WarCom - Multiplayer Mod (Increase Player Limit)

TriggerHappy · Mar 31, 2014

genin32 said:
When I asked you can you remove the black areas from the screen that are behind the UI, you told me that SharpCraft can't do this then it means that SharpCraft can't touch inner files of the game.

This statement is hilarious.

You act like I'm sitting here lying to you. YES, SharpCraft can allow increased map size if used properly. Single-player mode inherently provides this.

Also what's with your posts being multi-colored. Do your posts need special attention over everyone elses or something lol?

A Void · Mar 31, 2014

Xonok said:
SharpCraft removes the filesize limit by letting multiplayer games be started in singleplayer. So yes, it uses a different method.

Multi-player games in Single Player? Interesting.. . Tough I do not advise on doing that, you will have so much to do. Single-Player was designed differently from Multi-Player. Lots of luck then

PS: With StarCraft II Arcade thing it is possible that Blizzard wont be happy with this awesome tool, they are likely to release a new patch to ruin this mod just as they ruined RtC. Because they want everyone to play StarCraft II, they even made the Arcade games free to play on free to play version.!

LordDz · Mar 31, 2014

Having just skimmed through thisvery quickly, does this mean we can have 16-64 player melee games?

Would be quite cool to have a large melee map and see how it dukes out. Could try it here on Hive.

GhostWolf · Mar 31, 2014

genin, Blizzard didn't release any patch to "ruin RtC". Only a couple of addresses had to be patched for it to work again (though I believe jAPI did get outdated, and RtC relied on it).

In any case, MindWorx (or someone?) did in fact remove the UI, it's just that the game doesn't actually render there, it's just black bars.
You can make a plugin that gets access to the internal D3D context and do whatever you want, so yes, SharpCraft does actually let you do all of this, it's simply that nobody made any fully working plugin for it.

Xonok · Mar 31, 2014

LordDz said:
Having just skimmed through thisvery quickly, does this mean we can have 16-64 player melee games?

Would be quite cool to have a large melee map and see how it dukes out. Could try it here on Hive.

So far I've heard that there is no way inside warcraft to get the player number. Every player is player 1 to self. Player 2 are allies, 3 are enemies... or something along those lines.
A melee map will be tough.

However, you can make a 64-player hero arena if you code it appropriately.

TriggerHappy · Mar 31, 2014

Xonox said:
So far I've heard that there is no way inside warcraft to get the player number. Every player is player 1 to self. Player 2 are allies, 3 are enemies... or something along those lines.
A melee map will be tough.

SharpCraft allows the creation of new types, and possibly modifying current ones. Meaning you can technically extend (or create) the player type to support whatever you need.

I'm not 100% sure on this though.

A Void · Mar 31, 2014

GhostWolf said:
genin, Blizzard didn't release any patch to "ruin RtC". Only a couple of addresses had to be patched for it to work again (though I believe jAPI did get outdated, and RtC relied on it).

In any case, MindWorx (or someone?) did in fact remove the UI, it's just that the game doesn't actually render there, it's just black bars.
You can make a plugin that gets access to the internal D3D context and do whatever you want, so yes, SharpCraft does actually let you do all of this, it's simply that nobody made any fully working plugin for it.

Please if this is truly possible then make it. Make the game render in those locations. I hope this is not such a big task, seeing how you will increase players. I will credit +rep for such task. Please include the render thingy in WarCom or just create a plugin that does that.

Kazeon · Apr 3, 2014

people should keep masterpiece project like this as secret.. based on my true experience, 90% I failed on my project after I shared the developement.. I don't know why. But I'm not hoping this mod is failing

Tal'Rarity · Apr 4, 2014

Any release dates planned yet on this?

A MMORPG in Wc3 sounds quite fun to get started on.

Good work by the way, glad something like this is finally shining again. Hope it continues to shine.

Rui · Apr 5, 2014

Forgive me for the ignorance, but for a MMORPG wouldn't there need to be at least 1 server? If yes, it should employ contemporary delay reduction tools—has anyone played melee on Warcraft III recently? The delay is enormous.

Cataract92 · Apr 5, 2014

Warcom has a completely different networking code thas wc3 as far as I know. But a server would be necessary

Waffle · Apr 6, 2014

warcom has completely different networking code???? wtf? why? since when?

then there is like 0 chance you could play a game with any people with regular war3?!
that would totally suck :*( (and also recategorise this mod well outside the scope of usability for all my current projects)

GhostWolf · Apr 6, 2014

WarCom implements normal TCP (UDP too?) sockets.
All the networking will be up to the map, and yes, you wouldn't be able to play with other people without it. But then, this is true in general for SharpCraft, seeing how it adds things that don't exist in Warcraft 3.

Ralle · Apr 6, 2014

The upside of this is also that you can have games where people join during the game right? Like real MMO style games?

GhostWolf · Apr 6, 2014

You can do anything you want, but for anything serious you'd need to know a lot about networking (and have a server and a database). Kind of like writing a game from scratch.

Ralle · Apr 7, 2014

Ah, that sets the bar quite high. Is there a way to use normal networking though?

