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What would you change in your country?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by BlueSaint, Sep 24, 2016.

  1. Dr Super Good

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    I said he needs really rich people (millions of dollars and more), and really poor people (willing to work for 90c a day). For most people who do not fit into those categories (almost everyone in Europe) America does not want you unless you are a tourist and only spending money and not staying permanently.
     
  2. TheLordOfChaos201

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    There is nothing much wrong with my country.... so I would just try and maybe increase more intensive for small businesses since most of us here in the UK are lazy bastards.

    I was shocked when one of my friends revealed he doesn't share the same believes I have on making money.

    That you make money so that you can afford to make more money to eventually conquer and rule the world.

    He believes that you make money to build a career and earn just enough to live!!!!

    That was totally devastating, I felt like this....[​IMG]

    and going on an Macbeth trip

    "
    The raven himself is hoarse
    That croaks the fatal entrance of Duncan
    Under my battlements. Come, you spirits
    That tend on mortal thoughts, unsex me here,
    And fill me from the crown to the toe top-full
    Of direst cruelty. Make thick my blood.
    Stop up the access and passage to remorse,
    That no compunctious visitings of nature
    Shake my fell purpose, nor keep peace between
    The effect and it! Come to my man breasts,
    And take my milk for gall, you murd'ring ministers,
    Wherever in your sightless substances
    You wait on nature’s mischief. Come, thick night,
    And pall thee in the dunnest smoke of hell,
    That my keen knife see not the wound it makes,
    Nor heaven peep through the blanket of the dark
    To cry “Hold, hold!”
    "

    Or worst I felt suicidal "Is this a dagger which I see before me,
    The handle toward my hand? Come, let me clutch thee.
    I have thee not, and yet I see thee still.
    Art thou not, fatal vision, sensible
    To feeling as to sight? or art thou but
    A dagger of the mind, a false creation,
    Proceeding from the heat-oppressed brain?
    I see thee yet, in form as palpable
    As this which now I draw.
    Thou marshall'st me the way that I was going;
    And such an instrument I was to use.
    Mine eyes are made the fools o' the other senses,
    Or else worth all the rest; I see thee still,
    And on thy blade and dudgeon gouts of blood,
    Which was not so before. There's no such thing:
    It is the bloody business which informs
    Thus to mine eyes. Now o'er the one halfworld
    Nature seems dead, and wicked dreams abuse
    The curtain'd sleep"
     
  3. Zombie

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    DSG, you realize the U.S. federal minimum wage is $7,25 an hour, and Trump's been campaigning with promising a raise, don't you, mate? How the fuck is that even supposed to make sense?
     
  4. Lasersquid112

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    Good point.
     
  5. Dr Super Good

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    Only applies to certain types of employment. You must also remember that to cut corporate tax he will be raising private tax to make up the deficit so those people will be paying more of their income in tax, even if the minimum wage is raised. Also since cheap imports will not be allowed the cost of everything will raise (inflation) so that money per hour will get you far less than currently.
     
  6. TheLordOfChaos201

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    ha

    Glad I'm not American

    there is a prophesy about this from nostradomas

    when Obama was still campaigning they through it in his face but I think it fits more to Trump

    'in the twentieth millennium, the village idiot will rule over a nation of great power, and catastrophe will follow that will doom the whole world'

    You will have to Google it to find the proper text, but that's how I remember it.
     
  7. Zombie

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    What legally sanctioned "certain type of employment" pays 90 cents an hour in the United States, DSG? I love it that most of the time someone is trying to critique Trump, they make up stuff that only exists in their own dream world but never has been and never will be a factor in the U.S., or a part of Trump's campaign.

    Also, while some middle-class families may need to pay more tax (analysts expect them to be three-children families and single parent families, which yeah, sucks for like 8 million people), MOST middle-class families and low / high-income families will actually have to pay less tax (which means less tax for like what... 315 million people?)

    "Cheap imports will not be allowed"..... dude WHAT?

    Trump's planning to keep production and jobs in the U.S. and is planning to tax those companies which outsource production, he also may raise the import tax, but that doesn't fucking mean he'll ban "cheap imports." With lowered private / business tax and more jobs in the U.S., people will have more money to spend and will stimulate consumption of domestic goods (as well as foreign!), which in turn stimulates the revenue of domestic companies as well, which might expand and create more jobs, which in turn will provide more liquidity to the economy, and so on. More people will earn more and spend more, which will offset any inflation that may arise. Inflation is NOT a bad thing as long as it's under control, bro.

