The Adventures of Rowan the Wise v4.5

[Alexandru3090]

Guess this campaign had some potential. I certainly liked the reworked/augumented hero spells and I certainly appreciate the effort poured into making it. It could've featured some new or reworked units as well, instead of using the regular/vanilla ones. Since it didn't, the gameplay was pretty standard; most of the models were also standard. All good, nonetheless. I also liked the music, the voice acting (even though it's not very professional, the effort is commendable), and the ambition to create an alternate timeline in the Warcraft universe.

What I really disliked about this campaign, however, and why I'm not generous with the stars, is the goofy take on it + the lore inconsistencies. I don't understand why you'd ruin such a promising campaign with out of place silliness...because to me (and to others) that just kills it. At first I thought the campaign is serious, and I was really into it, but once I saw the mentally retarded Uther, and then Antonidas with the portal, I kinda lost all incentive to play. The lore discrepancies and even the inconsistencies within Rowan's own storyline also bothered me quite a lot. If you create an alternate timeline, you should follow through and do it right.

I hope the sequels are better than this, and without any goofy "jokes".

EDIT - I'm giving it 4 stars after processing it better.

PROS
- the potential of the campaign
- nice cinematics/cutscenes (if you ignore the obnoxious, goofy dialogues)
- augumented hero abilities
- diverse, fun and rather challenging missions
- great items (really liked the Spellbook)
- the Dwarven faction (really liked the Shieldbreakers)
- the ambition to create an alternate timeline

CONS
- obnoxious "silly" take on everything. Couldn't stand the goofy dialogues, the mentally retarded Uther, the prick Antonidas, the Draenai "Idiots", the Blood Elves addicted to blood, Nathan the Mountain King (his voice acting gave me an aneurysm), etc.
- massive lore discrepancies and inconsistencies
- dozens of holes in the plot and further discrepancies within Rowan's own storyline/timeline
- incoherent and chaotic progression of events; everything seems to whirlwind beyond understanding, yet none of the characters seem surprised, confused or even look into what is happening.
For example, Maiev shows up in Lordaeron and tells Uther to kill all villagers. Why? And no one investigates. The Night Elves are referred to as strange visitors or something, and you can kill them and destroy their base, and that's it. They make no further appearance in the campaign and no one seems to have wondered for one second who they were, how they got there or what they were after. Arthas appears in a cutscene in the second mission, and then he just shows up a few days later as a Death Knight with an Undead army, which is impossible, especially when it is said that he traveled to Northrend from where he planned the invasion and launched it.
What I am trying to say is that no explanation is given as to how anything happened, or when, and none of the characters are interested when they should be. They just move on, and you're being dragged along with them into the massive confusion of this campaign. I could go on forever about this... I guess the creator of the campaign simply expected a certain amount of familiarity with the lore and the main characters on behalf of the player, so he just skipped any exposure.

Like I've already stated, this campaign has potential, and I believe it can be greatly improved by taking out the voice acting, the dumb, goofy jokes, and by fixing the lore and storyline inconsistencies. Some real exposure to the storyline is also badly needed. And also some more character interactions, like Rowan actually talking to Maiev to at least learn why she was there, and where she came from. The potential is all there.

 

[DarkRanger2]

Why the Voicez actor of bevan ( The one with the sexy voice ) Is Anonymous ? WHY DO YOU PUT ME IN SO MUCH PAIN ?! WHY ?!

( Or his name IS Anonymous ! )

 

[Darth Manu]

Is there a guide that tells us where to find the legendary itens on hard? 'Cause it's frustrating to face this on hard and don't find all of them...

 

[Turnro]

Why the Voicez actor of bevan ( The one with the sexy voice ) Is Anonymous ? WHY DO YOU PUT ME IN SO MUCH PAIN ?! WHY ?!

( Or his name IS Anonymous ! )

His game name is Anonymous

Is there a guide that tells us where to find the legendary itens on hard? 'Cause it's frustrating to face this on hard and don't find all of them...

I know how you feel. I have been waiting a long time for someone to create such a guide, since it would look weird if I did it :/

 

[DarkRanger2]

His game name is Anonymous

Didn't found him. e_e

 

[This is my Hammer]

Is there a guide that tells us where to find the legendary itens on hard? 'Cause it's frustrating to face this on hard and don't find all of them...

