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The Rapper From Norway Strikes Again!

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You're making the wrong music, Norwegians make black metal, not (c)rap.
 
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I must agree, most of rap is really crap, but look, there are exceptions, I by myself like to listen to heavy metal, power metal, and sometimes even pagan metal (Bands like Equilibrium, Einherjer, Jorn Lande, Gravedigger, Van Halen, Rob Halford, U.D.O), but I must say, i like to listen to certain rap too, like stuff from kool savas, or Kaas, those are german rappers, they have really true texts, and they sound pretty cool, a example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPjlsVPqjE4

As a information to the rapper here: Try to make texts which have a deeper meaning, you know? Like stuff which is from reality, bad sides of the world, and good sides of the world.

You are pretty good, just go in the right direction, gangsta rap is NOT rap, trust me, it is the deep rap which is the one intelligent people like to listen to.
 
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Which kind of music is crap and which is not is depending on each individual and one individuals opinions may not apply to another individual. I agree with shiiK though, Norway is famous for the black metal, so *hint hint*? :D

Edit: I haven't listened to the song, but based on the comments it seems you must work on the lyrics. The lyrics are very important since I've heard dozens of pop, rap, etc. songs on the radio (note the radio, I don't usually listen to this kind of music) and all of those have lyrics which basically are two lines which are said with different sound effects and that's boring. Most metal songs have good lyrics and they usually don't say the same things twice, but a short little verse may be repeated once or sometimes two times. Also, another thing which I often hear in metal songs is that they use a lot of advanced English (which is awesome) and not those words every 5 year old knows.
 
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Oh come on ... death metal is nothing but puking into the microphone and raping the instruments. Rap is definitely more artistic. However, as already mentioned, it's based on everyones attitude to music ...

Well, I don't mean to say that I don't like any kind of metal at all, a few songs are good, the rest, for me, just sux.
Best metal song ever:
 
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Puking into the microphone and raping the instruments? It's called growling and playing instruments. And metal isn't only death metal. There are tons of sub-genres.

Metal bands just like to give their music an own genre. There are probably hundreds of "sub-genres", black metal, death metal, dark metal, heavy metal ... they are actually all the same.
 

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Metal bands just like to give their music an own genre. There are probably hundreds of "sub-genres", black metal, death metal, dark metal, heavy metal ... they are actually all the same.

Sure. All the same. Yeah. As long as someone is making music you don't like, it's metal. That it? There's significant differences between the various metal genres, as with most other genres as well. It's not because people make their own genres (well, some bands define new genres because their music is so different from everyone else's music) that we have sub-genres, but because people are pretty good at making different music. It would be rather boring if everyone made the same kind of music, for instance the Tetris Theme - if all music was the Tetris Theme, and the only difference was what instruments were played and how the band members looked and behaved, then I .. I don't know, it just sounds too horrid.
 
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Metal bands just like to give their music an own genre. There are probably hundreds of "sub-genres", black metal, death metal, dark metal, heavy metal ... they are actually all the same.

They're not all the same, you got symphonic metal which is metal with hints of opera in it, f.ex the vocalist is an opera singer. Example: Nightwish and Kamelot (Norwegian singer in Kamelot :D). Black Metal, Death Metal and Heavy Metal are pretty similar, but those are very few out of hundreds of other sub-genres of metal.

These are a few of them:

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Australian War Metal

Also referred to as Satanic war metal or simply as war metal and originating from Australia, it is characterized by a fusion of death metal rhythm section with 1980s thrash-style guitar riffs and vocals, particularly influenced by European thrash bands such as Sodom, Kreator and Coroner. The style also borrows its image and lyrical themes from early Black metal. Exponents of Australian war metal include Bestial Warlust, Destroyer 666 & Gospel Of The Horns.

Baroque Metal

Soft metal with a high influence from baroque musicians such as Johann Sebastian Bach. The best example is Alex Masi.

Black Metal

Considered to be the most extreme subgenre of metal. The genre has its origins in early thrash/speed metal and is often (but not always) characterised by Satanic or occult lyrical themes, usually 'screamed' out rather than sang. Venom and Bathory are credited with pioneering the genre. Other notable black metal artist include Darkthrone, Immortal, Emperor, Satyricon and Mayhem.

Blues Rock

Most important early heavy metal performers were rooted solidly in blues rock: Jimi Hendrix, Cream, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin.

Christian Metal

This category can be any style of metal featuring explicitly Christian lyrics or themes. Examples include Stryper and Mortification.

Circus Metal

Incorporates circus or carnival elements in music or performances. See Mr. Bungle, Dog Fashion Disco, Secret Chiefs 3, Vicious Hairy Mary, Headkase and Darth Vegas.