    Seriously DSG, I sometimes feel that you only try to argue in basically every thread to increase your post count.
     
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  8. Lasersquid112

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    Well, back to this. I am sorry to be one to inform you, but that is illegal, per Protocol V of the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons, Article II. They fall into the category of UXO (UnExploded Ordnance).
     
  9. Lasersquid112

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    Sorry, sweetcheeks, but things like the LaWS, ADS, PHASR, and EMG exist now. Energy weapons no longer exist only in sci-fi. ADAPTIV heat camouflage armor exists. Laser-guided sniper rounds. Hypersonic missiles, salt bombs, dirty bombs. ATLAS. The world isn't as safe as it used to be. For fuck's sake, Russia has orbit-hopper bombers and anti-satellite missiles that can intercept a NUCLEAR WARHEAD. Things are changing, DSG, and it will whether we like it or not. Warfare has evolved, and the Geneva Convention will damn likely need improvements before 2020.
     
  10. TheLordOfChaos201

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    the capped internet

    I feel like its a bit of a rip off some how, even though it's not
     
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    Haha, I was a bit surprised to learn that it's unusual to offer unlimited data plans. One thing I wouldn't change.
     
  12. Dr Super Good

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    That is what he is selling. Most economists say it will not work like that.

    If he taxes imports, all foreign goods become more expensive, such as a lot of the goods used by consumers in the USA. Even if not directly, it will increase the cost of manufacturing indirectly as forigen imports are involved in a lot of manufacturing supply chains. It will also mean USA exports crash because other countries will respond to these unfair tariffs by taxing goods from the USA so USA based companies will outsource production from the USA to regional factories outside the USA to get around this. Let us not forget that places like the EU and China might out right block all USA imports as they do not like being told what to do.

    Sure some people in the USA will earn more. A lot will not and instead they will have less buying power due to goods becoming more expensive. The reason manufacturing is being outsourced from the USA in the first place is that it is expensive to make goods in the USA. This need not have anything to do with cooperate tax, its just that costs of living in the USA are high so where as in India or Bangladesh you can hire 10 or 15 people, in the USA you can only hire 1 so need to spend 15 times as much on labour.

    In any case there will not be all those jobs he promised. Instead of having clothing manufactured at a plant in Bangladesh by 2,000 people, they will make the clothing in the USA in a fully automated plant employing just 10 people with 1,990 people still having no job in the USA. To combat the rise in manufacturing costs industries will look to automation. Even the automation industry will not employ that many people.

    He cannot even reopen the unprofitable coal mines with the subsidies one assumes he planned. The USA is still locked into the Paris climate agreement until at least 2020, so they cannot just leave without incurring the wrath of so many nations.

    So per capita military spending is part of unexploded ordnance? You are not making much sense...

    No country has the capability of shooting down the number of nuclear weapons either Russia or the USA own. Sure they can shoot down some, but we are literally talking thousands of missiles in the air, each traveling at well beyond super sonic speed.

    The USA does not need more nuclear missiles. It just needs to update/replace the ones it has as they are end of life anyway.

    The USA really does not need to spend as much on military as it does. If they cut it down a lot, but not enough that they lose their biggest military spending title, then they would have so much money to help the average person in America. Free health care, less tax, all that kind of thing for everyone living in the USA if they just cut their military spending by a fraction.

    The USA spends 600 billion dollars a year on defence. The second biggest spender, China, only spends equivalently 200 billion dollars, which is a third of the USA.

    To put it in perspective, the UK spends 120 billion pounds on the NHS which is free health care for 65 million people with a huge amount of inefficiency. If the USA was to drop all military spending they could give everyone on the street completely free healthcare, and this is not just Obama care it is care that means they pay 0 and keep all their current health care spending to spend on whatever they want. Even if they reduced their spending by half, the freed money could do so much for the people of the USA without affecting their ability to defend themselves at all as they would still be the biggest military spender.

    To put it in perspective, Russia spends 1/10th of the money the USA does on defence. The fact the USA even feels threatened by them is either them admitting how inefficient their defence is or that Russians just are so much better at defence than the USA.

    [​IMG]
     
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    You stated that the warheads from the 1970's were enough to keep other countries from fucking with us, but NOPE. As I said, they are banned from any and all use in warfare.