Which ones are you looking for? Most of them are pretty intuitive if you have slight experience finding secrets

 

[This is my Hammer]

Why the Voicez actor of bevan ( The one with the sexy voice ) Is Anonymous ? WHY DO YOU PUT ME IN SO MUCH PAIN ?! WHY ?!

( Or his name IS Anonymous ! )

It's freaky that you would take the time to post that comment, whether or not you are cat fishing.

 

[kamukag3e]

@Darth Manu:
I record a first person video of the whole campaign on hard, but have to put some commentaries over it.
Perhaps could benchmark the secret items or just cut and edit it on a whole new video but the whole process will take a lot of time.

 

[arthas rko]

Very bad

 

[DarkRanger2]

Calm down Arthas, we know you always play the bad guy in campaign, that's because you're a bad guy.
Yuo shouldn't have taken that blade, yes.

 

[Kazakh]

What the fuck Uther

 

[Svetli]

What the fuck Uther

Yeah, from so much hard work he went crazy.

 

[Ahman]

Yeah, from so much hard work he went crazy.

he was like "ME SMASH U" "ME NOT CARE" hahahahaha
this campaign was more like a funny than serious one, but the rest appear to be serious alltogether

 

[Cowboy_Fang]

Uh, I killed the draenei base, all the units I could see
But I can't complete the mission???

 

[kamukag3e]

@Cowboy_Fang:
After clearing the base, you have to move all of your heroes to the end of the path (a tunnel blocked with some rocks).

 

[Turnro]

@Cowboy_Fang:
After clearing the base, you have to move all of your heroes to the end of the path (a tunnel blocked with some rocks).

I think he's referring to the destroying base objective. Some draenei have permanent invisibility, so they don't appear on the mini-map and will only attack you if you go near them. I'll have this fixed in the next patch.

 

[kamukag3e]

@Turnro:
Didn't think about that. Perhaps making the objective building related ?

 

[Cowboy_Fang]

I think he's referring to the destroying base objective. Some draenei have permanent invisibility, so they don't appear on the mini-map and will only attack you if you go near them. I'll have this fixed in the next patch.

He is correct. And you could make it as easy as making the far sight orb item buyable/findable or dust of appearance.

Since I have your attention, I am more than a little curious... I picked this campaign up maybe 4 days ago. Why did you decide to ignore the lore, reduce half of the most powerful and important lore characters of WC3 into retarded, selfish, vain jokes? And making your OC the hero of the story is understandable, but he's instantly the best paladin? There's people way ahead of him in the paladin order even without Uther

 

[Turnro]

Since I have your attention, I am more than a little curious... I picked this campaign up maybe 4 days ago. Why did you decide to ignore the lore, reduce half of the most powerful and important lore characters of WC3 into retarded, selfish, vain jokes? And making your OC the hero of the story is understandable, but he's instantly the best paladin? There's people way ahead of him in the paladin order even without Uther

You should know that The Adventures of Rowan the Wise is a parody campaign and its story should not be taken seriously. I am also not a dire-hard Warcraft lore fan as it limits the amount of creativity I have as a campagin maker.

Regardless, whether or not you enjoyed this campagin is your choice.

 

[Ahman]

Sylvanes in chapter 7 is so overpowered. She can solo the whole elven army, because her drain ability steals so much hp, and its like her ultimate is 0 cd, because every fight she steals 5-7 of my troops. The only way is to defend using Rowan and Logan + his phoenix.
I think it should be weakened in the next patch, if there will be. Also, currently for all those who wanna acquire swiftwalker boots, i found a way.
simply make two groups of knights with a few riflemen and priests. Aim The necropolis only, the acolytes will try to repair it, use holy light, and riflemen to wipe them out. After you destroy it, simply take it quick and run away. The acolytes will immediately reconstruct another one, but you will have got what you wanted. That's all

 

[kamukag3e]

@Ahman:
In chapter 7 you as suggested can hold the whole enemy force and their hero with 2 heroes alone, who do you think is more overpowered ?
Keeping her silenced with items will ensure she doesn't sustain herself with Life Drain and won't be a problem to nuke her down (Banish increase your Holy Light damage against Undead, and she doesn't attack while Banished).

