Uncharted Waters 1.30b

[Moderator]

00:25, 16th Jul 2008
Septimus:

Note : The map rating was given 4 according to the mini moderator vote and comment about it. However, there is a request from the author for the map to be review back to get a better rating. Thus, I would proceed to check this map personally by myself. Here is the result.

Good Point

[+] Map information/description was given in professional, neat and well detail.
[+] Most of the bug fix.
[+] Professional way of setting dialog
[+] A lot of option available
[+] Good firing system

Neutral Point

[!]

Bad Point

[-] Forgot to mention this map is protected ?

Overall - 5/5
Approve

Comment : I had seen you did a good improvement on it.

Off Topic : I still waiting for you to create Sudoku map.

 

[James7]

Hmm...Is this anything like 'Bloody Pirates?'

 

[hellblazer-14]

One word man, WOW.
This has got to be one of the best maps since... ever xD... anyway, on to reviewing.

PROS ---

-Totally remade UI, along with Dialogues, Icons and such. Excellent!!
-Very Realistic Movement system, the ship actually maneuvers like a ship
-Very addictive
-Ultra Realistic
-So many different options, unbelievable work.
-Realistic Terrain

CONS ---

-Sometimes when you die, your ship re spawns really close to an island, and sometimes facing an island, making it almost impossible to avoid running into it and dieing, with is annoying...
-A good idea for regenerating your ammo could be a port somewhere, where you buy ammo, because stopping to "repair" your ship wouldn't replenish your lost ammo (if you are aiming for realism)

Thats all I've seen up till now, So, Keep up the work, I think I'm going to play this with some friends!

 

[Kitabatake]

Update 1.22

The game has been updated to 1.22!

• Cannonballs now deal correct damage
• Suicide will now stop your killing spree

 

[Devine]

i just read hellblazer's reply and now i'm realy excited )
i played the game:
+ modding this map makes modding those stupid maps worth it.
+ its realy fun
+ you have a realy sweet design
+ its excualy fun just cruising around
+ realy realistic
+ the various possibilities of gamemodes at start
+++++ This map will be more succesful then DotA

- the terraining on the borders (border islands) looks not realy realistic: needs to wider at some places
- the keycontrols should be chooseable (qwerty or azerty)

overal 4.9/5 (if those 2 points are fixed then youv got yourself 5/5)

 

[TKF]

What if you also added the arrow keys to ship movement in addition to the mouse?

Up/Down: Speed increase/decrease 10%
Right/Left: Change the facing degree a little. Tapping the keys would make you turn more.

 

[Kitabatake]

Update 1.23

The game has been updated to 1.23!

- the keycontrols should be chooseable (qwerty or azerty)


What if you also added the arrow keys to ship movement in addition to the mouse?

• Players can now choose whether their arrow keys control the ship movement or cannons

So if you have an azerty keyboard, you can use the arrow keys instead of W A S D keys.
If you have a qwerty keyboard, you can choose if you want to use the arrow keys to move the ship or operate the cannons
The arrow key functions are toggled by pressing ESC any time during game.

- the terraining on the borders (border islands) looks not realy realistic: needs to wider at some places


-Sometimes when you die, your ship re spawns really close to an island, and sometimes facing an island, making it almost impossible to avoid running into it and dieing, with is annoying...


-A good idea for regenerating your ammo could be a port somewhere, where you buy ammo, because stopping to "repair" your ship wouldn't replenish your lost ammo (if you are aiming for realism)

I'll take care of those for the next versions

 

[DustWolf]

Okay I'm tempted to try this
Gonna comment when I do that

 

[DustWolf]

Well the game looks fine to me, but the only thing that bothers me is the music :S
How do you mute the music??
9/10 because of the music xD

 

[Aeroblyctos]

This is great game. I tested the game with Kitabatake personally many times. It has cool features and in future it will be ever greater! Keep doing this project, Kitabatake! +rep

Off Topic : I feel like I wanna shoot you everytime I remember about your puzzle at The Chosen One campaign by Aeroblyctos, Keep laughing at me when I failed to solve the puzzle... lol

Heheheh... It's the same annoying Kitabatake!

 

[Kitabatake]

Well the game looks fine to me, but the only thing that bothers me is the music :S
How do you mute the music??
9/10 because of the music xD

You can mute the music by pressing Ctrl + M

This is great game. I tested the game with Kitabatake personally many times. It has cool features and in future it will be ever greater! Keep doing this project, Kitabatake! +rep

Off Topic : I feel like I wanna shoot you everytime I remember about your puzzle at The Chosen One campaign by Aeroblyctos, Keep laughing at me when I failed to solve the puzzle... lol

Heheheh... It's the same annoying Kitabatake!

