Whats your opinion about DoTA?

[testplay]

Why this map still exist?

 

[Bob27]

I know. I hate DOTA as well. Unfortunaly Blizzard will do nothing though because if they ban DOTA or something like that they will loose ALOT of customers. And there are so many stolen versions I don't think that theres even an official version anymore.

 

[Assult_Sabre]

i find it as the most played game when im on b.net...kinda lame i think i prefer TD maps mostly.

 

[Ralle]

why don't the authors of DotA go and make their own realm? So all the cool people can play with eachother without all that DotA crap.. Or what about if someone made a filter to filter out DotA players and DotA games?

 

[Shados]

Seriously guys, I don't see your problem. If you don't like DOTA, then don't play it! I like it, but that's only because I never play pubbie games anymore. I only ever play private and lan games of DOTA, which is a very fun map if you don't have crap players.

 

[Archian]

how come you hate it?
i either hates it or loves it...

 

[Shados]

If I had mod powers I'd move this out of Weird Philosophies & Ideas and into one of the Warcraft III forums. *Hint Hint*

 

[Healingpoison]

DotA is a breach of B.net user agreement.
The user agreement states
Blizzard User Agreement: Do not use third party programs

BANLIST is a third party program.

BTW, I'm not sure what the excat wording of the BUA is, but its something like that i think.

 

[GST_Nemisis]

BANLIST is a third party program.

no its not, banlist is a list of bans..not a program, it doesnt edit the warcraft excutable. DotA is ok, but it is hard to break into for new people and hard to enjoy. its like having a constant bad day where you win then lose alot and wanna punch in the screen, then u try relaly hard to win just to make yourself feel better but when you win it sucks!!! i mean WTF^^!! but i like it

**Moo-veD**

 

[Darkdraak]

i dont like it, i played it back long time, it was imballanced like hell. lately someone convinced me to try it again, but you cant come in as a new player.

 

[Healingpoison]

no its not

People are relying on a third party source on wether to exclude people or not from their games.

 

[Malufa]

It does not break the BUA in the slightest.

My friends and I used to play it, but as was said earlier you need to play it privately. Maybe when I get back up and running on the net we can organize a game here and play it, that way you can enjoy yourself and not worry about stupid people (I hope).

 

[Bob27]

yea that would be good.

 

[GST_Nemisis]

no its not

People are relying on a third party source on wether to exclude people or not from their games.

yes but then you could say people are relying on a third party source (the hive) for maps. oh nos! now they shut us down? no, because a third party program would be something the changes or interacts with the warcraft executable in an unwanted manner, this mainly applies to cheats/hacks. plus banlist is based in the map on triggers right? well there are no "illegal" triggers so they are well within the limits of the BUA.

 

[Healingpoison]

well. I give up. Wanna know something scary?

You can wikipedia DotA and get this huge article on it.

 

[Assult_Sabre]

i dont like it, i played it back long time, it was imballanced like hell. lately someone convinced me to try it again, but you cant come in as a new player.

www.getdota.com :roll:

 

[Healingpoison]

they have a stable version and then most recent. Thats funny.

 

[Malufa]

Huh?

 

[GST_Nemisis]

there old version is better than the new release of DoTa, on this web site www.getdota.com

 

[brad.dude03]

personally, I hate dota, I couldn't dislike it more. It was on of the first games that I played on B.Net, only then because there was 8 of them being hosted at once and I wanted to see what the fuss was about, and I didn't like it. NOW, I dislike it even more because it's like spam, I don't want to play it, and I have to sift through all of them to get to a decent map that I actually want to play. Whoever had the idea about a dota filter, that would be great! It would save me having to go around all of them, as there is always so many of them being hosted at once. It isn't fair to the other players who don't enjoy dota, and it is a large inconvenience to those trying to find a specific map that isn't dota. I say, blizzard should just setup, or dedicate an existing realm to dota in it's entirety. Make it so that only official dotas can only be hosted on that server, and all of the other ones would be breaking the EULA in some way. It would keep the flood of ripoff dotas down, and it would keep all of the dota players away from the slightly more sane regular b.net players.

