Vista Vs XP

[Idontlikeu]

its a close tie on most of the forums...but which do you think is better? Just vote if you don't have enough time or do not want to rant or cheer on either OS. Keep in mind not to rant another person because they voted for Vista/XP.

OK, I will start:
I say its a tie. Vista's security is a very complex one and is very good for people who want an army base as a security. Unfortunately, many games and other softwares do not support Vista's high complex security, and therefore, you must tear down all of Vista's support features, including the UAC. Yes, the GUI kicks ass, but it kicks so much ass, that your RAM is reduced by at least 2 Gigabytes, making it virtually a piece of crap. Unfortunately, Vista is a necessary evil for most new computers, and is more reliable. XP has OK GUI and its support and security is a barely an ant to Vista. But XP has been proven and never really bitched about unlike Vista. It has gotten so bad, that Microsoft has said screwed it and now are working on a new OS. So, in my closing argument, neither is good, but if I to choose, I would pick Vista.

 

[Gilles]

Where the hell is Mac? Ralle will punish you!

Jeez, security doesn't get better than Mac, and it uses RAM well. Also OS X is more compatible with XP than Vista is. xD

 

[Idontlikeu]

Mac sucks too much to even be considered

 

[Grade A Kill]

Right you are Idontlikeyou, if you want security gilles than use Linux, Linux is not used as much as either Mac or Windows, so there are alot less viruses designed for Linux, its great for works too.

how ever i use computers for games so XP is the winner, Vista isn't as good for games, Vista has alot of errors, they may have fixed alot of them but they are still there, incompatability is one, but i play games mostly so it is XP for me, it works great, i dont have to get "Mac" specific games, just get good Anti-virus protection and your set, also stay off unsafe sites.

who voted for Linux by the way?

 

[Idontlikeu]

I did, lol, Its public

 

[Arvedui]

Where the hell is Mac? Ralle will punish you!

Jeez, security doesn't get better than Mac, and it uses RAM well. Also OS X is more compatible with XP than Vista is. xD

Gilles is right, as usual. I use Vista, but all my friends at school have Macs and they are far better. Mac pretty much owns all. The only downfall is that it's usually more expensive.

And in terms of Vista and Xp, I honestly don't see much of a difference.. just different look, and initially more things were XP compatible and not vista. But by being a monopoly that can do whatever it wants, they pretty much forced everyone to conform to Vista.

 

[Grade A Kill]

So how is Mac better than XP, those PC vs Mac comercials aren't exactly truthful. whats a better choice if youra gamer?

and also how is Mac better than Linux?

oh and Arvedui mayeb your freinds at school just have better components, better RAM or processors, a XP can be just as good with the right components.

 

[Arvedui]

So how is Mac better than XP, those PC vs Mac comercials aren't exactly truthful. whats a better choice if youra gamer?

and also how is Mac better than Linux?

Macs run smoother, have more capabilities than PCs, and they cannot get viruses. But this isn't about Macs and PCs, it's about Vista and XP, and apparently Linux for some reason.

 

[donut3.5]

Gaming + various programs:
Windows > Macs
Everything else:
Macs > Windows
When you put Linux into the equation, and get Wine..
Linux > All. In everything.
EDIT: Also, don't say Macs can't get viruses, because that is completely false. It is just that the Mac is so unpopular that its not even worth making a virus for.. There are like, three though, or something.
--donut3.5--

 

[Gilles]

Gaming + various programs:
Windows > Macs
Everything else:
Macs > Windows
When you put Linux into the equation, and get Wine..
Linux > All. In everything.
EDIT: Also, don't say Macs can't get viruses, because that is completely false. It is just that the Mac is so unpopular that its not even worth making a virus for.. There are like, three though, or something.
--donut3.5--

This is quite true, although my personal preference is Mac. I will buy a Windows PC for gaming, but I want a Macbook for everything else. It's true that Macs can get viruses, and it's true they just don't have very many, but (don't quote me on this) I'm pretty sure the foundation of Mac is superior to Windows, so even if people focused on Mac, it would still get less than Windows does now.

 

[alfredx_sotn]

My laptop came with Windows Vista, made me QQ.

 

[Idontlikeu]

so...noone else voted

 

[Samuraid]

XP or Linux, I'll take either for my personal machines.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

XP still leads.

 

[alfredx_sotn]

Formatting my laptop to XP now as I'm typing...

 

[Idontlikeu]

XP 43 57.33%
Vista 30 40.00%
Who Cares PC sucks anyways 2 2.67%
Current polls on another forum

 

[GST_Nemisis]

the main problem with macs is the complete lack of decent software. Unless you are using logic/garage band, that video program or photoshop they are useless. And since their security has been totally compromised by a recent flash exploit, with no antivirus software available they are inredably unsafe. Mymac is constantly spitting "not enough ram" errors at me and there's nothing I can do as macs are virtually unupgradable. XP is by far my favourite, with a wide range of software and antivirus programs they are safe and functional. The only advantage of mac is logic 8 and only logic 8, which is undeniably an awesome peice of software.as a business user vista is worthless to, however direct x 10 is rather lovely, if only it didnt have shite networking capabilities and shite compatability with older programs, oh, and if it was alot less hardware intensive, then it would be awesome.