I think I'll upload all 10 levels of that puzzle to the map section...
Edit: Uploaded here



Edit2: UPDATE 1.24!

The game has been updated to 1.24!

• Fixed a severe respawn bug that occurred after about 20 respawns
• Fixed respawn location detection
  • Cannot spawn next to another ship
  • Cannot spawn too close to an island
  • Cannot spawn on map edges
• Host can now choose the map boundary type
  • Island Wall
  • Abyss
• Minor bug fixes

Edit3: WHOOPS quick update!

The game has been updated to 1.25!

• Fixed a cannonball damage bug where the cannonballs would only deal 15% of the real damage

Edit4: Updated once more

The game has been updated to 1.26!

• Host can now select whether to turn Friendly fire on or off
• Flotsam respawns now
• Teamkills now take away a kill

More comments, constructive criticism and suggestions!

 

[emperor_d3st]

Oookay. I have hosted the map and when the game started after configuring the game settings I instantly won. I clicked on "Continue" but I was kicked from my own game.
My setting were: Lot of powerups, 12+ health, no alliances, the rest was left on default. Other people could play the game after I was kicked.

 

[TKF]

Great concept on this map. 2 cannon balls on each side.

I can imagine this on a Battle Ship like style, where you must use skill with cannons instead of autofired weapons. The 3 slots represents the cannons on the left side of your inventory, and the 3 right slots could represent the right side cannons...

 

[mikey4555]

Uncharted Waters

I love the game! I serouisly do, it shows many skills as into creativity and style. There are somethings I think you should add though:
-When a cannon ball hits an island, it creates a crator, or a black/ruined ground.
-You should add a system where if you get close enough to a ship, your crew attacks the other ship with swords/axes etc. This could be done by using the gold as "Crew Members" and each of them increases your damage by _.
-This "Crew Member" system could also be used for repairs, so if you had say 20 crew it allowes 20 hp regeneration per second.
-Another system you should add is when say another ship attacks you, you lose your crew members. To increase the loss of your crew members you attack the ship from closer range.
Thank you, and I do hope you can add these systems.

 

[Kitabatake]

Oookay. I have hosted the map and when the game started after configuring the game settings I instantly won. I clicked on "Continue" but I was kicked from my own game.
My setting were: Lot of powerups, 12+ health, no alliances, the rest was left on default. Other people could play the game after I was kicked.

Hmm has anyone else experienced this?
Did you try to play the map again?

Great concept on this map. 2 cannon balls on each side.

Thanks!

I can imagine this on a Battle Ship like style, where you must use skill with cannons instead of autofired weapons. The 3 slots represents the cannons on the left side of your inventory, and the 3 right slots could represent the right side cannons...

Yes I saw your thread about that. Good luck with your project!

I love the game! I serouisly do, it shows many skills as into creativity and style. There are somethings I think you should add though:
-When a cannon ball hits an island, it creates a crator, or a black/ruined ground.
-You should add a system where if you get close enough to a ship, your crew attacks the other ship with swords/axes etc. This could be done by using the gold as "Crew Members" and each of them increases your damage by _.
-This "Crew Member" system could also be used for repairs, so if you had say 20 crew it allowes 20 hp regeneration per second.
-Another system you should add is when say another ship attacks you, you lose your crew members. To increase the loss of your crew members you attack the ship from closer range.
Thank you, and I do hope you can add these systems.

Hmm I will put your ideas into consideration!

Thanks for the feedback!

 

[TKF]

Can you upload the icons used in this map on hiveworkshop? I need the 2 cannon icons. I would like to have them in my map.

Edit_

nvm, I did take a screen shot and took the icons from there.

Now I'm quite far with my project. However I cannot see any bugs in singleplayer that needs multiplayer testing, so I'm only need to finish the rest of the weapons and the map is at beta stage. Made a simple bounty system which increases when the ships buy a lot of stuff. So far, it does still looks quite similar to a standard battle ships mao (I've done nothing with the terrain, I would prefer someone who enjoys terraining to redo the terrain). I'm already created a simple boarding system also which allows capture of non-hero ships (Hero ships is sunked instead of captured)

I only got this idea when I played your map. I've just given you rep so can't give another, but you deserves credit for inspiration

 

[Thrax-]

Fantastic map

Combat system very similar to World Of Pirates, which was a fun mmorpg. Definitely needs to be able to shut off the music, and its almost unfair that someone can swing their ship around so easy with the mouse, whereas someone using a keyboard is slower turning..