 

[Darkdraak]

Agrees

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

DotA rocks.

 

[teza89]

i just can't be bothered learning it's combos i don't mind it i just wish people wouldn't host so many games of it lol

 

[brad.dude03]

Well, I can't be arsed with the game in it's entirety.

 

[Peu]

o well... dota is litte cool after all... but what make i realy hate it is the huge amounts of rooms hosting it -.- ... nothing against playng it one time or another... but only playng that sucks

 

[ArcticInferno]

Actually. DotA is nice to play. It's just that IceFrog managed to rip off lots of stuff from mapping downloads and click it all together, and now it seems like an endless phemonenom, even i'm hooked! Let's just say DotA was Lucky. Someguy who said Blizz couldnt boot dota cos they would loose lots of customers. He's right. DotA fans are so mad nowadays.

Another funny and ridiculous fact : In the dota-allstars forums, theres some stuff saying whether dota should create a totally non affliated with warcraft 3, as an entirely new game just about dota. What a joke...Noobs dont know that all the stuff dota is using is under Blizz's Copyright. OMFG.

 

[operator]

I don't like DOTA at all

 

[ventuz]

And there are so many stolen versions I don't think that theres even an official version anymore.

I have never seen modified DotA. You only need to get latest "stable" and their newest from getdota.com, those 2, then play online. If a host using modified DotA, and player join game and see they are downloading. Then you know it's modified, leave. But that never happen to me before.

no its not, banlist is a list of bans..not a program, it doesnt edit the warcraft excutable.

It IS third party program, it links to WC3 rendering engine (Directx or OpenGL or whatever it's called) and modify render (to display text on top left corner). Same thing with maphack, maphack is third party program. Banlist is designed to auto kick for being on banlist or trying download, too bad it doesn't catch maphacker. Blizzard doesn't care what's happening and who's using what third party program over on custom games. They need to do something about it.

 

[Orc_Tamer]

If you hate DotA here's a link to a unprotected version of it
http://dimon.xgm.ru/opendota/

you can make gay versions of it with beutiful big floating text with the words "DotA sucks balls get a life homo stop flooding blizzards custom games" - like how I did lol

or you can just rip them off and make your own game.

 

[Ralle]

haha. Well. I totally accept that the map exists, I just think there should be a limit of 5 games of the same map in the gamelist. DotA totally overrules all small maps. In the old times DotA didn't exist, people played 1000s of differents maps they made by themselves. As it is now, people only plays map which have been worked 100,000 of hours on.

 

[The_Taxidermist]

I don't enjoy dota, and I agree wirh brad that sometimes it does feel a little like I'm being spammed

It had two things wrong with it, from my point of view;

Firstly, the combat was on a very small scale, about 4 unit spawns per path for each team. I prefer large amounts of units, carnage, mayhem, etc.

Secondly, perhaps more importantly, I noticed that once you gained an advantage it made your victory pretty much inevitable. I didn't see enough oppurtunities for the weaker player to turn things around, making the result of the game highly dependent on the opening 5 or so minutes.

Ralle makes a good point too, I think people are becoming less open minded towards new ideas. Dota doesn't help in that department either.

 

[ArcticInferno]

Orignially by Ventuz:
I have never seen modified DotA. You only need to get latest "stable" and their newest from getdota.com, those 2, then play online. If a host using modified DotA, and player join game and see they are downloading. Then you know it's modified, leave. But that never happen to me before.

Nope Ventuz. He means gayfag(pardon my language) Dotas that really are not fun, like DotA outland, DotA Dark Terror, and many other kinds of dota, not Allstars.

 

[DurotarLord]

Personnaly i dont get what the big deal about Dota is, both for hating it and loving it. Its not actually any good really; most of the hero abilitys are untriggered and any good ones that where are just ripped off www.wc3sear.ch anyways without credit being given. Its a mediocre game with so many whiners and noobs playing it its infuriating. It has horrible imbalance (in the last game i played i was killed in under 1 second while i had full health and was just walking along). The items are obscenely rigged and a player just needs to learn the best combo price wise to win.