 

[Ahman]

@kamukag3e :
Oh yes, you are absolutely right. Maybe it's the other way around. Maybe Rowan and Logan are the overpowered compared to Sylvanes alone.
And yes, silence helps to stop her drain ability, also stealing her mana with Logan's third skill proved quite good against her, as she would not have enough mana to drain health. I struggled a bit early game, but later on its easy to deal with her.

 

[kamukag3e]

Also, it's AI exploit (which Turnro said he would try to fix), to kill Acolytes and focus the Necropolis with air unit if possible. Air units (especially Flying Machines) have better mobility and area per damage - meaning they need less time to start doing damage, giving less time for the enemy army to catch-up and needing less time to get in position and start doing damage.

After the main building and all the building units are down, shredding the base one building at a time is not so hard, because it won't be repaired or rebuild. Any production building destroyed will reduce the speed at which the enemy units are created making it gradually easier and easier. Especially if you use only strong units (even only hero) and not losing anything while inflicting damage will overtime result in easy way to clear the whole base little by little.

 

[wc3gobbo]

10/10

 

[WTFliio]

The campaign is good, the features for me is awesome... if you can try to have some new simple Warcraft models. Try to make the audio/dialougue of the unit's soundset better and clearer. Or try to find anohter Soundset source... But for me, well 20/10

 

[crescent20]

Through tedious work and a lot of time and effort lol

When I originally made that base, it was intended to be a base you're not meant to attack. A couple of years ago, someone suggested that the legendary item should be a reward you get for destroying the base. I listened to this suggestion, and I later regretted it.

I will be doing an update soon that will fix up a lot of issues, including changing the location of the legendary item. When available, you no longer have to destroy the undead green base other than for the satisfaction of destroying it.

Has the update you mention been uploaded?

I started this campaign recently and have enjoyed it greatly. My personal style is to play a mission on normal mode to learn the map first, then again on hard mode before advancing the Campaign. I have completed the Blizzard Campaigns on Hard mode, but am unable to beat the Green Undead base in Chapter 4 on hard mode. I can get the Boots of Quel'Thalas from the Black Citadel on normal mode, so I assume the change hasn't yet been made.

I totally understand and accept the design choice of an unbeatable foe, to harass the player, or channel them into a different course of action. In this case the main quest is to rescue survivors and help them escape, not fight a battle of attrition. Makes perfect sense in this scenario.

Honestly, I am more interested in collecting all the Legendary Items, which is why I am wondering if you have changed the location of the item yet? A yes or no answer is all I am looking for, I do not want to know the the exact location you move it to.

I am playing through your campaigns in order. Although I enjoyed your Horde and Scourge campaigns, this one is better than both of them together. Looking forward to finishing it, and moving on to Malfurion's Quest.

 

[Turnro]

Has the update you mention been uploaded?

I started this campaign recently and have enjoyed it greatly. My personal style is to play a mission on normal mode to learn the map first, then again on hard mode before advancing the Campaign. I have completed the Blizzard Campaigns on Hard mode, but am unable to beat the Green Undead base in Chapter 4 on hard mode. I can get the Boots of Quel'Thalas from the Black Citadel on normal mode, so I assume the change hasn't yet been made.

I totally understand and accept the design choice of an unbeatable foe, to harass the player, or channel them into a different course of action. In this case the main quest is to rescue survivors and help them escape, not fight a battle of attrition. Makes perfect sense in this scenario.

Honestly, I am more interested in collecting all the Legendary Items, which is why I am wondering if you have changed the location of the item yet? A yes or no answer is all I am looking for, I do not want to know the the exact location you move it to.

I am playing through your campaigns in order. Although I enjoyed your Horde and Scourge campaigns, this one is better than both of them together. Looking forward to finishing it, and moving on to Malfurion's Quest.

The update has not been brought out yet, although I have been working on it occasionally. You will be happy to know that this campaign will be patched over the next month or so, which will include several gameplay fixes and balance changes. This includes the location of the legendary item in Chapter 4, where you will not have to destroy the undead base in order to acquire it.