Someday i'd like to implement a similar kind of ship move/combat system into my map.

 

[TKF]

Someday i'd like to implement a similar kind of ship move/combat system into my map.

sry to disapoint you, but I'm made my own system and going to release more beta versions. Thanks tho THIS GREAT MAP. Uncharted Waters gave me the idea

 

[Thrax-]

sry to disapoint you, but I'm made my own system and going to release more beta versions. Thanks tho THIS GREAT MAP. Uncharted Waters gave me the idea

Eh? I was talking about the map for this thread... "Uncharted Waters". And as much as id like to give uncharted waters online (the koei one) credit for making that type of combat system, world of pirates was around long before uwo was around.

 

[Kitabatake]

Update 1.28

The game has been updated to version 1.28 !

• Changed the background music
  • The new background music should fit in the game a lot better than it's predecessor

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Fantastic map

Combat system very similar to World Of Pirates, which was a fun mmorpg.

Thanks!

Definitely needs to be able to shut off the music,

You can do that by pressing Ctrl + M

and its almost unfair that someone can swing their ship around so easy with the mouse, whereas someone using a keyboard is slower turning..

Everyone is allowed to use the mouse. Keyboard ship control is only in the game because someone suggested it.
You can also press Esc to let the arrow keys control the cannons (in case you don't have a WASD keyboard)

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And as much as id like to give uncharted waters online (the koei one) credit for making that type of combat system

This custom game has nothing to do with any games with similar names.

I did notice there was some "Uncharted Waters Online" out there, but it was too late to start changing the name... Also I couldn't think of any name that would give a better excuse for having a blank minimap

 

[TKF]

Your system is superb, mine is buggy. However I've made a fair BS map. The starting weapons is quite normal, then the more expensive weapons make the game more extreme...


I'm sure you can find many flaws about my map. It's at beta stage. I would like professional feedback.


Good you changed the music, I got tired of that music.

 

[maplover]

its really a good map.
but something i dont like and wish to see u improve it
1) computer doesnt work on it...(extreme bad)
2) more slots should be there for power ups
3) cannon balls should only travel a limited range not the whole map
4) if you can make the ships throw wood out when they get hit by cannon balls (more realistic)
5) make a port when you can upgrade you ship...like turn into a beter one and buy good cannons etc.
6) good luck with making my request ty

 

[Kitabatake]

its really a good map.
but something i dont like and wish to see u improve it
1) computer doesnt work on it...(extreme bad)

It would be too time consuming to create an AI for the ships. But I might consider it later if I get very bored...

2) more slots should be there for power ups

Hmmm... I will add more powerups in later versions but I don't think I can fit any more powerup slots to the ships. I think I will rather focus on the powerups themselves

3) cannon balls should only travel a limited range not the whole map

Yes, that will be fixed for the next version.

4) if you can make the ships throw wood out when they get hit by cannon balls (more realistic)

Very possible. All I have to do is a new special effect...

5) make a port when you can upgrade you ship...like turn into a beter one and buy good cannons etc.

Since so many people have suggested me to add ports, I guess I'll add them

6) good luck with making my request ty

Thanks for the suggestions!

 

[Royy]

4/5 Very nice map! I love all the customizable features and the ship control is amazing but i've found two problems

1. If you're playing a full house is begins to lag pretty bad
2. Ships have no collision if you just steer over another ship fire all 3 cannons it's an instant kill, not sure if that's a feature or a bug but it ruins it to a certain degree. It would be nice if there's an option to add collision to ships and/or have some sort of damage for ramming into another ship.

And a suggestions would be make a few different kinds of ships, such as a ship that's larger with more hp/ammo compacity but much has a slower acceleration and max speed compared to the normal one

And as for the ports i don't like the idea as much as other people if you could make them an option that'd be really cool.

Thanks for making a really awesome map

 

[Newuser]

Weird, Warcraft 3 crashes when I click on the map(not when I start, just click on it).

Actually, there are quite a bit of maps that seem to do this but don't know why.

 

[Kitabatake]

4/5 Very nice map! I love all the customizable features and the ship control is amazing but i've found two problems

1. If you're playing a full house is begins to lag pretty bad

Hmm I recommend playing with less players then and maybe setting the map size & island amount to small

2. Ships have no collision if you just steer over another ship fire all 3 cannons it's an instant kill, not sure if that's a feature or a bug but it ruins it to a certain degree. It would be nice if there's an option to add collision to ships and/or have some sort of damage for ramming into another ship.

