The Adventures of Rowan the Wise v4.5

[hauw]

I can't find legendary item in chapter 4 . Do you know the exact location where it is?

It is dropped from purple town hall. Good luck that one was tedious.

The next mission is much harder. I agree, almost the whole campaign itself is unnecessarily difficult on Hard. Shame, because I like turnro's campaigns. But yeah, it's not as much fun as Malfurion's Quest.

Finished chapter 5 and 6. Chapter 5 was moderately easy because i found a useful choke point, just southwest of the last gate. No matter how big an army you're facing if they can't get through it's a small army. Chapter 6 was a joke compared to other chapters.

Chapter 7 is basically a save/load grind. If all your priests and Logan got silenced by Sylvanas it's a load. Don't even bother to cast dispel with spellbook, it's better to silence Sylvanas. Players are given 5 minutes of time for preparation until the enemy AI launches a periodic attack with guaranteed casualties, thanks to Sylvanas' charm.

 

[velja856]

Thanks mate

 

[hauw]

In Chapter 8 i finally decided that it's about time i teach those pesky AI a lesson because i already had enough.

Because turnro hates me, he always put me in a disadvantageous situation
This time i have no access to spellcasters at all. So i took the luxury of picking my own rules which is not having the AI attack my base at all. Sounds good right?

So how do i do it?
I leveled the entire purple base with just three heroes without going to the base camp. Owned. Because no matter how big an army is if you can find a choke point it is a small army. Just a little bit southwest of the barely "base" camp (because it is barely fortified by the time you arrive) there is a short path you can take which is covered with trees. Clear those trees with mortar teams and you will make it through the purple base.

The AI does not rebuild buildings. So actually your goal is to snipe buildings. But somehow you will take over that massive army. When you do, lure them to the choke point, have Nathan tank, Rowan heal, and Logan spam flame strike. Spam banish to frost wyrms and storm bolt them.
This sounds difficult but i find it much easier and fun-er (do i spell this right?) rather than having to defend your unfortified base once every 3 minutes, while having your hands full on teching up and keeping your weak tier1/2 units survive under fire from goddamn meat wagons and frost wyrms like the past 4 chapters (except chapter 6).


So now go there you savage, go for the offensive, a hard difficulty is nothing if the AI is not attacking

Edited : finished chapter 10.
Chapter 10 was a very easy map (besides the purple base siege) but unnecessarily difficult. Completely amazed by the lack of usefulness of the dwarves. I guess when you take casters, healers, anti casters, anti air, and cavalry what you get is a race which you can faceroll and still win the game, because all you can do is attack ground. At least that storm bolt is useful to... Nuke necros, right?

Just within 5 minutes i had Sylvanas' base down. After Arthas attacks i also had Mal'ganis' base down. I guess it could've been easier if the dwarves pack a real punch, they can't really defend their own asses. That's why I never bothered with the dwarves' offense. I only had them spam gryphons and mortar teams for taking down purple. Purple base was ridiculously difficult but it was Arthas who made it harder.

I seriously doubt purple base has 100 supply, it must've been at least 200. I had to attack in multiple waves while chipping the entrance towers. At this point this isn't about skill but persistence of save/load. Because if all of the purple's units came down through it's a fail. After all of them are down i attacked that base from 3 directions. I had red spamming dragon hawks, ballista, and casters. It's good that Rowan has ressurection since i lost a lot of units while attacking purple, but in the end it was over.

After all that i've been through that lich king was like a joke, i brought 12 mortar teams, 24 gyrocoptes, and 24 dragon hawks. I casted invisibility on all mortar teams, a knight and mass teleported Rowan to that knight. Rowan's divine shield should just be enough to tank all five heroes. Just make sure you put a cloud spell to the Lich King. Doesn't know whether it works, guy goes down really fast. I had figured turnro gave that Lich King a 1 minute divine shield but good thing he wasn't.

 

[Neoken]

I just downloaded your campaign good sir. Put it in a digital download of wc3 & FT. Put it in the campaigns folder. Says just another wc3 campaign. No map creator. All other info is filled in with ???s. Any help would be appreciated.

Edit: redownloaded the file and cleared out all downloads of the same map in case they were not completed on my end and it works fine thanks.

 

[Maverick_Hunter]

It's so hard to get the legendary boot any tips or something?

Edit: Nevermind i got it took me lots of time -_- The key is mass gyro, about 6 - 7 knights and some priests and snipers. Let them come with u go to Undead base, lure them to attack u. Let gyro kill those banshee and necros, y ur snipers kill the gago... Flying thing and those knights may tank for u enough time for another gyro team come just only destroy the necropolis. Actually i use cheat to see all the map then u should take it as fast as possible before the rebuild and reforce. I died there after have it because those skeletons surrounded me but its worth to do =))) Tks for Hauw for this strategy

 

[Alliance10]

why is that a lot of the dialogues last just a few seconds and it ain't give me some time to read it and some are no dialogues at all

 

[Turnro]

why is that a lot of the dialogues last just a few seconds and it ain't give me some time to read it and some are no dialogues at all

Are you referring to when a character speaks? The dialogue timings are based on the length of the voice overs. If I change the duration of the dialogues, it would be out of sync with the voices.