A Void · Apr 7, 2014

I'm sure that this will be truly a wonderful modification and a plugin. But the problem is that it will be too advanced. If some cant learn vJass nor Jass then how can anyone expect to use this? Maybe you should create your own GUI data for others to pick out and start creating from? And to write a game from scratch has no point in War3 Engine. If you really wanted to write a game why do it on this engine? I suggest Unity, its a little much easier than WarCom.

Waffle · Apr 7, 2014

so basically you need weeks of work just to be able to play this online and even then it willl probably be buggy and explode in your face?

this just became useless to me.

might as well start making a stand-alone FS game...

GhostWolf · Apr 7, 2014

What do you mean normal networking?

WarCom isn't just something client-sided, it has a server back-end.

If TriggerHappy works on it, it can also have a generic data set/get functions so that it should be easy to use for different maps (by removing the need to know how to use sockets). You'd still need that server running somewhere, though.

Now if we're just talking about grabbing information from somewhere, you can use the much simpler HTTP plugin.

Ralle · Apr 7, 2014

I meant Wc3 native networking when I said normal networking.

Streak · Apr 20, 2014

OMG holy sh" this is so so nice and it can help warcraft/hiveworkshop survive the future nice idea lets keep the hive alive :thumbs_up:

Xarwin · May 22, 2014

Dead?

Kakerate · Jun 12, 2014

That would be really unfortunate to hear this is dead D:

TriggerHappy · Jun 16, 2014

No it's not dead it's just on hold right now.

I may continue development with an older version of SharpCraft.

Frotty · Jun 16, 2014

TriggerHappy said:
No it's not dead it's just on hold right now.

Meaning it is dead :ogre_hurrhurr:

Xonok · Jun 16, 2014

Frotty said:
Meaning it is dead

You're putting him down for something that you can't know. Just stop.

Kam · Jun 18, 2014

TriggerHappy said:
No it's not dead it's just on hold right now.

I may continue development with an older version of SharpCraft.

I look forward to whatever you produce.

Tal'Rarity · Sep 16, 2014

Any news?

TriggerHappy · Sep 21, 2014

Haven't worked on WarCom specifically for various reasons.

Here's a multiplayer demonstration I'm working on though.

Me testing with WaterKnight
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin_data/8ro5fg/untilted2.jpg

LAN tests
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin_data/8ro5fg/adasda.jpg
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin_data/8ro5fg/mmo.jpg

I'll probably need more people willing to test.

edo494 · Sep 21, 2014

I can help you test it sometime(assuming I will actually have time, which Im running out of, because tomorrow univeristy starts, and the classes layout is pretty fucked up)

kamyflex · Sep 22, 2014

I'm Ready to Test, add me if interrested

Tal'Rarity · Sep 22, 2014

When you complete this.... Please make a interface/hopefully GUI somewhat and a tutorial for this whenever you get time TriggerHappy.

I am counting on you. =)

Especially since some people are now shutting down official servers.

Ralle · Sep 22, 2014

This is so fucking cool!

Syntist · Nov 16, 2014

Is it dead?? i was waiting for warcom and i am willing to test it please

release Alpha Version bro please

i am really waiting for this

kamyflex · Nov 17, 2014

Good day TriggerHappy, we just want to know if warcom is currently on development ?
well, if its dead, there are people who can continue working on it, but i personally hope you are the one who will continue on it

We Also would like to have an approximative release date ?
Contact me if you need any kind of help, Good luck

Syntist · Nov 28, 2014

It's dead bro, :goblin_cry:

i know that feel :goblin_cry:

Anchorist · Dec 2, 2014

Good job! Keep it up! If there is any way i can help ya with this (MySQL) just let me know!

Syntist · Dec 22, 2014

bro any update??

A Void · Dec 22, 2014

Syntist said:
bro any update??

whats's wrong with you? You already answered your own question. It is dead.

kamyflex · Dec 22, 2014

its not dead ...

A Void · Dec 22, 2014

kamyflex said:
its not dead ...

That's your opinion.

edo494 · Dec 22, 2014

A Void said:
That's your opinion.

A Void said:
whats's wrong with you? You already answered your own question. It is dead.

and that is yours

A Void · Dec 22, 2014

edo494 said:
and that is yours

Isn't it obvious?

edo494 · Dec 22, 2014

A Void said:
Isn't it obvious?

A Void said:
That's your opinion.

was also quite obvious and you posted anyway, so did I

A Void · Dec 22, 2014

edo494 said:
was also quite obvious and you posted anyway, so did I

Fair enough.

skelguardian · Jan 21, 2015

So wait... Is this dead or not :'(?

Oh god. I got linked here from another forum. I saw the initial post and my heart skipped a beat.

Then I skipped to the last page, and appearantly it's dead? aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

kamyflex · Jan 22, 2015

hi ! its dead when TriggerHappy say it is ^^ its HIS project after all

if you want some thing similar try sharpcraft, its older but working.

Xonok · Jan 22, 2015

WarCom is based on sharpcraft actually. It's written write there in the first post.

Tanasren · Mar 14, 2015

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