Other then that, thanks for playing the series so far and I hope you enjoy Malfurion's Quest

 

[crescent20]

Thanks for replying. I am definitely looking forward to the update, even though I haven't found any bugs. I know many people seem to complain about the grammar, or the characters behaving outside of cannon, but those things don't bother me. My only complaint is that I personally do not like tower defense games, at all. Since your Horde mission 10, and Rowan mission 5 are both of this sort (Horde 10 more so than Rowan 5), I enjoyed them least of all... but still loved the overall Horde campaign, and will definitely play through Rowan a second time after the update. Thank you for some great campaigns!

 

[Alexandru3090]

Hey @Turnro, I just had a gaming marathon where I (re-)played all your campaigns, from Rowan's Adventures to Malfurion's Quest. Really looking forward to the full version of MQ BTW.

Do you think you'll ever remake Rowan to be more in line with its sequels? Because all the other campaigns in the series have a far more serious tone.

 

[Turnro]

Hey @Turnro, I just had a gaming marathon where I (re-)played all your campaigns, from Rowan's Adventures to Malfurion's Quest. Really looking forward to the full version of MQ BTW.

Do you think you'll ever remake Rowan to be more in line with its sequels? Because all the other campaigns in the series have a far more serious tone.

Hi Alexandru3090, thanks for playing my campaigns

I don't have any intentions on remaking The Adventures of Rowan the Wise since it was designed to be a parody campaign. However, I am currently working on Malfurion's Quest and may remaster my other campaigns depending on the demand and support from the community.

I have also read your other posts and have seen your suggestion about the dialogues being improved. If you could elaborate more and explain which sections need improving, I can work to improve the dialogues in the future.

 

[Alexandru3090]

I have also read your other posts and have seen your suggestion about the dialogues being improved. If you could elaborate more and explain which sections need improving, I can work to improve the dialogues in the future.

I would have to replay all cutscenes. I remember noticing a few typos here and there and a few lines that would sound better if rephrased.

 

[god1ess]

I just finished playing this campaign (Hard Mode) again after doing it 4 years ago. There was some noticable changes, for example i don't remember basic base building in Chapter 2 being so intense (in a good way, i certainly didn't expect to fail 3 times at building base..). The gameplay was just as good as i remember as it's your strongest suit in making campaigns.

If i had to nitpick few things :
- I hate QWERTY style hotkey, it must have been implemented later because i don't remember it? I got used to hero spells after a while but the buildings didn't need to to simplified into that.

- I know it's a mock-up campaign but Nathan's voice seriously could use redo...

- In the Interlude after Chapter 9, Rowan says "we are humanity's only hope for survival" to all Lordaeron armies. Was it intended to line as humans are very arrogant in Warcraft universe? If not in my opinion he should say "we are Lordaeron's only hope for survival"

- In Chapter 9, at the end "Faceless Overlord" was too weak. I mean he was weaker than many foes in this campaign, he should cause some trouble imo.

Now moving into next one

 

[HappyTauren]

Currently in the dungeon with Rowan and Tara. I bought ivory towers in the previous mission, but one of them is left on my hero. I don't think it should be possible to carry Ivory Tower item out of that level, it can probably produce some weird bugs down the line. Make sure before saving the hero to carry him over, that none of the heroes have Ivory Tower in their inventory. Else, you can abuse the ivory tower + teleport.

Also, one more thing about the dungeon level - having the paladin + another hero is awkward, when that hero is a ranged int hero. The reason for this is that it is ACTUALLY OPTIMAL to have Tara tank instead of the paladin, because as paladin, you can heal her, but she can't heal you as a mage.

So the ideal way to play this level is to have Tara and her Water Elementals tank all the damage while you heal them (healing summoned units is already bad enough so Tara should tank) and this is reeeeally awkward.

Alright, finished the campaign, I must say it is one of my favorites. It's also really funny and doesn't try to take itself very seriously.

5/5

 

[namahc]

Great campaign, loved the humor, props to the creator.

