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Reforged Warcraft III Reforged - Community Feedback

Discussion in 'Patch & Reforged Discussion' started by Archian, Nov 4, 2018.

  1. Napoqe

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    I wish new campaigns to play. As Lord of Clan made by the community, and others who have association with Warcraft lore. All translated into Brazilian Portuguese and other languages.

    Add similiar Dota 2 system called Localization. What makes available support to map more than one language.
     
  2. loktar

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    Would be super cool if Blizzard set up some system to reward the best campaigns with free voice acting ^_^ Especially Warcraft lore campaigns.
     
  3. tulee

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    There has been much mention about portraits for ingame play, but there has not been mention of portraits in cinematics. While they will probably add the portraits for in game play since it would be hard to identify units otherwise, they might feel that portraits for cinematic might be unnecessary since the level of detail for the models is so high that they might think it won't be necessary seeing the face again in the bottom left corner (and this is a fair point). I just think that doing this would affect custom campaigns, since without voice acting, if there is no portrait during cinematic scenes it would be very difficult to know who is "speaking".
     
  4. deepstrasz

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    Don't worry. The UI will be manageable which means they modify it specifically for the Reforged version of the campaigns. That doesn't apply to other maps unless you yourself will modulate the UI.
     
  5. NearbyHermit

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    This exact thing. I always enjoyed the in-game cinematics for their comic book-like feel.

    Blizzard really stepped up the RTS game when they introduced the portrait model. It helped develop a sense of closeness to your character.
     
  6. loktar

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    Yeah, I'm not a fan of the current static unit portrait. I always loved the animated portraits, aside from what @NearbyHermit said, I also think it makes the game feel more alive, also in non-story maps (like melee).
     
  7. deepstrasz

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    Work in progress, people...
     
  8. Dr. Benevolent Guy

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    guys im really scared. Blizzard Stock is going downhill each and evry day pass by since Diablo Immortal hope this wont continue if it wont they might call off or cancel reforged and declaire bankrupt How sad.
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  9. Sieben

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    I don't know much about financial markets, but if Blizzard stock is going down because of Diablo Immortal, I suppose Diablo Immortal might get called off, not Reforged. Reforged announcement had a very enthusiastic reception, so why cancelling it?
    Anyway, this is just speculation, we can't really tell right now what's gonna happen.
     
  10. loktar

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    Seems like it's a design decision and not just some sort of placeholder though...
     
  11. NearbyHermit

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    Never have I ever imagined hearing Blizzard and bankruptcy in the same sentence. Wow!

    I guess that's what happens when, for the last years, they've been putting out only shadows of their flagship titles. David Brevik was right, it was truly the people that made Blizzard great.

    So, this begs the question. What will Blizzard do next? Stick to their roots or continue with that game that no one asked for.

    [​IMG]
     
  12. deepstrasz

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    Don't worry. They're experimenting. They're good.
     
  13. NearbyHermit

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    I haven't bought a Blizzard product since 2012, when Diablo 3 released. A game which, mind you, I regret buying to this day.

    I'm happy for them, that they're exploring new markets and demographics, but that doesn't do me any good. The Blizzard games that I like were made a decade ago. This experimentation on their part doesn't give me any hope for the future, since it seems that they don't intend to make games for consumers like me anymore.

    (Classic games are excluded from this conversation)
     
  14. Dr. Benevolent Guy

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    From what i am thinking i think it is Activision's fault that Blizzard is sloping down the graph in stocks. I don' think the merging was a very good idea in the first place. It only ruined instead of helping.
     
  15. Whisper

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    QFT.
    Last game I bought from Blizzard was Overwatch (imo best blizzard's game today). I bought also SC2. Mostly for single campaign and editor. Campaign storyline was bad.. and boring. Editor was not user-friendly. Modding community was also pretty much dead.
    I wanted to buy D3. Hopefully they released demo... Imho graphics were 2eyecandy... story was meh... so i didn't buy D3.
    Now I wait for Reforged.
     
  16. deepstrasz

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    That or they just have to follow trends to survive. I don't like it either especially since they shoved microtransactions in but Immortal... it's even worse.
    In what sense? Gameplay, story (isn't it just an online shooter?)? I think you can't compare RTS with shooters and Hack and Slash games...
     
  17. Razorclaw_X

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    I suggest you don't offer stock advice on things you don't understand. It has nothing to do with Diablo Immortal.

    The official word is the under-performance of Call of Duty which is what made the news a couple weeks ago.
     
  18. Wareditor

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    The stock isn't falling only because of Diablo Immortal, but mostly because of bad financial results. The stock was overpriced basically and this is a correction.
    Reforged isn't at risk at all since there is no reason to scrap it and (speculation) their budget is already so low they needed to hire a Malaysian company to make the art assets.
     
  19. Dr. Benevolent Guy

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    that's a relief. Thanks.
     
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    Hi, I'm an RTS veteran and as a fan of WC3 and WarCraft in general, I'm excited about this game.

    I have a few suggestions and some feedback for Reforged. Here goes.

