The Ultimate Hellmouth <v4.6.2>

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Make a surprised face: I lied to you.

But this time I do a real comeback and this map will get a new version.Some functions are broken a bit in 4.4. That's my bad. Ill definitely fix it.
And you will get everything I listed above + some balance change + new staff (it's good, Ill promise)

I MAY even add a new game mod, that's directed into 1x1 gameplay. Playing 1x1 is quite boring, I always knew that. And I finally came with an idea how to fix that and change game rules a lot for that.


Expect it to be released in 1-1,5 months, not later next year.


Anyone who is wondering what that map is, GRAB your boys, read some rules, and give it a try. Might be the most original map you will ever play.

 

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Gonna upload a bugfixed verion 4.4a, today or tomorrow. No big changes, just bugs and little balance tweaks.

 

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4.6 will have reworked wins conditions (wont include in 4.5 coz it's already full of stuff).

DREADLORDS: If you manage to kill 80% of citizens, your primal focus is now to destroy Paladins Obelisk. All undead units (AI units) get attack and movement speed boost, and Dreadlords get Dead Lightning spell (drains movement and attack speed of enemy gradually for 5 secs).

PALADINS: If you manage to survive for 33 mins, machines will come up from the south west of the map, willing to destroy Undead Grave (the thing Dreadlords starts the game at). Machines do massive damage explosions and has massive hp. Paladins get the Holy Bolt ability (strike and stun everyone in a line).

Note that both conditions might happen at the same game, there wont be any restrictions.

I've carried that idea for a long time. It will work perfectly fine (thought it might require some terrain changes for good reasons), because current goal are just lame and feels unfinished.

It might mark the day I would finally finish the map idea.

 

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Somebody told me the world is gonna roll me
Someone told me that there should be a mount/dismount system for team Paladin, as they tend to walk around big map like fools.
I guess HOTS like system will work just fine, BUT I believe it may cost me removing many custom Paladin models and replacing everyone with the same one.


Should I actually do that? IMHO it sounds good.

 

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Info update: since I want this map to be played on 1.26 too, and because of strange stupid restrictions on 1,26 engine, mount system for Paladins would have restrictions, like being mounted won't allow paladin to use any skills and items. Feel sorry for that, because it would be much better without that restrictions, that's stupid, but, there's no other way.

Info update v2: i actually did find a way. Gosh, its so cursed, but it does work. So nevermind what I said before!

 

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4.5 is gonna be uploaded soon, maybe this Sunday. If you plan to try this map, I suggest waiting for 4.5, it has many new features for team Paladin.

 

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The Mount system has been added in 4.5. I got pretty tired of Paladins immobility. Works like HOTS system, but with tweaks.

(Screenshot above: one of the new upgrades in a game. Sorry, has broken description when clicked, will fix later)

 

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The most problematic part of this game, win conditions, will be reworked in the next update 4.6 Expect huge additions in the win conditions and 1VS1 game mode.
Might be the last update, so Ill try to polish this game as much as possible.
I will also add new items, rework in-game descriptions and gameplay information to be more clear, and probably add new upgrades

Might take a while, but promise to release it within december.

Tried a map? Tell me about your expierience and bugs encountered.

 

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Glad to tell that new win conditions are done, and they should work pretty well! Hell yeah, I'm finally feeling relieved with map idea, it just feels like the gameplay idea of it is WHOLE, not just some representation of a game.

I may release it here without some additional context, may postpone it to make 4.7

Because want to share with 4.6 next Sunday! That's the day.

 

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HELLO.

In next 10-12 hours Ill upload 4.6, and leave a link to youtube demonstration gameplay (4x4).

Some people had genius fun playing it, so Im feeling relieved hearing that.
At the bad side, I encountered an evil bug that make Paladin "vanish" from memory (that means he cant either respawn or use skills properly).
IDK why this is happening, its very rare but it may happen, it will take some time for me to find out how is it happening.

If you encounter such bug, please let me know and share with me your saved replay!

 

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Sorry for being liar, I almost forgot about bugs to fix. So tomorrow is the day

 

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Uploaded 4.6
Forgot to change the line "Paladins win in.." to "steam tanks arrive in..", so don't be confused.


If you are single playing it and playing as Paladin, type"-undeadarmytt" to summon the undead squad at map to have some enjoyment.

If you have friends to play, try to make at least 3x3 game.


I'll continue to support the map and update it for a while, though not sure for how long.

 

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So, you might notice 4.6.1 wasn't released there. I have not tested it in multiplayer so I had some doubts about releasing it on hiveworkshop.


4.6.2 suggest some life improvements and balance changes.

All I actually plan to do right now is to add new upgrades. I'm out of any other ideas.

I noticed that people are well tempted to play long enough as Dreadlords, there are little % of players that abandons the game for the first 10-15 mins. But Paladins has more %. Im actually curious what I'm able to do. Especially for the first minutes.

I dont have any "mounted" version for Mountain King, Blood mage, or "unmounted for Archimage, to release them as possible hero pick for the 1 team.

Nevertheless, there might be a possibility to let picking a neutral hero (alcemist, brewmaster, firelord). It wont break game rules if there would be only 1 player able to switch paladin to neutral, but I do wonder how to implement it good.

 

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Hello-mouth my friends

I did a huge amount of work in the last 2 weeks. I ran a lot of multiplayer runs and got some feedback I turned into ideas and reworks.

I already made 4.6.8 at this time, meaning yeah, huge things were added

Why I dont upload it here? Because I translated it to Russian fan base. Yes. I got some attention there so people asked to translate it

And I decided to some more updates before I translate it back to english and will have 2 different localization of this map.

Keep track the news! Before 15 january Ill surely upload Hellmouth here.

 

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I did lie to you again. I was too busy working on new content and reworks. Anyway, I had a pretty doubttful politic meaning I used to upload new versions here over and over that could have broken the balance or game mechanics completely. Sure Ill update hellmouth here someday, and all the things I said means you will get a stable version, but as for now Im still working on a new stuff and do not want to copy map at 2 different version for now.

 

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Glad to announce Im gonna stick for a new version for while, so once I finish it in 1-2 weak , Ill take the time to translate it back into english.
Once translated, there wont be new updates for a WHILE. I will be busy at work for next 2 months

My map got attention from the russian community, so dear hiveworkshopers, give this map a new chance this time.

 

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Sorry my friend, I just dont see a reason to translate it back into english right now.

I still add some content into the map, and most of all, I'm looking for a way to improve Paladin's gameplay graudally. There is currently much more troubles to win as Paladins rather than DreadLords. DreadLords team sucked ass for a long time, and in the way making their gameplay more accesable, I changed many rules on the map. It made Paladin's team life much harder, so now Im currently developing new ways to improve their life too.