Now that im done ragging on dota (ok so i have a lot more hate towards it but no reason to go on) i must say i dont get why people make a big deal of hating it. So what if its a popular map that takes popularity away from GOOD MAPS. its not Icefrog's fault. its just that since patch 1.17 or so (when Blizzard put the gay AMM in) all the good players quit wc3 leaving only the noobs. and the noobs have always been the ones that love dota (on acount of its unbalance, rigged items and it makes them feal cool to be able to kill someone in it) so if its anyones fault for why DOta is so popular over the last couple patches its Blizzards. But seariously, so what if dotas popular? good for Icefrog.

 

[The_wand_mirror]

I know. I hate DOTA as well. Unfortunaly Blizzard will do nothing though because if they ban DOTA or something like that they will loose ALOT of customers. And there are so many stolen versions I don't think that theres even an official version anymore.

Yay !!!!!! FELLOW DOTA HATERS

 

[W!†A_cRaft]

I don't enjoy dota, and I agree wirh brad that sometimes it does feel a little like I'm being spammed

It had two things wrong with it, from my point of view;

Firstly, the combat was on a very small scale, about 4 unit spawns per path for each team. I prefer large amounts of units, carnage, mayhem, etc.

Secondly, perhaps more importantly, I noticed that once you gained an advantage it made your victory pretty much inevitable. I didn't see enough oppurtunities for the weaker player to turn things around, making the result of the game highly dependent on the opening 5 or so minutes.

Ralle makes a good point too, I think people are becoming less open minded towards new ideas. Dota doesn't help in that department either.[/QUOTE]

Now I marked the things i dont agre with you in the text.

Firstly u are mad if you think there arent much creeps. Coz when all players reach lvl 25 and after playing for about 1 h on that lvl there are like 40 creeps coming into enemies bases.

Secondly 1 creep means a hell lot in DotA, and when I say hell lot i mean it.

And about advantages, well dont mean to ofend you but ur just crazy. A tincy-wincy thingy can change the tide of the battle. Even when you are 5 levels stronger the other player may defeat you. Otherwise strength heros would be the weakest heros in DotA not the Strongest (which they are, ok maybe some agility heroes are better). Coz strength heros are melee and are week on abilities + when they fight inteligence heroes they get beaten every time till they reach lvl 16 or so. All the difference is in the way of playing.

And once again i dont mean to offend you but I feel like I have enough expiriance to talk about DotA like this, coz before i got WoW I played DotA every day for like 5 hours or something. I was the best player in my school and the second best in my neigbourhood. My brother was better, that is he was more lucky. An my neigbourhood is allmost half of the towns population and it isnt a very small town has 200000 people

Now i dont play DotA anymore i got bored and started to have a norma life, going out more...

Green stuff is so totaly true

 

[Rui]

Intelligence heroes cannot turn the tables unless they are aided. DotA is about strength, and maybe Agility heroes. Intelligence heroes rock early game because most of high-damage spells which kill off low-HP trashes. However, once Reavers and Hearts of Tarrasque come to play, Intelligence Heroes are ggnored.

Conclusion: Yes, people lack new ideas, Soulchess and TM's Riddles were very good examples of new ideas. There are people over 40, maybe even 50 years old who come to Battle.Net SPECIFICALLY for playing DotA. People can play what they want regardless of their age, but come on, this is pathetic.

 

[W!†A_cRaft]

Well he said whe a hero gets advantages he cant be overcome, well inteligence heros have advatages at the begining, over the strength heroes that is why i posted that example. I know strength are the most powerful heroes later.

Or agility heroes if they use the Basher tactic coz when an agility hero like fletcher makes 3 bashers, boots of travel, hearth of tarasque and Butterfly it can be VERY hard beating him.

 

[Lunatechnick]

dota sucks, how much more simpler can it get? i will spell it out if you like

D - O - T - A S - U - C - K - S

when will anyone learn that?

 

[1)ark_NiTe]

I have an idea, I say the good mapmakers of the Hive get together to make a map that would blow DoTA out of the water, and would take over b.net because of it's pure awesomeness. But it would NOT be an AoS, just something that would catch everyone's attention, something that would be easy to learn, and something that would not be modded by thousands of little noobs. I know this is broad, but I'm sure we could think of something!