    Russia and America DO, as a matter of fact. These missiles, hypothetically, could be used to destroy massive amounts of land, rendering it uninhabitable for all, before people monitoring the nuclear launches could even give the order to retaliate.

    America does, as a matter of face, need more nuclear projectiles. Russia has missiles capable of doubling, maybe even tripling the speed of sound. They can nuke us from space. We need more nuclear projectiles to ensure that there is evidence of a strong enough counterattack to deem it more hazardous to their own citizens than to Americans.
    I honestly can't disagree too much there, but we do need to maintain our military spending. We have fallen behind, not only in the nuclear arms race, but in several others, too. Russia has made UCGV called the URAN-9. It can chew right through anything short of a damn tank's armor. What would be smarter would to employ Marvin Heemeyer tactics. The governor had pretty much 3 options: an AH-64 Apache attack helicopter equipped with a AGM-114 Hellfire missile, a two-man fire team equipped with a FGM-148 Javelin anti tank missile, or to wait. Explosives could not crack open his armored bulldozer, a foot of armor in some places.


    We do, as a matter of fact, need that 600 billion to be spent on defense, because, unlike China, which has shipping exports to practically everywhere, America wouldn't be missed by some.

    America can't simply DROP the fucking MILITARY! Are you insane?! The question should go unanswered, for fuck's sake! The military is too valuable. Without a single branch, we might manage. No military, AT ALL? You're fucking insane

    The disproportionality is because Russia spend the money more efficiently than America, and because it is 61 rubles and 27 kopeks to a single USD. Another thing applies:

    Offence is the best defense.
     
  14. Dr Super Good

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    Banned does not mean they cannot be used. There is a reason why the USA keeps them maintained...

    Yet you said...
    So either they cannot intercept them or they can...

    No, the USA just needs better nuclear missiles not more of them. The USA already has 3 times the number needed to completely destroy the planet. If they were to reduce their number by 2/3 but update them to the latest tech then they would be far more effective than multiplying the current number by 3.

    The USA has only itself to blame. If a country with under a tenth of its spending can threaten them they are doing something seriously wrong. Russia only spends slightly more than the UK on defence and the UK barely has any military capabilities anymore.

    The USA makes tons of state of the art aerial drones which are capable of delivering precision strikes with minimal and stealth like profile. They are even looking into intelligent drones which do all the targeting themselves (no human operator).

    You are underestimating military technology. No amount of armor is safe. The USA, UK and such countries possess cruise missiles that can penetrate several meters of concrete.

    Even if it is halved, no one will still be able to invade.

    I was putting the spending in perspective. As the graph shows the military spending is "fucking insane".

    The graph assumes dollar values spent. It is the USAs problem if they are inefficient.
     
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    Bring back tariffs and let that finance your NHS, wouldn't that make both sides happy?

    You get free healthcare for all, and he gets protectionism, win-win, and no need to throw aside imperial-i mean- defence ambition. Yay? :)
     
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    @Dr Super Good I just can't even deal with this shit rn. Some of the shit you're saying.... I honestly can not fathom that a sane, rational human being can believe what you do. Some of your questions should go unanswered.
    Are you serious with this utter bullshit?! A fucking cruise missile. Launched at a zone with friendly soldiers in it. You really don't know what you're talking about, do you...?
     
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    Make killing legal, Also, each time someone kills someone they get one million dollar to their bank account. Gotta make things intresting - just like zombie appocalyps...
     
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    That too. :D
     
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    oh I would get rid of the silly laws that protect criminals

    if someone breaks into my house I should be allowed to turn them into my own person slave and exercise my right to try every experiment torture on them that I desire

    At the moment, legally you are only allowed to use the same level of threat that the thief uses on you. If they present a knife you aren't allowed to use your gun because legally the court can argue that the thief had little or no chance of killing you with the knife, therefore you murdered him and you can make no claim of self defence.

    That is screwed up, but there is one positive to it. It means legally you are allowed to therefore steal from your thief and the courts can't do a damn thing about it. If they break into your house and instead of killing them you follow them home and steal everything they own, legally (if the cops don't arrest you first) you can load up all their possessions in a van and keep/sell it and the courts can't charge you for theft.

    This has been demonstrated in cases where people were mugged here in the UK, and the mugger became the victim. What happened is a mugger attacked someone, but the victim of the attack over powered them and stole the thief's wallet. How is that for ironic revenge?
     
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