Comedy Metal

Features pronounced humor and comedy. Comedy metal may have been unwittingly created by the film This Is Spinal Tap in the mid 1980s. Besides Spinal Tap, other comedians parodying metal have included UK project Bad News (featuring comedians from The Young Ones) and US comedian Bob Rivers. Comedy metal has also been created by metal musicians themselves, with some achieving commercial success (most notably Green Jelly and Scatterbrain). Comedy metal can be varied in humour, from being blatantly offensive and politically incorrect (such as Anal Cunt and Pungent Stench), to more middle of the road humour (such as Canadian band Zimmer's Hole and GWAR).

Death Metal

An extreme style of metal with low-pitched guitars and growling, often incomprehensible vocals. Lyrical themes of early death metal often centered around gore horror (hence the term), although the genre has since diversified. Examples Bolt Thrower, Mortification, Death, Morbid Angel, Deicide and Entombed. Also see Melodic death metal.

Doom Metal

Inspired largely by the lumbering dirges and stoned, paranoid darkness of Black Sabbath, and one of the very few heavy metal subgenres to prize feel and mood more than flashy technique, doom metal bands include Candlemass, Cathedral and Anathema.

Epic Metal

Incorporates high fantasy and related elements. Examples of epic metal include Manowar, Virgin Steele, Cirith Ungol, Omen, Medieval Steel, Bathory, DoomSword.

Extreme Metal

Not a specific genre but a broader definition of some heavier and aggressive styles of metal including black metal, death metal, doom metal, grindcore, hardcore and thrash metal.

Folk Metal

A style incorporates folk music instruments or themes. Skyclad is probably the most known band in this genre. See Subway To Sally and In Extremo.

Gore Metal

Subgenre that bases most lyrical inspiration on gore/horror and anything to be considered macabre and "Dark Taboo", Generally revolving around something sickening. Bands linked with this subgenre include: Mortician, Exhumed and quite obvious from the band-name Cannibal Corpse.

Goth Metal

A fusion of the bleak, icy atmospherics of goth rock with the loud guitars and aggression of heavy metal, finding the middle ground between the two styles in a melodramatic sense of theater and lyrical obsessions with religion and horror. Bands include Theatre Of Tragedy, Paradise Lost, Lacrimosa, Tristania, My Dying Bride and Type O Negative.

Grindcore

Influenced by thrash metal, and also hardcore and punk, that takes its name from the "grinding" sound made by the atonal riffs 'grinding' into one another. The style is characterized by a vocal style similar to death metal, rapid fire "blast beats" from double-kick drums and short songs. Exponents of the genre include Napalm Death (regarded as pioneers of the style), Carcass and Extreme Noise Terror.

Grunge Metal

Sometimes seen as distinct from grunge itself, although combining elements of both grunge and metal. Prominent grunge metal acts include Alice In Chains and King's X.

Hair Metal

Also referred to as glam metal or cock rock, it was a commercially popular style of metal in the 1980s. It features feel good anthems and flashy costumes. Bands include Mötley Crüe, Ratt, Skid Row, Poison, Dokken, Greg Howe, Vixen and Cinderella.

Hard Rock

A progression from blues rock and early psychedelia and a precursor to heavy metal. It was pioneered in the mid to late 1960s by artist such as Jimi Hendrix and Steppenwolf, with British bands such as Led Zeppelin, Cream and Free developing it further. It is hard to distinguish hard rock from early heavy metal, some artist such as Deep Purple, Thin Lizzy, Queen and AC/DC fall into both styles.

Hardcore

Originating as extreme and chaotic version of punk rock but crossed over into Heavy metal due to its similarities in heaviness and aggression. It was also a pivotal influence to thrash metal and later grindcore and Metalcore. Some artists, most notably Suicidal Tendencies and D.R.I. crossed over styles from hardcore to heavy metal. Other notable hardcore acts include Bad Brains, Agnostic Front, Black Flag and Minor Threat.

Ice Metal

Incorporates sounds, imagery and themes related to ice zones, specifically Scandinavia. See Sonata Arctica.

Industrial Metal

Features elements of dance music, techno, and heavy, distorted guitars. Synthesizers and drum machines are heavily used in this sub-genre. Well known industrial metal acts include Marilyn Manson, Ministry, Rob Zombie/White Zombie, Fear Factory and Rammstein.

Math Metal <-- MATH <3 :D

This term was reportedly coined by Mudvayne frontman Chüd, and features bands such as Meshuggah and the noisy, grindcore and jazz influenced band by the name The Dillinger Escape Plan.

