Warcraft II: Reforged v1.29.4 Garden of War - Altered Melee

[antontama]

Can someone help me with Players: 2 'Hive Map Contents' description? The map has its 8 players setup, but hive keep telling me it's only for 2, why?

 

[tulee]

Because there are only two "units" in your map picture:

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If you add 6 more units into the picture, the hive description will auto update to 8.

 

[antontama]

Because there are only two "units" in your map picture:

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If you add 6 more units into the picture, the hive description will auto update to 8.

Looks like you're talking about cover image, but what kind of neural network recognition hiveworkshop use to mark it as a 'two units on that image'? If we're talking about minimap thingy - it was autocreated, it wasn't me who placed only 2 player start locations at that image. I'm confused as hell. Please clarify.

And btw, an advice of how can you hide cover-art from 'Previews' section would be also very nice to receive.

 

[AbsolutePsycho]

If we're talking about minimap thingy - it was autocreated, it wasn't me who placed only 2 player start locations at that image. I'm confused as hell. Please clarify.

Yes, this is definitely related to the reason why it's recognized as 2-player map.

For example, the same thing happened here (compare the minimaps for two attached files).
I would guess it's Hive reading the new map format wrong.

And btw, an advice of how can you hide cover-art from 'Previews' section would be also very nice to receive.

Pastebin?

 

[darkravenbest]

Where this custom models came from? Was they in the game or you they were created for the custom in the short period of time?

 

[antontama]

Where this custom models came from? Was they in the game or you they were created for the custom in the short period of time?

There is not a single custom model. That's the point of making that map with some kind of 'personal challenge'. Everything you see is OG Blizzard/Lemonsky assets.

 

[antontama]

Yes, this is definitely related to the reason why it's recognized as 2-player map.

For example, the same thing happened here (compare the minimaps for two attached files).
I would guess it's Hive reading the new map format wrong.


Pastebin?

Well okay then, I guess I'm just going to wait till hw fixes itself. I think.

https://www.hiveworkshop.com/pastebin/create Sorry, what?

 

[AbsolutePsycho]

https://www.hiveworkshop.com/pastebin/create Sorry, what?

You can upload images there, and insert img-links here. If I remember correctly, that way previews will not be created.

 

[darkravenbest]

There is not a single custom model. That's the point of making that map with some kind of 'personal challenge'. Everything you see is OG Blizzard/Lemonsky assets.

So all WC2 models was integrated into the game? Interesting. For what reason i wonder.

 

[antontama]

So all WC2 models was integrated into the game? Interesting. For what reason i wonder.

Personally, I think there were people that started with old wc2 abilities and units from the beginning of the developing of Warcraft 3(as a part of rpg like Warcraft universe mix of tactics and strategy). Also, as they were need some props for Medivh's memories, that Blizzard even quotes in their trailers and demos, considering latest playwarcraft3.com changes.

So the main reason is basically this, time 1:26:

 

[darkravenbest]

Personally, I think there were people that started with old wc2 abilities and units from the beginning of the developing of Warcraft 3(as a part of rpg like Warcraft universe mix of tactics and strategy). Also, as they were need some props for Medivh's memories, that Blizzard even quotes in their trailers and demos, considering latest playwarcraft3.com changes.

So the main reason is basically this, time 1:26:

Thats funny, because in that scene we can see a Frozen Throne Demolisher, instead of wc2 styled catapult which can be seen in your map. They didnt even fully used them.

 

[antontama]

Btw, forum, I'm looking for the way to make 4K loading screen and square 'selection circles´, is there're any guides on that? inb4 SD guides with lowres assets limits at it.

 

[AbsolutePsycho]

I'm looking for the way to make 4K loading screen

High Resolution Loading Screens

square 'selection circles´

ReplaceableTextures\Selection\SelectionCircleSmall.blp
ReplaceableTextures\Selection\SelectionCircleMed.blp
ReplaceableTextures\Selection\SelectionCircleLarge.blp
Use BLP Lab to convert those to tga (or something) and edit them in Photoshop.
Or just use this: Selection Circles v1.50

 

[antontama]

High Resolution Loading Screens


ReplaceableTextures\Selection\SelectionCircleSmall.blp
ReplaceableTextures\Selection\SelectionCircleMed.blp
ReplaceableTextures\Selection\SelectionCircleLarge.blp
Use BLP Lab to convert those to tga (or something) and edit them in Photoshop.
Or just use this: Selection Circles v1.50

EDIT: Made my own for Reforged.