Bugs or things that could improve :

In the cave level, I ported onto a mouse and couldn't port back the other side, kinda stupid to strat again just for that :/

In the last map, Arthas forces wiped my base but they didn't destroy my buildings in the path to the creeps. (Why is the creeps again if they only drop bad items and my heroes are maxed out?) I had also buildings in the forest that I harvest and AI didn't finish the job, that gave me time to rebuild and finaly win 1 hour later. Small Bbug but I think it was inteded to fail the mission once you lost a base :/

Finally, I disliked having OP heroes, it disminished the Macro part of the aspect of building a strong army. All I did alot of the time was to use only heroes and leave troops in base to defend cause they died to quickly.

Otherwise fantastic job. 5/5

 

[kamukag3e]

@namahc:

In the cave level, I ported onto a mouse and couldn't port back the other side, kinda stupid to strat again just for that :/

You can leave elemental behind, but even without it - you can always summon a unit (in and out) of a place like that by proper position of your heroes - making them close all the places around your summoner and the 'nearest' open space detected by the game on the other side of the obstacle you want your unit to pop-up.

Finally, I disliked having OP heroes, it disminished the Macro part of the aspect of building a strong army. All I did alot of the time was to use only heroes and leave troops in base to defend cause they died to quickly.

Completely agree with you, most of the missions were basically my heroes clearing everything while amassing resources, upgrades and army (on low upkeep for defense only) home and chipping the enemy base/units which are not rebuild. And then go to 100 limit with a good composition for the mission and clear the objective in one fell swoop.

 

[Turnro]

Hey guys! The Adventures of Rowan the Wise v4.4 is now live, bringing you several changes such as bug fixes and gameplay improvements. You can read the specific changes brought in this patch below:

Version 4.4

- Divine Shield now grants spell immunity to Rowan when activated
- Reworked Divine Shield to now last 15 seconds across all levels. Additional levels will instead grant reduced mana cost and cooldown
- Fixed a bug where activating Divine Shield would cause a green icon to appear when selecting an aura for Blessing of Wisdom
- Reduced the amount of mana provided by Blessing of Wisdom from 75/150/225/300 per level to 50/100/150/200
- Increased the mana cost of Mend from 115 to 125
- Reduced the mana cost of Frost Bolt from 75 to 50, cast range from 600 to 800, and stun duration from 5 seconds to 2
- The player now has an additional 30 seconds to complete the first quest in Chapter 2 on Hard difficulty
- Uther now possesses the damage-absorb Divine Shield ability in Chapter 2
- Reduced the player's Goldmine to 15000 in Chapter 2 on Hard difficulty
- Footmen and Knights now start off with +1 weapon and armor upgrades in Chapter 3
- Reverted the voice over of the Orc Raider in Chapter 3 to an earlier version
- Added Healing and/or Mana Fountains throughout Chapters 3 & 5
- The player now starts off with additional gold and towers in Chapter 5
- Moved the levers for the Treasure Box in Chapter 5 to make them easier to find
- Draenei Advanced Boulder Towers now have Heavy armor in Chapter 6 on Hard difficulty
- Changed the background music played during the first quest in Chapter 7
- Reduced the level of Arthas from 15 to 12 in Chapter 7 on Hard difficulty
- Added an additional Goldmine to one of the islands in Chapter 7. However, Sylvanas' forces will now be able to send attack waves via Sky Barges
- Modified the terrain of Chapter 7 to allow base assaults by sea
- Human Frigates no longer cost any food in Chapter 7
- Human Battleships can now be hired in Chapter 7
- Added an Arcane Vault to the dwarven base in Chapter 8
- Anub'arak now transfers ownership to the Undead Stronghold base when initially defeated in Chapter 8
- Improved the creeps available at the Mercenary Camp in Chapter 8
- Added an undead versus nerubian fight scene at the front of the Labyrinth in Chapter 9
- Added additional Nerubian dialogues throughout Chapter 9
- Increased the cooldown of the Forgotten One's Spawn Tentacle ability in Chapter 9
- Rebalanced the Lich King and its defending heroes in Chapter 10
- Made slight terrain changes around the path to the Lich King in Chapter 10
- Rebalanced the enemy AI throughout several missions on Hard difficulty
- Removed the additional damage upgrade for the Undead Scourge on Hard difficulty in Chapters 8, 9 & 10
- Arthas can no longer summon more than 6 units using Animate Dead against the player
- Increased the power of Anub'arak's Locust Swarm ability on Hard difficulty
- Ivory Towers possessed by the player's Heroes are no longer passed into future missions
- Shield Breakers now leave footprints on the ground as they walk
- Reset the hotkey for the Build command back to B
- Changed the hotkey for upgrading the Town Hall/Keep to Z
- Command hotkeys (such as Build, Attack, etc) can now be overwritten by the player's custom hotkey settings
- Items are no longer dropped by destroying creep buildings
- Unique models have now been given to Tomes of Retraining, Potions of Invisibility, Scrolls of the Beast and Scrolls of Resurrection
- Runes are now color coordinated, making them easier to identify for the player
- Made numerous item changes throughout the campaign, including the location of legendary items