Melodic Death Metal

An offshoot of death metal, featuring melodic guitar riffs (sometimes acoustic), and in some examples occasional 'clean' singing. Death and Morbid Angel are primary influences of the genre, which has been developed further by predominately Swedish bands such as Entombed, At The Gates, Opeth, In Flames and Katatonia.

Metalcore

This style is a fusion between hardcore and thrash Metal. Notable metalcore artists include Hatebreed and Killswitch Engage.

Neo-Classical Metal

Incorporates elements or melodies from classical music, especially works by Johann Sebastian Bach, Antonio Vivaldi and Niccolo Paganini. Yngwie J. Malmsteen is a perhaps known proponent of this branch of metal, classical elements were used in heavy metal and hard rock date back to Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple and Eddie Van Halen's innovations in the late 1970s.

New Wave Of British Heavy Metal

Often abbreviated as NWOBHM, the term is used to describe British metal artists that emerged in the late 1970s/early 1980s in the wake of the 'original wave' of British metal artist such as Black Sabbath and Deep Purple. NWOBHM was hugely popular and is influential to virtually all sub-genres of heavy metal since. Major artists included Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Def Leppard, Saxon and Diamond Head.

Nu Metal

Features a pronounced hip hop influence, and guitar technique is often different from "traditional metal." Some argue nu-metal is a misnomer, stating the genre has very little to do with heavy metal. See Korn, Papa Roach, Staind, Slipknot, Orgy, Drowning Pool, Machine Head and Limp Bizkit.

Opera Metal <-- Correction: Symphonic Metal

A genre of metal including operatic vocals. An example would be Nightwish.

Oriental Metal

A sub-sub genre of death metal and incorporating influences from Jewish tradition and eastern music. See Salem and Orphaned Land.

Party Metal <-- I actually didn't know about this genre D:

Also referred to as Pop metal, it features lyrics celebrating drinking, rock or metal music, sex, and related topics. The style often overlaps hair metal and hard rock. Notable artists include Cheap Trick, Van Halen, Queen, KISS, Quiet Riot, Twisted Sister, Andrew WK and some Judas Priest ("Living After Midnight", "Heading Out To The Highway," "Hot Rockin").

Power Metal

Features fantasy or science fiction themes. The most famous bands include Helloween, Blind Guardian and Hammerfall, all of them continental European, and Jag Panzer coming from the US.

Progressive Metal

Combining elements of progressive rock and heavy metal. See Dream Theater, Symphony X, Stratovarius and DragonForce.

Speed Metal

Speed metal has its origins in the New Wave Of British Heavy Metal with bands such as Motorhead, Raven, Venom, Iron Maiden and Judas Priest often combining heavy metal with the speed of punk rock. The style often overlaps Thrash metal, although speed metal is regarded as being more melodic. Other notable speed metal acts include Watchtower and Racer X.

Stoner Metal

Also referred to as stoner rock, it overlaps with doom metal, and features heavy, sometimes slow and sludgily distorted riffs and the obvious influence of psychedelic music and more importantly the 1970s fuzz-distorted metal of Black Sabbath and Budgie. Exponents of the genre include Cathedral, Kyuss, Queens Of The Stone Age, Nebula, Fu Manchu and Monster Magnet.

Synth Metal

Soft form of metal strongly influenced by the sounds, forms and fashion of the 80's Synth pop, with synthethizers as predominant instruments and guitars only used in a clean, brilliant, bright way, in a second place. Best examples but not the only ones, are Sonata Arctica, Royal Hunt, Dark Moor, Wampas and Final Fight.

Thrash Metal

Incorporated hardcore punk's speed with traditional metal. Slayer, Overkill and early Metallica and Megadeth. As is true for many of the terms in this list, the moniker "thrash metal" was not always embraced by its supposed representatives; early on, Metallica referred to themselves as "power metal" (conflicting with the above definition of this term). Conversely, many more or less obscure bands, like Kreator, came up with equally obscure classifications for themselves, such as hate metal. Such labels were often soon forgotten or reused for something else. It was not the big four, it was actually the big five, Megadeth, Slayer, Exodus, Pantera, and Metallica.

True Metal

This term was coined back in the 1980s by US band Manowar, but came into wider use in the 1990s, when genres such as alternative metal and nu metal began to emerge to distinguish more "traditional" styles such as power metal.

SID Metal

A recent genre of metal which uses a SID chip. The Swedish band Machinae Supremacy is said to be the founder of this genre.