Oh, thank you! But have you used SC v1.50 square sprites by yourself? I tried as a first measure to prove the concept, but it was not as sharp and clean as you would've expect from a 4K res game, so I'll try to make my own.

 

[antontama]

Forum, please review.
I think it looks cool and plays fun, so wish you luck with that. I'm working on minor bugs and improvements, overall it looks polished.

v1.13 Update

• Starting resources setting changed from 'default Taiga_BNE.pud' to players vote at the start for:
  • High
  • Medium
  • Low
• Fixed workers starting spawn location, so Goldmines can be seen at the start of the game
• Added Elven Lumber Mill model

 

[antontama]

v1.13 Update

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  • Starting resources setting changed from 'default Taiga_BNE.pud' to players vote at the start for:
    • High
    • Medium
    • Low
  • Fixed workers starting spawn location, so Goldmines can be seen at the start of the game
  • Added Elven Lumber Mill model

v1.14c Update

• Custom Loading Screen
• Warcraft II themed human&orc cursor (1.14c)
• Added Temple of the Damned model

 

[Shar Dundred]

Map appears to be functional & doesn't break any rules.
Approved.

 

[antontama]

Map appears to be functional & doesn't break any rules.
Approved.

THANK YOU! I've been waiting for a long time for this. Glad to see it among approved workings.

v1.15 Update

• Added Altar of Storms model
• Added Orc Tower model
• Added Goblin Alchemist model
• Added Troll Lumber Mill model

Forum, please rate it!

 

[kill]

 

[antontama]

Thanks for rating, and thanks for the sub

 

[antontama]

Hey, forum! Is there a common knowledge how to fix standart "Blizzard spell damage not stacking" issue? I mean every wave buildings and units get damage only from the single shard, even f they are exposed to multiple shard hits... I'm out of ideas, trying different ways brought me no fruits Please, help!

 

[deepstrasz]

Hey, forum! Is there a common knowledge how to fix standart "Blizzard spell damage not stacking" issue? I mean every wave buildings and units get damage only from the single shard, even f they are exposed to multiple shard hits... I'm out of ideas, trying different ways brought me no fruits Please, help!

Try asking here
World Editor Help Zone

 

[antontama]

Try asking here
World Editor Help Zone

Thank your for your answer, I'll definately leave a messages there. +rep

 

[micca]

Will you be doing custom UI that will look like in wc2? That would be awesome to see.

 

[antontama]

Will you be doing custom UI that will look like in wc2? That would be awesome to see.

If Blizzard will give us a chance to place an interactive elements into the so called 'dead zone', then - sure! (and afaik, there is a chance, because last patch gives us a glimpse of what can be coming features)

 

[micca]

I didn't know there was a "dead zone" I thought it was already possible since 1.31. I hope they will add it soon them.

 

[Tamplier]

great work man. WIll watch your progress!

 

[SantaBla]

I try to host your map every now and then. Will you be adding the voices yet? These are missing for the authentic wc2 experience.

 

[antontama]

I try to host your map every now and then. Will you be adding the voices yet? These are missing for the authentic wc2 experience.

Don't you have crahshes @SantaBla ?

 

[SantaBla]

Don't you have crahshes @SantaBla ?

Not yet.

Your discord is rather dead. I was hoping to find some people to play the map with.

 

[antontama]

Your discord is rather dead. I was hoping to find some people to play the map with.

Yes, unfortunately so... I hope the day will come and people will play this on a daily basis, but got no luck with that yet. Thanks for joining in though.

 

[Null]

THE EYE OF KILLROG IS STILL A WATER ELEMENTAL SUMMONED UNIT!!!

 

[antontama]

THE EYE OF KILLROG IS STILL A WATER ELEMENTAL SUMMONED UNIT!!!

You mean, you want it to die because of hp loosing, not duration bar?


Edit: ah, got it, it's thr name of summoned unit progress bar is what bothered you

 

[MrAxeTv]

Wait how do you install this ?

 

[antontama]

Wait how do you install this ?