One major reason for this patch was to revise the difficulty of the campaign in Hard difficulty. Previously, a lot of the maps relied on micro-ing in order to complete the mission objectives, such as destroying enemy bases. The campaign was also unforgiving in a way that it provided no alternative strategies or tactics for people who could somewhat micro their units and wish to play on a harder difficulty. While AI teams were slightly nerfed in some missions, most of the changes included the addition of fountains, healing items and terrain changes to provide the player with more options in completing the mission objectives. As such, Hard difficulty still provides a challenge to players while no longer being insanely hard as it was before.

EDIT: I forgot to update the AI scripts for Chapter 2 in the initial patch. This has now been fixed and it is recommended to re-download the campaign again for those who have done so since yesterday.

 

[VadyaQ]

Hey guys! The Adventures of Rowan the Wise v4.4 is now live, bringing you several changes such as bug fixes and gameplay improvements. You can read the specific changes brought in this patch below:

Version 4.4

- Divine Shield now grants spell immunity to Rowan when activated
- Reworked Divine Shield to now last 15 seconds across all levels. Additional levels will instead grant reduced mana cost and cooldown
- Fixed a bug where activating Divine Shield would cause a green icon to appear when selecting an aura for Blessing of Wisdom
- Reduced the amount of mana provided by Blessing of Wisdom from 75/150/225/300 per level to 50/100/150/200
- Increased the mana cost of Mend from 115 to 125
- Reduced the mana cost of Frost Bolt from 75 to 50, cast range from 600 to 800, and stun duration from 5 seconds to 2
- The player now has an additional 30 seconds to complete the first quest in Chapter 2 on Hard difficulty
- Uther now possesses the damage-absorb Divine Shield ability in Chapter 2
- Reduced the player's Goldmine to 15000 in Chapter 2 on Hard difficulty
- Footmen and Knights now start off with +1 weapon and armor upgrades in Chapter 3
- Reverted the voice over of the Orc Raider in Chapter 3 to an earlier version
- Added Healing and/or Mana Fountains throughout Chapters 3 & 5
- The player now starts off with additional gold and towers in Chapter 5
- Moved the levers for the Treasure Box in Chapter 5 to make them easier to find
- Draenei Advanced Boulder Towers now have Heavy armor in Chapter 6 on Hard difficulty
- Changed the background music played during the first quest in Chapter 7
- Reduced the level of Arthas from 15 to 12 in Chapter 7 on Hard difficulty
- Added an additional Goldmine to one of the islands in Chapter 7. However, Sylvanas' forces will now be able to send attack waves via Sky Barges
- Modified the terrain of Chapter 7 to allow base assaults by sea
- Human Frigates no longer cost any food in Chapter 7
- Human Battleships can now be hired in Chapter 7
- Added an Arcane Vault to the dwarven base in Chapter 8
- Anub'arak now transfers ownership to the Undead Stronghold base when initially defeated in Chapter 8
- Improved the creeps available at the Mercenary Camp in Chapter 8
- Added an undead versus nerubian fight scene at the front of the Labyrinth in Chapter 9
- Added additional Nerubian dialogues throughout Chapter 9
- Increased the cooldown of the Forgotten One's Spawn Tentacle ability in Chapter 9
- Rebalanced the Lich King and its defending heroes in Chapter 10
- Made slight terrain changes around the path to the Lich King Chapter 10
- Rebalanced the enemy AI throughout several missions on Hard difficulty
- Removed the additional damage upgrade for the Undead Scourge on Hard difficulty in Chapters 8, 9 & 10
- Arthas can no longer summon more than 6 units using Animate Dead against the player
- Increased the power of Anub'arak's Locust Swarm ability on Hard difficulty
- Ivory Towers possessed by the player's Heroes are no longer passed into future missions
- Shield Breakers now leave footprints on the ground as they walk
- Reset the hotkey for the Build command back to B
- Changed the hotkey for upgrading the Town Hall/Keep to Z
- Command hotkeys (such as Build, Attack, etc) can now be overwritten by the player's custom hotkey settings
- Items are no longer dropped by destroying creep buildings
- Unique models have now been given to Tomes of Retraining, Potions of Invisibility, Scrolls of the Beast and Scrolls of Resurrection
- Runes are now color coordinated, making them easier to identify for the player
- Made numerous item changes throughout the campaign, including the location of legendary items