Vedic Metal

Was reportedly started by Indian band Rudra which combined death metal with eastern spiritual and folk elements to create a totally new genre called Vedic metal. Other groups include Canyon and Supremo from India, Hellraiser from Thailand and Brisko from Indonesia.

Viking Metal

Pioneered by Bathory, this is music including Viking-themed lyrics, and sometimes acoustic guitars and folk instruments. See also Thyrfing and Falkenbach.
 
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Sure. All the same. Yeah. As long as someone is making music you don't like, it's metal. That it? There's significant differences between the various metal genres, as with most other genres as well. It's not because people make their own genres (well, some bands define new genres because their music is so different from everyone else's music) that we have sub-genres, but because people are pretty good at making different music. It would be rather boring if everyone made the same kind of music, for instance the Tetris Theme - if all music was the Tetris Theme, and the only difference was what instruments were played and how the band members looked and behaved, then I .. I don't know, it just sounds too horrid.

Interesting arguement! Almost perfectly eliminates the (c)rap statement from earlier. :p Though I must say I completely agree with you.
 

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I'd just like to point out that, in addition to eyeing the difference, the important thing is that he should be hearing the distinct musical picture.
 
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well, I might be wrong in some cases when I say that EVERY sub-genre of metal is the same. Tru, there are differents in various of them ... but let's replace that "every" with "many". Nuff said.

@shiiK

when I combine this comment ...
Sure. All the same. Yeah. As long as someone is making music you don't like, it's metal. That it? [...]
with this one ...
You're making the wrong music, Norwegians make black metal, not (c)rap.
Lemme just throw it back to you - as long as someone is making music you don't like, it's rap. That it?
I'd say you fail.
 
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P.S. Stop with the metal, this is not what the thread's intention was, neither it's polite towards Megafyr :S

This

Also, something I just realized, you have a faggish voice. No offence, but you do. You could make that work though, using that T-pain effect you probably know. I think you use FL, ammirite?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8FKzls_UDE
Play around with it... you don't want it to sound exactly like t pain right? :p
This might help you out. Don't do it if you don't want though :D
 
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Oh, please, stop with the insults Devine. We all know you envy everybody, but choose to cover it up by insulting them.

@xxdingo93xx, what he meant by wrong music in that post wasn't that rap is wrong music, but it's wrong in Norway since we're known for the metal.
 
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He never said "I think", he said it as a fact.... you should learn to read, and yes, even telling such an opinion is ignorant, don't you support a beginner? Kid.

Now, let's be honest, how many times can you find 'I think' in an opinion on the internet?
Harsh criticism is the best criticism, even though this isn't exactly the best example.
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Why are you calling everyone you don't like 'kid' ?
 
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This

Also, something I just realized, you have a faggish voice. No offence, but you do. You could make that work though, using that T-pain effect you probably know. I think you use FL, ammirite?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8FKzls_UDE
Play around with it... you don't want it to sound exactly like t pain right? :p
This might help you out. Don't do it if you don't want though :D

Oh, that video looks interesting. :D
 
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To tell you something: Criticsm is per definition: To point someone on something he did wrong. I looked it even up in a dictionary for the definition... now get your informations right. Constructive criticsm would include a hint on what he can improve ;).

Actually, if you wouldve looked at what I said and interpret it, you would know that I pointed him what he should improve... maybe... if someone would've intellect equal to 13 year old kid he would understand that I simply meant he shouldn't form the criticsm so harsh, because he is an beginner... but whatever.
 

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well, I might be wrong in some cases when I say that EVERY sub-genre of metal is the same. Tru, there are differents in various of them ... but let's replace that "every" with "many". Nuff said.

@shiiK

when I combine this comment ...

with this one ...

Lemme just throw it back to you - as long as someone is making music you don't like, it's rap. That it?
I'd say you fail.

You generalized metal, saying it's all the same, while I merely stated the obvious. Besides, there's multiple genres that I don't like, I don't nickname Techno as Rap simply because I dislike both.

Lastly, hardly any metal sub-genre sounds the same as another, so "many" is still overly exaggerated. Even one sub-genre sounds widely different if the band is European compared to American. I'm sure there are different genres of Rap as well, but perhaps that's your source of indifferent sub-genres for all I know.
 
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You generalized metal, saying it's all the same, while I merely stated the obvious. Besides, there's multiple genres that I don't like, I don't nickname Techno as Rap simply because I dislike both.

Lastly, hardly any metal sub-genre sounds the same as another, so "many" is still overly exaggerated. Even one sub-genre sounds widely different if the band is European compared to American. I'm sure there are different genres of Rap as well, but perhaps that's your source of indifferent sub-genres for all I know.
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/me stops this drama.
 
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