1. Buy (and don't refund) Warcraft III: Reforged (map using new assets, that will appear blank if you play it on classic Warcraft 3:TFT)
2. Download .w3m file
3. Place .w3m file in '\Users\USERNAME\Documents\Warcraft III\Maps' folder
4. Launch game -> Go to
   1. Multiplayer with friends: Custom Game -> Create Button
   2. Singleplayer pepes: Single player -> Custom Game -> Create Button
5. Find it amongst 8 player maps right at the first list opened (no need to open folders if you saved it right in the 'Maps')

via DISCORD channel sub #faq

 

[SebioL]

Very good, nostalgic map, I recommend! Very nice ambience editing. With old audios it would be even better! Unfortunately you kept it protected from edits.
The good thing about playing Wc2 are the large armies, the ideal would be to play on a larger map, put Food to 300 and increase the number of units used within the AI, in addition to making some additional adjustments to the AI... it seems they are advancing towards very rapid attacks on the enemy base, using only a few initial units, it remember even Wc3.
You can update the cover photos for the map. Footman is already different and the used model on the map is very similar to Wc2. Congrats.

 

[Kevin Frost]

This is so amazing! I'll definitely be letting my friends know about this!

 

[Mr Hawk]

Hey how did you get the Warcraft 2 Reforged Human Farm Buildings Orc Ones, and etc from?

 

[Taylor Mouse]

Time to go for Warcraft I Reforged

 

[Lurker99]

How goes the SD/classic version?

 

[Barade]

Great map map, some suggestions:

• Add unit soundsets and fighting sounds from Warcraft 2!
• In the beginning there is a spelling mistake with "Players".
• Scrolling down with the camera behaves weirdly.
• I had the feeling the map was lagging a bit.
• If I have the Orc interface, I can still choose human but my interface does not change. Maybe not possible in Warcraft.
• Why not show the exact production value somewhere?
• Guard Towers have no attack icon, I cannot target a specific unit? Same for rally point flags etc. I guess you did this because it is closer to Warcraft II.
• Some upgrade icons look still like Warcraft III. I don't know how they look in Warcraft II.
• Units get stuck really often especially in the late game. AI builds its buildings, so their units cannot leave their base anymore and my allied AI got stuck between the trees. Maybe it is small like that in Warcraft 2 but maybe adapt it a bit for Warcraft III. The AI that got stuck was Orc in the top left.

 

[Matythecrow]

Would it be possible to share the wizard's tower model?

 

[VendaV]

Interesting concept ... something is just like the original, something is not at all.

 

[JCarrill0]

Well done.
I played a few rounds myself and loved the graphics.
I love that i can finally play Warcraft 2 Melee match on war3.

I cant wait to play the actual Campaigns from CSW, but this is definitely something to enjoy while we all wait for it to come out!

 

[antontama]

Updated the map.
Changelist, new screenshots, etc. will follow soon.

Went back to original blizzard assets just to streamline the gameplay process.

When everything will be set and CotsW team won't mind I'll add their assets back, but for now I want to focus on gameplay

 

[antontama]

Forum, please take a look at A.I. behavior at & spawn points (single player - custom games - map options - full observer mode) any one stumbled with this? Thanks in advance.

 

[antontama]

Hey, Hiveworkshop!

1.29 is here.

We're finally getting to play with proper fireball and air units attacks.

Not much playtests were made, but I'm aiming at 1.30 being a polished and competitive release.

Please host it with A.I. and friends to see if it even works multiplayer after all those changes I've managed to deliver in a couple of weeks.

Main insight of the experience working on this map would be:

Spoiler: Personal opinion

Art direction and technical implementation of the Reforged assets isn't that bad. Warcraft III default camera desperately needed a visit from Game Design folks. As simple as reducing FOV to minimal and adjusting distance/map fog got me VERY RECOGNIZABLE UNIT SILHOUETTES and Steady 60 FPS on my working monitor. So, yeah... I guess you could redeem Reforged framerate and blurry battles just by defining those few values (definitely is what MS doing with their 2.0 release gossiped).

 

[Evilhog]

@antontama
Could you please reupload the old map with CSW assets? I know it does not represent your current vision of the project, but I liked that map a lot.
Too bad I didn't bother to make a backup.

 

[antontama]

@antontama
Could you please reupload the old map with CSW assets? I know it does not represent your current vision of the project, but I liked that map a lot.
Too bad I didn't bother to make a backup.

Sure thing, here you go: Google Drive

Thanks for your warming words, I'm really happy to know at least some of us enjoying it