Actually there IS ramming damage

And a suggestions would be make a few different kinds of ships, such as a ship that's larger with more hp/ammo compacity but much has a slower acceleration and max speed compared to the normal one

I'll consider the idea

And as for the ports i don't like the idea as much as other people if you could make them an option that'd be really cool.

Thanks for making a really awesome map

I'm glad that you like it

Weird, Warcraft 3 crashes when I click on the map(not when I start, just click on it).

Actually, there are quite a bit of maps that seem to do this but don't know why.

Hmm that's weird. Have you tried reinstalling WC3?

 

[Newuser]

Hmm that's weird. Have you tried reinstalling WC3?

Seems to work now after I redownloaded the map, guess it's either corrupt map first time I downloaded or something else. Anyway, nice map, good job

 

[D-Note]

hosted the map
pressed start game
and was kicked
said i won.
every1 else was still in-game

 

[Kitabatake]

hosted the map
pressed start game
and was kicked
said i won.
every1 else was still in-game

Hmmh weird, that happened to me once too.

Try rehosting the game and see if it happens again

 

[Dragoon_Jett]

Really great concept, I would tell you how the map is, but there was a server split after I started the game. Here is the replay UnchartedWatersServerSplit.w3g

 

[Kitabatake]

UPDATE 1.29 - OPEN SOURCE!

I'm currently having my first weekend holiday from the army and I decided to upload the unprotected version of this map before heading back to the barracks.

The map is now open source for anyone to edit and improve!

 

[TKF]

Hmm... Interesting.

I'll look on how you made the custom user interface.

 

[Zenerik]

Well... if all you've done is remove map protection, why are the movement control system is different? I currently have both 1.28 and 1.29, and while 1.28 work correctly as it should be; in 1.29 arrow keys also fires cannons, and ships' speed is near-zero. Confusing...

Since your map is open source now, I'll look into it and see if I can find and fix ( hopefully ) the problem.

 

[Icspark]

So far it looks pretty good, all the setting and shooting system, but why does my ship move so slow?

 

[raid1000]

the ships move paifully slow...

 

[jak3u]

Yeahh, the ship is really really slow, i'm just gonna download 1.28 in EpicWar...

 

[Thick_Armor]

Downloaded it.
Unplayable, first time round no one could move and the second time I won instantly for no reason.

 

[frostloh]

Why the hell is my ship so slow!?!?!?

 

[frostloh]

kitabake pls make the ships move faster...at first i thought ship wasnt moving but it was...nanometer by nanometer (ZZZZZ)

 

[SirMelf]

Hmmm... well... how do i put this... we... couldnt get the ships to move.
None of us 4. We couldnt find how to move in the description... Nothing worked. Our ships moved with about 1 pixel every 5 secs... Maybe we're stupid, but nothing happened whatever we tried. Maybe a qwertz- keyboard, but that shouldnt prevent the mouse to malfunktion, that didnt work either...

 

[Kitabatake]

Critical Update!

Map updated to version 1.30!

• Fixed a severe bug that caused ships not to move
  • Mmm yeah... The combat is a bit more fast paced again.
• Removed the spammy "Upkeep Ring" sound
  • In previous versions it used to play every time the player ordered the ship to move
    and due to the fast paced gameplay it would usually turn into annoying "RINGRINGRINGRING"-spam

 

[-Kobas-]

After I tried this epic map I have only 1 call it question... Dude you miss screenshots in map description! You must show to people awesome abilities and combat system! If then check images I can told you for sure you will increase map download by 100% for sure!

 

[Kitabatake]

After I tried this epic map I have only 1 call it question... Dude you miss screenshots in map description! You must show to people awesome abilities and combat system! If then check images I can told you for sure you will increase map download by 100% for sure!

Ah yes. Thanks for the suggestion.

 

[Anachron]

No credits?

 

[Kitabatake]

No credits?

You can see them by pressing F9 during the game.
I also included them in the map description now

 

[Anachron]

Alright, nice. I thought we had a rule about that, but anyway.
The generated terrain looks fine, I guess I should give it a try.
Why Ex-Creator? Are you finished with mapping?

 

[Kitabatake]

Alright, nice. I thought we had a rule about that, but anyway.

Quite a lot of maps display their credits in the quest log and there has never been a rule against that.

The generated terrain looks fine, I guess I should give it a try.
Why Ex-Creator? Are you finished with mapping?

I had a nearly year long pause because of military service.
Forgot to change the text..

 

[Anachron]

Alright, glad to see you back.

 

[J_Low]

Thanks for fixing the bug.