 

[brad.dude03]

I hate the Mac interface. It's not more secure, no one bothers wasting their time making viruses for it.

Linux runs the smoothest, is the most secure, XP has the best game support, and Vista just fails in all departments, since everything else does it better.

 

[Eccho]

XP is the best when it comes to gaming for sure.

But somehow I feel more secured with vista, maybe because its trying to overprotect one, when you try to use it.

However, microsoft failed not so long ago when they release a security update for vista, causing the computer to act weird. One thing which I suffered was that it did no longer ran the vista op automatically when starting the computer... So you had to go into the BIOS (or what is it called, the thing which you can enter before the OS) and select the "preferred" boot, and start...

Another thing with Vista is, that its complete crap with WLAN connection. In both vista and xp there is a background program (WLAN Autoconfig or something) which is searching the network for updates every minute, and in the same time, creating a freeze lag at that moments.
In xp however, you could turn this process off, if you had another program revising the network (such as d-link or belkin). But in vista this doesnt help...

Luckily I found something called Vista Anti-lag on the inet, which prevented this freezing.

But xp wins for sure when it comes to gaming performances.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/xp-vs-vista-uk,review-2067-4.html

Edit: The test results of this pages shows that xp is better for gaming and in overall applications, while vista is better on video and picture editing programs such as photoshop.

 

[brad.dude03]

It's all a facade. You can make a fortress out of cardboard, that doesn't mean it'll be secure.

 

[konerboy]

Lol the first virus ever was for mac

I personally like vista, it dosn't have all the problems that people cry about.

 

[Eccho]

Maybe you disabled it-.-

Anyway, yea, its most likely a facade. But still it prevent you from getting msn-viruses since it does not allow you to click on a spammed message if the user goes offline.

tss, but ya thats only one plus... towards several minuses anyway

 

[~Void~]

My reasons for vista:

It doesn't bug for me. That stuff was mostly removed with updates and patches.
Every single one of my XP programs work fine on Vista.
It's faster. Don't say it's not, because I've tried both on the same computer.
I like the graphics. And yes, that does matter to me.
It works better with my computer.
I got it for free.

Now, before this gets into an anti-vista flame war, note that my computer came with Vista and was built for it. I don't know why, but it seems to me that machines that aren't made for Vista don't tend to like it very much. The arguments over not having enough space are nulled with my 600gb total hard drive space and 4gb of ram. Also, I have Vista Ultimate, which seems to work a lot better than the normal versions. Some people say vista computers come with too many programs, mine didn't come with any... at all...

However, microsoft failed not so long ago when they release a security update for vista, causing the computer to act weird. One thing which I suffered was that it did no longer ran the vista op automatically when starting the computer... So you had to go into the BIOS (or what is it called, the thing which you can enter before the OS) and select the "preferred" boot, and start...

Another thing with Vista is, that its complete crap with WLAN connection. In both vista and xp there is a background program (WLAN Autoconfig or something) which is searching the network for updates every minute, and in the same time, creating a freeze lag at that moments.
In xp however, you could turn this process off, if you had another program revising the network (such as d-link or belkin). But in vista this doesnt help...

Luckily I found something called Vista Anti-lag on the inet, which prevented this freezing.

That security update didn't affect my machine at all.
The WLAN thing, well first of all I don't use WLAN normally, and second it doesn't really bother me, and third well there are some things you just have to deal with. Small things like that won't discourage me from upgrading.

As for dumb "performance tests" well those are total BS because it varies from machine to machine.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Both vista and XP work fine.

If your PC is old dont use vista.
If your PC is new use vista (for DX10 support).

 

[Eccho]

As for dumb "performance tests" well those are total BS because it varies from machine to machine.

Well duh, they did the test with the exact same configuration on the Bios system and graphics card and everything... Only the Op was changed.
If you looked at my link, I suggest you to look a the page before that one, since there it descibes all the system facts.

Ofcourse, every single program work for me as well. But you know pure vista versions dont. I think it was only the 32-bit system which is working alright.

Perhaps your right, I have never said I wanted to replace my current version of vista. Ah one more thing. Did you know that vista is using 1/3 of your total memory to create systemrecovery points?
Basically if you have 2gb ram like me (as example) its always using 700 of my memory.
You could easily turn it off though, but then you cant create security points.

I didnt think that my vista cam with too many programs either... In fact those programs I got was helpful instead, such as nero essentials

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And nope I dont feel like flaming you yet. Im just posing facts =)
But true indeed, I wouldnt replace my vista either, even if its only the standard home edition

 

[TDR]

I didn't find vista much different than xp in my eyes. Same errors, same behavior imo...though I haven't used vista extensively. So it's a tie for me.
By the way, is XP on 64 bit worth it yet?

 

[brad.dude03]

Both vista and XP work fine.