    - Re-do all the original cinematics. The original ROC cinematics show their age badly (TFT's are acceptable). I would even make the final Arthas vs Illidan cutscene into an actual cinematic, as was originally intended with TFT.
    - You can remaster the soundtrack with more a modern WoWish sound, as long as the original tracks stay faithful and very similar to the original ones, and as long as you also give us the option to choose between the original or reforged soundtrack.
    - Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I love the new art style, it looks amazing! My only real icks on this side are, maybe the Ghoul (hard to recognize as a Ghoul...Perhaps give us one that looks more like the original, with the current one being an alternate, sort of like the Dark Templar has 2 variants in SC2?), the Footman's shield (rest of the Footman looks great, though) and the Scout Tower (It's too small). Maybe the walls on the Human Town Hall could also be straight and angled, instead of round. But that's really a minor thing that I don't mind going either way.
    - The new UI is interesting, but please also let us use the original one as an option/alternative, or at least a SC2-like variant of the original.
    - The 16-unit selection limit should either be done away with, or at least we should have the option to remove it in custom maps and mods, as well as disable in custom games (there's enough place on the side bar that allows us to disable the fog of war, etc.). Maybe leave it in for ladder/ranked/tournament play. Or, alternatively, make a second ladder for a more modern game mode, one that will include potential new units, new races, new game mechanics and QOL changes like unlimited selection, multiple building selection, etc.
    - Please release a physical CE of the game. I will buy it faster than you can say "Physical Release". Might even buy 4 if you make one for each race. ;)
    - Naga, Blood Elves and Burning Legion should all be new races that are added after release. Naga have the best potential, as they are already partially implemented into the TFT expansion already. Burning Legion, based on WoW: Legion could make an interesting and original faction, playing similarly to the Protoss in SC2 (Warp-In, Pylons) or the Eldar in WH40K: DoW3 (teleporting structures). There are a few mods out there that do this, one even actually has a full Naga and Blood Elf race (mod is called "WarCraft III: Nirvana" and you can select the new races in the race selection menu before starting a game, and they all have custom art, custom UIs and music, as well. Links included at the end of this post.
    - If you decide to add Blood Elves as well, you could also recycle their buildings and units for the High Elves. The Blood Elves would be playable in the FT expansion, while the High Elves would only be an unplayable enemy race in the campaign (notably in the Undead campaign), that's a variation of the Blood Elves.
    - Integrate additional hero selection and race selection into the race selection dropdown menu when making a custom game. I talked to the UI lead for WC3 Reforged at BlizzCon and he said this should be easily possible. A mod called WarCraft III: Nirvana already does it. The Executable file for the mod reads an altered storm.dll (I think that's the dll file involved) file when it starts up. This dll file contains a list of all races in the game that can be selected and played, with the filenames of their UI, Music and Town Hall and Worker units, so that it knows what to start you with once it loads the specific race. As the file is modified to add 2 new races, it gives you the new listed races in selection screen. This could also be used to pre-select heroes on MOBA maps. For example, an altered dll file would be added into the map or mod file, and the game would read that variant upon clicking on the custom map. War3 already pre-loads certain map data when clicking on a custom map in the map selection screen, so it could easily be programmed to read the dll file inside the map file (maps are MPQ files in War3 that contain other files inside as well) and load 2 new races in the dropdown race selection bar/menu. The UI developer and I talked and he figured out how he could make it work. This way, we can have custom races - would be pretty epic, especially since War3's community has had many custom races! Only thing is most of those do not modify the executable or dll file, so they have to program a trigger at the start of the match to let you select a custom race and even then, you won't have custom UI and music for the specific race. This could change that and it's already been done with Nirvana and it's been proven to work.

    Links for War3 mods and custom races:
    Nirvana:
    WarCraft III: Nirvana - Release 1.0 file

    Naga Race in Nirvana:
    https://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/23/22711/WC3ScrnShot_043013_051326_05.jpg

    Blood Elf race in Nirvana:
    https://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/23/22711/WC3ScrnShot_012014_003346_04.jpg

    Beyond the Throne, Naga:
    Naga Base image - Beyond the Throne mod for Warcraft III: Frozen Throne
    Naga Base image - Beyond the Throne mod for Warcraft III: Frozen Throne

    Beyond the Throne:
    Beyond the Throne mod

    WOW Armageddon mod for WC3 (Naga included):
    Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne GAME MOD WOW Armagedon v.3 - download

    Nirvana HD mod:
    Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne GAME MOD Warcraft III Mod: Nirvana v.0.11 - download
    Image 1 - Warcraft III Mod: Nirvana for Warcraft III: Frozen Throne
    Warcraft III Mod: Nirvana v0.11 EN file

    Curse of the Forsaken Custom Campaign and Forsaken Custom Race:
    Curse of the Forsaken v3.0

    Rise of the Blood Elves Custom Campaign and Blood Elf Custom Race:
    Rise of the Blood Elves v3.0

    The Blood Elves Return:
    The Blood Elves Return v1.2 beta

    Many other custom races (Obviously, under the "Resources" section of each profile):
    Sunreaver
    Unregret
    Wa666r
    Footman16

    I fully recommend all of wa666r's races: Illidari, Dalaran, Nightborne, Lost Ones, Faceless Ones, High Elves, Fel Horde, Worgen, Forsaken, Felblood Elves, Exodar and Lightforged Draenei. They're all really amazingly well-done.