One major reason for this patch was to revise the difficulty of the campaign in Hard difficulty. Previously, a lot of the maps relied on micro-ing in order to complete the mission objectives, such as destroying enemy bases. The campaign was also unforgiving in a way that it provided no alternative strategies or tactics for people who could somewhat micro their units and wish to play on a harder difficulty. While AI teams were slightly nerfed in some missions, most of the changes included the addition of fountains, healing items and terrain changes to provide the player with more options in completing the mission objectives. As such, Hard difficulty still provides a challenge to players while no longer being insanely hard as it was before.

I remember the diffuclty of some missions was insane (that Sylvana mission made me mad so many times), but since i beat them anyway, i dont want it to be changed.

 

[Ahman]

I remember the diffuclty of some missions was insane (that Sylvana mission made me mad so many times), but since i beat them anyway, i dont want it to be changed.

Well then, unfortunately it did get changed. Happy to play the campaign once more just to see the changes though and maybe it is a preparation for a major update, but I doubt it, because the campaign doesn't seem lacking in storywise, and major stuff.

 

[Emperor Lucas II]

Well then, unfortunately it did get changed. Happy to play the campaign once more just to see the changes though and maybe it is a preparation for a major update, but I doubt it, because the campaign doesn't seem lacking in storywise, and major stuff.

*cough cough* Where's Kael'thas? *cough cough*

 

[Cassandra Jones]

Great campaign, Turnro! Still recording the new version, should be able to finish them in at least 3 - 4 weeks. Although it'll be played on Normal difficulty, since I mostly want to enjoy the additional new dialogues
Also my computer isn't that powerful enough to do it smoothly

 

[Jayborino]

Looking forward to trying the new update, I'll give it a go on Hard

 

[OblivionDeadra]

Looking forward to trying the new update, I'll give it a go on Hard

Are you sure mister youtuber?
are you for the challenge? What i'm am saying of course you do
you play hard mode

 

[Lazarator]

Looking forward to trying the new update, I'll give it a go on Hard

Good luck, Jay! I love your videos and this is a great campaign. I'd like to see you playing it

 

[Arken Rex]

Guys, I am unable to play custom campaigns. I've downloaded them, moved them into my warcraft 3 campaign folder and opened them in Frozen Throne. I get the prologue screen, but once I click it, the screen goes blank. On a few others it takes me back to the prologue selection screen. Any help would be great, I have no clue what to do

 

[Arken Rex]

Good luck, Jay! I love your videos and this is a great campaign. I'd like to see you playing it

Guys, I am unable to play custom campaigns. I've downloaded them, moved them into my warcraft 3 campaign folder and opened them in Frozen Throne. I get the prologue screen, but once I click it, the screen goes blank. On a few others it takes me back to the prologue selection screen. Any help would be great, I have no clue what to do

 

[Turnro]

Guys, I am unable to play custom campaigns. I've downloaded them, moved them into my warcraft 3 campaign folder and opened them in Frozen Throne. I get the prologue screen, but once I click it, the screen goes blank. On a few others it takes me back to the prologue selection screen. Any help would be great, I have no clue what to do

I see. I have some questions for you to better understand what the problem could be:

• Are you playing Warcraft 3 on a Mac or Windows computer?
• What version of Warcraft 3 are you playing?
• What is the file size of The Adventures of Rowan the Wise you downloaded?
• What campaigns have you tried so far?

