing the new myrmidon hero and Tiny, and really enjoyed playing your version especially :

- thank you for fixing the xp loss when switching, it was such a pain to manage in old versions.
- the farming event feels way less stupid (in old versions, you either had -bt disabled, and stucked full gold, or -bt enabled, and ended with 50K-60K each stats). I feel like it could way more balanced bewteen spell caster and attack users, but I couldn't really test that.



However, I think the late game is kinda broken right now, let me explain:

- The bosses killed themselves

Due to the damage return from the shield. I found it quite suprising while fighting the blademaster, and ran around Illidan to make sure, and he killed itself, while I was barely taking any damage. Even more visible on Arthas, who two shoted himself with crits I didn't even have time to cast a spell or autoattack him. The final boss took a bit more time dying to the return damage, because he was taking time casting his spells, but I didn't use anything and he still died.

- Way too much gold / lumber

I think I entered the pitlord fight with ~8000 to each stats, which is quite nice if it weren't for the previous point.
I cleared the trap and used -bt and and proceeded to the blademaster.

and, oh my god, the blademaster made me RICH. I mean, I didn't pay attention to my gold / lumber during the fight, but I saw i capped in gold with something like 20 000 lumber to spend (sadly, I didn't record/screenshot the exact amount, but trust me, it was huge).

I ended needing more time to convert my lumber into gold and using -bt than the added time of all the bosses fights together (except the admiral, who has invulnerability). When I got to Arthas, I had a FEW more stats. Like 68 000 of each, with full legendary items.


- Arthas dies during the fight cinematic, way before it ends

I think it's because of the damage return again, which should probably be disabled during the cinematic



Thank you again for taking the time to update our favorite classic maps

And good luck trying to fix whats broken