If your PC is old dont use vista.
If your PC is new use vista (for DX10 support).

DX10 support is non-existant, so don't bother. The drivers wont work properly until Windows 7 comes out.

Since Vista is so fail, Billy Boy is hinting we'll have Windows 7 as soon as 2009.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Funny, DX10 works perfectly for me. Also vista hardly seems to have been failing much at all. It runs TES oblivion even better than XP (supports alt tabing without freezing the game).

 

[Black flesh]

Vista or XP vista or xp i think xp win.

 

[redmarine]

I vote for Vista because it doesn't bug me a bit. I love how it takes care of my computer and stopping all incomming alien connections. Also all the applications I use work perfectly for Vista.
XP is good because it has IPX.

 

[brad.dude03]

Incoming alien connections? Buy a router you burk! If you happen to only have one computer in your household, then get a firewall, it works far better than Vista's.

 

[redmarine]

We got 5 computers in our house and only 3 of them are connected to the network with internet connection through a fast router. All the computers got firewall and Vistas's firewall is good. Sometimes the other computers attack me but I don't care and keep blocking.
XP's IPX ftw!
Vistas's security ftw!

 

[pyropk95]

first of all at moms i have a vista...the secruity is so frickin dumb....xp cool for games, and very common ...macs fail at everything but garageband

 

[redmarine]

first of all at moms i have a vista...the secruity is so frickin dumb....xp cool for games, and very common ...macs fail at everything but garageband

You mean moddeling, image stuff and movie making right?

 

[brad.dude03]

No, you can model just fine on Windows with 3DSMax. And hey look, Photoshop is the best image-editing software out there, also a Windows product.

And god damnit, I swear on my life, Mac's are NOT the best choice for movie making. I'm taking a Communications class where the whole point is to make movies using iMovie 08 on Leopard. It's a god forsaken piece of software and I want it dead.

Premiere does it better, and hey look, that's a Windows product too.

 

[redmarine]

Vegas should probably do the trick. The problem is that Apple creates its own softwares instead of just letting others do it better and then buy them.

 

[Gilles]

I've never had problems with the old Mac I had. That's pretty much the sole reason I love it. All the PC's in my house go to the shits after a month. I have no clue what I do to them.

 

[donut3.5]

No, you can model just fine on Windows with 3DSMax. And hey look, Photoshop is the best image-editing software out there, also a Windows product.

Photoshop isn't Windows specifically.. Runs on Mac too, Brad. All of Adobe's stuff does.
3DS Max is, I believe, Windows only though. But on the other hand, if you get even more professional there are Mac modeling programs too.
--donut3.5--

 

[brad.dude03]

I'm just saying, everything you can do on a Mac you can do just as good, if not better, on Windows.

 

[donut3.5]

One of my friends got a Mac so he could surf porn without worrying about viruses..
Does that count as a benefit?
--donut3.5--

 

[Master334]

XP rules, mainly because there is alot of games and other things that only work on XP, vista has stuffed up alot.....

 

[Darkey]

Well, for now XP wins, but I'm willing to change to Vista when I get a new computer, seeing as SP 1 has come to Vista.

 

[Hakeem]

The problem is that Apple creates its own softwares instead of just letting others do it better and then buy them.

Long story short, Apple sucks.

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Linux > everything + 9000

Now, let me explain why:
Lock in. Windows and Mac both suffer from the same problem, they value money more than you. That, and there used to be a law requiring all hardware and software to have back doors built in for law enforcement. A former law Microsoft happily enforces.

Now for games, Linux is still better. Unfortunately, Blizzard sucks and wont make it's games natively work in Linux.

 

[redmarine]

Blizzard are one of the rare company who really does create high quality games that everyone loves. Linux just isn't popular enough for them to change.

 

[Eccho]

XP rules, mainly because there is alot of games and other things that only work on XP, vista has stuffed up alot.....

Thats not really true... If you buy vista 64bit then you will probably have problems.
But there are xp-compatilitied vista as well, if you buy it in 32bit I think. (or it was a request you had to do in the store, but mine can take everything so far)

 

[redmarine]

Vista has a feature which allows you to run softwares that works on XP. Though I've never really tried it yet.

 

[brad.dude03]

One of my friends got a Mac so he could surf porn without worrying about viruses..
Does that count as a benefit?
--donut3.5--

No, it doesn't. There is no such thing as porn on a Mac. MacPorn does not exist. IT'S ALL A LIE!

 

[Andreja]

I pick XP i used Vista Home Basic and well it failed.It took like 10 minutes to turn itself off was slow like hell ,took to much RAM so my TES Oblivion always hickuped.
But that just might have been the shitty Home Basic Version.
Im thinking of changing to Vista Ultimate when i get a new Graphic Card for DirectX 10

 

[GST_Nemisis]

no point, unless you want to play crysis until your eyes bleed why bother with directx10? its pretty much un-supported.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_10_support

theres what, maybe, 5 or 6 good ones?

 

[brad.dude03]

Yeah, and Crysis looks great on Dx9.