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What champion would you like to see next?

Discussion in 'Heroes of the Storm' started by Razosh, May 22, 2015.

  1. Dr Super Good

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    This is a common miss-conception with warriors. Warriors have nothing to do with health or ability to take damage or deal damage, but rather their overall team roll.

    Azmodan for example has more health than most non-buffed warriors and is a Specialist. He also has a lot of the damage mitigation talents that one would expect on Warriors.

    Sonya is a Warrior but is capable of Siege damage on-par or better than many Specialists (WoTB + Hammer build). She is also very squishy for a Warrior having less health than Li Li (a Support).

    A ranged warrior would work but it would require careful design. Imperius would likely have less health than Tyrael but instead deal more damage to compensate as well as some very powerful abilities with higher cooldown.
     
  2. Razosh

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    Sonya does have a tank build though it's based around life steal rather than a huge pool of health. But you have a point, although it might not be "traditional" it's not illogical to have a ranged or semi-ranged warrior.
     
  3. Keiji

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    They're not called "champions".

    Yeah and no, but mostly yes. This is more, I'd say, a testament to Blizzard's attitude
    toward letting themselves be locked down by a "class", they still make the heroes like
    they want to make them, and then have some classes to organize things.

    From my experience, Warriors are either initiators or pealers most of the time in
    Heroes of the Storm, so yeah, it's more about their role in a team, like you said,
    than their overall roll on the battlefield. Then again, that goes for all heroes in the
    game, it is a team-based game.

    The next hero I'd like to see is Kel'Thuzad, preferably the lich version.
    Or any troll, really. (Rokhan, Vol'Jin, Zul'Jin).

    But in regards to the next budle-package-thing "Eternal Conflict", where we get the
    Butcher first, I'd like to see more angels. And preferably Malthael or Imperius.
     
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    Eh, we need Diablo Supports, so Deckard Cain? I also like to see Sicco Thermaplugg somehow aand Mephisto. And Harrison Jones and MILLHOUSE MANASTORM! Also Hemet Nesingwary, Hogger, Lorewalker Cho and possibly Maiev. Also, the Wizard, Monk, Baal and Azmodan.
     
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    What's all this bullshit about Deckard Cain? If I'm not mistaken, he has no combat
    training, no magical powers and is an old man with a walking stick. He's a lore-writer,
    one we love and adore, but nothing more. I just don't see him as a hero to brawl with
    characters like Lich King, Kerrigan and Diablo.

    Now Cho, on the other hand, he could be interesting. Sure he's also a lore-writer, but
    he's more vested in warfare than I think Cain is, or at least, I can more readily see
    him back his allies as a support/specialist more so than the man with the long beard.
    I'm just awfully intrigued by the thought of what Blizzard could come up with for such
    a vibrant character as Lorewalker Cho.

    And Hogger. I just don't see them not adding Hogger at a certain point in time. Like
    Murky, he's far too vested in the Blizzard community to not get an appearance.
     
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    And Li-li is a master sorceress on par with the Lich King, Kerrigan and Diablo? I don't know if you've read the short stories about her. :D
     
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    I'm not saying every hero is logically mixed into the nexus, I'm just saying that I really don't
    see how Deckard Cain could be a playable hero like that.
     
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    Why is abuthur in then? He basically has no combat capability personally as well!

    Cain would be an excellent support hero. Sacrifice almost all combat capabilities to buff and heal the team.
     
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    Well atleast Abathur looks cooler.

    E: And Abathur has some zerg-ish abilities. But none of those can match Deckard's ultimate ability that brings doom to everybody, "Stay awhile and listen"
     
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    You never see Abathur directly in combat anyway, he's assisting his team with shield and things like attack speed boost.

    He is a zerg.

    Cairn, doom to everyone? Doesn't fit him, he's a storyteller. There's no hero potential in him.
    I still really wanna see Maiev in this game.
     
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    Not true. Without him the heroes in both Diablo II and Diablo III would be lost. His knowledge is invaluable and his death in Diablo III was key to what occurred (he would have probably warned against some of the actions you took).


    For Cain's hero design I would imagine something weak by himself but fiendishly annoying (to the point people could start to cry).

    Unravel: Using his Horodric knowledge warns the team about the target hero and his/her/its weaknesses. Applies 50% weakness to the target for 30 seconds and maybe reveals them.
    Stay a while and listen: Channeled 5 second stun of target enemy hero. Channeled 3 second stun on allies that restores a large amount of both health and mana. Cain is invulnerable and unstoppable during the channel.
    Identify Item: Target an allied hero to give them 5% more damage and 5% more health for 2 minutes. This can stack on the heroes multiple times.

    Ultimates
    Horodric Cube: Mark an allied hero and an enemy hero. When used the allied and enemy heroes swap control for 20 seconds while retaining relative life percentage amounts. The enemy hero gets a 20% damage penalty from the swap and the allied hero gets a 20% damage bonus. Neither heroes are able to use their ultimate ability during this time but all basic abilities start off cooled down.
    Help Me (passive): Leah enters the battle field to help protect Cain. She deals ranged attack damage and acts as an EXP collector. Although she can be damaged she cannot be killed as fatal damage merely incapacitates her (with no EXP award) until no enemy heroes are nearby or 30 seconds pass (she gets recalled to Cain then). Additionally Cain is invulnerable (or 50% damage reduction from all sources) when near her and she is not incapacitated.

    Trait
    Old Man Walking: Cain will not be automatically acquired by non-heroic sources unless he attacks them.
     
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    That should have been a heroic!
     
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    That would make it nowhere near annoying enough.
     
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    And it will give aan awesome but unskippable cinematics to enemies and a talent that will make it more longer XD
     
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    I think Sargeras can defeat both Diablo and Mathael.
     
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    Sargeras might crush his own core.
     
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    That is if he was not scaled down to only slightly larger than Azmodan due to SC2 scaling logic. He would also probably struggle against Li Li due to being assigned some silly role like Support.
     
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    Don't hate the SC2 scaling logic :) Without it Starcraft's melee games would be a total chaos.
     
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    I believe my arguments have been stated by the others.
    But yeah, basically, because he's awesome and because
    he's basically a commander unit anyway, so it makes
    sense... Sort of.

    Granted, though, the ideas presented for Cain's spells sounds interesting,
    to say the least ;)
     
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    Also he's a horadrim, so he may have some powers or whatnot.

    I would like to see Tracer with 5 charges of blink and some moe abilities and Winston's trait would be Rae when hereaches 20% health. Of course after Overwatch is released.

    Also Leah with normal DH like aabilities but her Heroic is a passive, when she dies she transforms into Diablo for 5seconds or if there is a Diablo in your team, transform for 15 seconds