 

[OnyxTheDark]

Hey mister map maker
I've restarted the campaign with the newest version (On Hard mode of course)

And to be honest, some missions don't really feel hard anymore
First, on mission 2, the raids from the NE were nerfed or what ?
I didn't have any trouble against those, maybe it's because its the second time I play the campaign, maybe not

On Mission 3, the MalGanis base used to be much harder to destroy if I'm not wrong, I didn't even need to reload a single time
But well, might be for the same reason as m2

On Chapter 4 I almost had an heartattack when I discovered the legendary item wasn't in the Necropolis LUL
Give legendary to a silly crate is, I'm sorry, but silly, especially when there's a speed rune just nearby
Take the item and run, why?
It doesn't feel hard at all, if people wanted an easy game they would pick easy mode, not hard
This need to be fixed, the situation is currently not viable, especially when you got OP items and more ressources than you need to destroy the Undead base
Put the item back in the Necropolis, replace the speed rune with healing rune, give more gold to the mine on Hard Mode
And that would be really good for the map

On Chapter 5, I found a really weird bug which wasn't here before
I guess people complained about the Helm of Valor dropping on the ground if the Inventory was full
But when I played it ... Rowan the beautiful died right after
First Helm dropped where he died
Second Helm appeared where Jaina's Mirror was
Third and 4th Helm appeared next to the Altar

I suggest you don't give item anywhere else but in front of the last door
Or maybe next to the shop, somewhere that is easy to access and you're sure to come nearby

Also, I don't see why you "Hint" people to buy towers on shop as any decent players would rather fill up both inventories with scrolls rather than towers
As weird as it might sound, towers and gates are not the way to play the map if you want easy win
I must admit, this is quite silly, but none of the good chokepoints are near the door, and none of the possible tower placements are decent for towers LUL

No sane man would even try to defend Dalaran at the gate points on Hard mode
BUT that would actually be a nice challenge which I'll try to record for youtube

Those are only my thoughts obviously, do whatever you want
I only want the best for the maps and campaigns I review
Sorry if I seem too harsh

And, for the sake of balance, nerf those blizzard and divine shield LUL

 

[Jayborino]

I still found it all pretty hard, but that probably means that I'm just a bad player to someone like you. Difficulty is subjective and creators have a distinct challenge in identifying what portion of the playerbase can handle what level of difficulty.

You ask why make Hard mode easier when people should just be playing on lower difficulties. I would conversely ask: why make a hard mode at all that likely less than 10% of players can even complete?

 

[OnyxTheDark]

Look at Curse of the Forsaken, it's an awesome campaign right ?
But do you think that not making any difficulty is a good thing?
Basic difficulty is set to Medium-Hard and I think half of the current wc3 community can't fully complete it
Which is why making different difficulties is important, sadly a lot of map makers don't do it
Mainly because they think like you, why you make different difficulties when it takes a lot of time and doesn't have any use or not that much?

Why make a Hard diff when only 10% of the community can make it ?
Because that's 10% that will be happy to have to challenge
If you have a good level but can only play on easy difficulty you won't find any challenge
And challenge plays a big part in the player's fun to play the game

 

[Jayborino]

Look at Curse of the Forsaken, it's an awesome campaign right ?
But do you think that not making any difficulty is a good thing?
Basic difficulty is set to Medium-Hard and I think half of the current wc3 community can't fully complete it
Which is why making different difficulties is important, sadly a lot of map makers don't do it
Mainly because they think like you, why you make different difficulties when it takes a lot of time and doesn't have any use or not that much?

Why make a Hard diff when only 10% of the community can make it ?
Because that's 10% that will be happy to have to challenge
If you have a good level but can only play on easy difficulty you won't find any challenge
And challenge plays a big part in the player's fun to play the game

I appreciate that perspective and was not angling to say it's wrong to cater to the top players, rather that it's a unique challenge to decide how to design difficulty in general considering the vast diaspora of player skill. I also agree - making multiple difficulties is definitely worthwhile assuming they can be properly tested. Turnro rewards playing on the higher difficulty by having legendary items drop, which is a great addition.