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The road to 1.2C

Discussion in 'Gaias Retaliation ORPG' started by Zwiebelchen, May 8, 2016.

  1. MiroBG

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    I wasnt talking about tanking...A Crusader with 40-50% evasion can easily outdps hunter or druid or maybe asasin in the long term fight vs a fast attacking boss since you can permanently spam Backhand and deal tons of dmg for free.It can easily out threat monk.Now Imagine it on a zerker...Infinitely spamming backhand.Do you now start to see how strong double EVA is ?
     
  2. Ethical

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    Spamming backhand IS tanking. I seriously doubt your claim of out dpsing hunters or assassins and i want to see video proof of that. You are literally assuming you evade every single hit and that every boss attacks as fast as alchemist during chemical rage. I have a double evasion soul myself and 50% evasion with hunter and bishop auras so i know how strong it is. But its definitely nowhere near as op as you claimed it to be.
     
  3. froz

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    Double Evasion is really good combo with backhand, but far from anything OP. Still, one shouldn't understate both defensive and offensive capabilities it gives you with backhand. What it does provide you with is capability to deal enough damage and protect you from hits enough times for zerker to be able to solo alch and brood with only HG and foothill items and healing merc. Those evaded hits and backhand extra damage dealt really adds over long fight just to barely beat two of those without lvl 50 talent and without any MP help from other players. Basically, zerker can go 1-50 on current content solo due to little extra you get out of those procs. It's probably possible without evasion for more talented people, but I consider it somewhat of a success to have completely solo lvl 50 char.

    Double Evasion is probably one of better soul combos overall imo.
     
  4. Ethical

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    exactly as froz said. which is why having a red soul with such a stat is important. the 3rd stat can literally be anything else.
     
  5. DrizztDoUrden

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    Lets just say you have to pay for good soul stats combination by aura and random stats. And if you have 40 evasion, 14 bonus reduces chance to hit you by 23% which is way more than bonus to any your parameter other soul combo can have.
     
  6. Ethical

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    Imo one feature 1.2c could have is where you pay a large sum to exchange only one of your soul stats for any other desired stat. This of course does not apply to reds.
     
  7. Hawajska

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    The only good reason to apply this, would be for reds. ;)
     
  8. Ethical

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    Reds are... quite good atm. Although if you want to change a stat for red it will probably require the max amount of gold or something.
     
  9. froz

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    Nah, changing stats on red seems like horrible idea in my book. They have fixed stats for reason. I could see randomizing one stat on blue soul to be a thing (some ugly quest + gold sink to make it hard to abuse - stuff like old hammer where you need to do tons of stuff in same play session) and I could see same thing being applied to auras of red souls. But stats on reds? Nah.
     
  10. Ethical

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    Its so abusable which is why i suggested only being able to change one stat to any other off/def stat you desire and adding a steep cost to it. Personally id say 80k is just fine.
     
  11. DrizztDoUrden

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    Cost is awful idea for obvious reason. You will be able to save, change soul and then load code you have saved before and save vault with it. So you've spent no gold and changed soul to whatever you want.
     
  12. Ethical

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    Did you read what i said? I said change 1 desired stat for another desired stat for a steep cost. Obviously you would only change it for the most undesirable stat on your soul and be content with it afterwards.
     
  13. Ira

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    but drizzt is right since your characters and your vault are 2 saves you can change your soul save and then reload your char.
     
  14. Ethical

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    you could do that. but having soul stats being too randomized was never a good idea to begin with. reds are much better now but also much rarer.
     
  15. Hawajska

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    Magician/Necro level 25 talent is kinda useless.

    -Necro doesn't use water globes
    -15% heal from Magic Missles sounds good, but necro go for fire dmg, so he pick Combusition
    -aoe dispell? sounds good bot it's instead of meteor and rarely used in fights.

    Is it possible to do something here?
     
  16. Ethical

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    even with talents, magic missiles out dps combustion. the stun is good but not like any of the current boss requires massive amounts of kiting anyway. as for meteor, i hardly use it myself as its often not required and it also has a poor dmg to mana ratio. so... aoe dispel is a good choice here.
     
  17. Hawajska

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    It's up to tactic and up to fight, sometimes meteor is a must, or atleast gr8 help(specialy with interrupt ability)

    Was wondering about more talent customization, it would alow for more strategy builds and more fun
     
  18. Ethical

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    if i am not mistaken zwieb already has plans for talent changes in 1.2C.

    btw how much more do we have to wait?
     
  19. SHBlade

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    Check the first post in this thread dude :v
     
  20. Zwiebelchen

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    A massive overhaul of the talents is planned. And it will come in one of the 1.2C iterations, but definitely not on the first release of 1.2C.