 

[FallenAngel-Flonne]

DotA is absolutely boring... never change, just creeps-tower-creeps-tower-creeps-tower-creeps-ancient
it's just nothing... i rather playing TD or RGP

 

[W!†A_cRaft]

The map u want is definintly not an arena, coz i know about 15 people from the about 50 of my friends that wont even see a map coz it has an arena in it's name.

Now it shouldnt be an AoS but it also shouldnt be a TD, better something like a mix of RPG ( I mean that it has a bit of a story, and some quests, maybe even the camera following ), but also an arena somewhere in the map, that grants big reward to whoever wins (like an item or lvl...) and maybe some place such as a battle ground where you can fight against the creeps to gain quick level or money (good at begining) (Lets say that the two forces are fighting for the control over the mine or something so you must drive the other teams creeps away so yours can take over the mine. So basicly at the begining they would play like AoS a bit later they will go explore the map doing quests and raiding instances, killing bosses... and at the end they will meet in the Arena of Honor, not the arena I first was talking about

(the [B]first one[/B] will be opened once every 30 mins and the outer door 
will close after 2 min so no more enteries. Than the inner door will open and 
whoever survives in the arena will be the only one to stay there and will get 
rewarded everyone else will get respawned at their starting point)

The Arena of Honor is always open but it requires lvl 20/25 to enter and there it would be a PvP till the players eyes bleed and fall out. So it is practicly to mesure who is the strongest player ...

Also i suggest a honor system to be imported, so wood will represent honor and for it you would be able to buy some fancy items good for PvP...
And the preventation of recepy buying would be done by population

THIS IS JUST MY IDEA OF THE MAP EVERYONE TRY SUGGESTING SOEMTHING

 

[Rui]

Hum, you people don't exactly get the point. You could create a famous map, but when people felt like playing an AoS, ggnore Hive's map, DotA for the win.

 

[W!†A_cRaft]

Well yea, practicly but imagian that the people wont play AoS maps coz they have something much better. Plus this map I suggested has both Arena, AoS and RPG in it.

 

[FallenAngel-Flonne]

Great... sounds better than dotA

 

[ArcticInferno]

I have an idea, I say the good mapmakers of the Hive get together to make a map that would blow DoTA out of the water, and would take over b.net because of it's pure awesomeness. But it would NOT be an AoS, just something that would catch everyone's attention, something that would be easy to learn, and something that would not be modded by thousands of little noobs. I know this is broad, but I'm sure we could think of something!

This may do, but firstly you have to make your map have the kick factor that every small thing makes a difference(e.g a single attack, a creep dead, a crep denied). variety and uniqueness with each hero, each got its own way to kill, balanced, and give players drive throughout the whole map.(DotA lacks this at late game, and becomes like any other ordinary AoS where you just right click and leave it to attack until the guy dies, and its not too important whether you die or not.)

 

[W!†A_cRaft]

This may do, but firstly you have to make your map have the kick factor that every small thing makes a difference(e.g a single attack, a creep dead, a crep denied). variety and uniqueness with each hero, each got its own way to kill, balanced, and give players drive throughout the whole map.(DotA lacks this at late game, and becomes like any other ordinary AoS where you just right click and leave it to attack until the guy dies, and its not too important whether you die or not.)

Man how much times have you played dota in your life when you got to 25 once or maybe half time?????

If you die at lvl 25 that means you could probobly lose the game.

 

[FallenAngel-Flonne]

just look at my thread on projects discussion forum to kick dotA's ass

 

[Rui]

At lvl 25 you have on advantage; the enemy can't level anymore, so that's one less problem with dying =P

 

[W!†A_cRaft]

At lvl 25 you have on advantage; the enemy can't level anymore, so that's one less problem with dying =P

But when you die at lvl 25 u have to wait 90 seconds to respawn and that is enough for an enemy to crush your base easily.

 

[Lunatechnick]

dota sucks, end of story!