 

[Alliance10]

oh i see now i understand thx turnro ^_^

 

[WestAKLRhymes]

Hi turnro. have loved all your campaigns thus far, no idea what people are on about in terms of terraining, imo your terraining is second to none, following the blizzard format. ive been replaying through the campaigns on hard and ive got a question about chapter 10 in rowan the wise. are the 5 undead heroes meant to consistently respawn over and over again almost instantaneously from the frozen throne after you had killed them, im talking like 5 second respawn delay times. bear in mind im playing the pre fancy graphics update version and no idea if its a bug or not. i mean, i could mass like a 300 food siege unit army or something but idk, it seems kinda weird to me and kills the pace of the map. any info would be greatly appreciated!

 

[WestAKLRhymes]

and uh nvm bout the fancy update remark, i thought that was your doing but i guess some guy on youtube changed the skins of character models and terraining with a starcraft 2 mod? idk. but im pretty sure im playing the latest version of the game.

 

[Turnro]

and uh nvm bout the fancy update remark, i thought that was your doing but i guess some guy on youtube changed the skins of character models and terraining with a starcraft 2 mod? idk. but im pretty sure im playing the latest version of the game.

Yes you are playing the latest version. What the guy on YouTube did was simply play the campaign through a mod. In regards to your other post, no it is not a bug. The heroes do re-spawn back quickly once they are defeated.

 

[Ghiffari Bara]

Turnro, Your Campaign was So Great !! Masterpiece !!
I just Finish All Your Campaign Except The Malfurion Quest (Still Chapter 2)
Anyway, If I Play The Ressurection Scourge Or Malfurion Quest in Hardest Difficulity, Is There any Legend Item ??

 

[Turnro]

Turnro, Your Campaign was So Great !! Masterpiece !!
I just Finish All Your Campaign Except The Malfurion Quest (Still Chapter 2)
Anyway, If I Play The Ressurection Scourge Or Malfurion Quest in Hardest Difficulity, Is There any Legend Item ??

Thanks for playing my campaigns There are no legendary items in Resurrection of the Scourge and Malfurion's Quest, but I may add some to them in a later update.

 

[ehuang190]

For chapter 6, is it possible to get to top left corner of the map where the goblins have the bridge destroyed?

 

[Turnro]

For chapter 6, is it possible to get to top left corner of the map where the goblins have the bridge destroyed?

You may find the answer you seek by watching some YouTube video replays of this chapter

 

[Khôi Nguyễn]

I am in love with this. I have really enjoyed playing your campaign. There isn't a single minor error in it. Very talented voice actors and actress(es) Thank you so much for this too-well-made 'Adventures of Rowan the Wise'!!! I am going to continue my journey with 'Jeopardy of the Horde' tomorrow.

P.S: I have one question in my mind right now: How did King Rowan die? Of old age or being assassinated?
Also, during all the missions, the AI has always sent its workers to rebuild its recently lost buildings right after I razed one to the ground except for the right-orange-base in last mission. Because if it had done the same thing, the mission would have been impossible. Haha. To me, this point makes your campaign 'unique' and 'remarkable'.

 

[Turnro]

I am in love with this. I have really enjoyed playing your campaign. There isn't a single minor error in it. Very talented voice actors and actress(es) Thank you so much for this too-well-made 'Adventures of Rowan the Wise'!!! I am going to continue my journey with 'Jeopardy of the Horde' tomorrow.

P.S: I have one question in my mind right now: How did King Rowan die? Of old age or being assassinated?
Also, during all the missions, the AI has always sent its workers to rebuild its recently lost buildings right after I razed one to the ground except for the right-orange-base in last mission. Because if it had done the same thing, the mission would have been impossible. Haha. To me, this point makes your campaign 'unique' and 'remarkable'.

Thank you very much You can assume Rowan died of old age.

 

[MouMou]

Gut damn it i can't use cheat on hard mode i hate you
Turnro...anyway good campaign 5/5

 

[hauw]

Campaign is updated so i update my rating from 4/5 to 5/5 although you deserve 5/5 right from the start.
I see that you're still working on it and we all expect that Adventures of Rowan the Wise will go from great to super awesome.
More feedback : do you mind adding some gnome spellcaster on dwarf techtree?

 

[Turnro]

Campaign is updated so i update my rating from 4/5 to 5/5 although you deserve 5/5 right from the start.
I see that you're still working on it and we all expect that Adventures of Rowan the Wise will go from great to super awesome.
More feedback : do you mind adding some gnome spellcaster on dwarf techtree?

Thanks I actually intend to do another update over the next few months. I have got a lot of feedback on The Adventures of Rowan the Wise over the last year, and there a few minor things that need to be tweaked (most specifically the gameplay).

In regards to the gnome spellcasters, I am not sure at this stage. This campaign was never made to be loaded with custom units, but I'll take it into consideration.

 

[Nanang Kiroh]

You said is true, @Turnro.

 

[Alliance10]

oh yeah Turnro if you don't mind can you make the maximum level of all heroes only by 15, because level 20 is so OP, i feel like what is the used of having legendary items if you can have more stats.

 

[Alliance10]

oh btw Turnro can you put new units in human building like captains and change the rifle to crossbowman and put the rifleman to dwarves training unit so dwarves have range units. i only suggest.

 

[istvan921]

Turnro should use the dwarf bunker from the Heart of Storms pack as a replacement for the dwarf farm.

 

[Turnro]

oh btw Turnro can you put new units in human building like captains and change the rifle to crossbowman and put the rifleman to dwarves training unit so dwarves have range units. i only suggest.

Turnro should use the dwarf bunker from the Heart of Storms pack as a replacement for the dwarf farm.

I think the reason why I didn't use any new human units was because I couldn't find any decent models (there are models out there, but a lot of them a poorly made). I'll have a look at the bunker building though, that sounds cool. I'm aiming not to make drastic changes to models and stuff since the update will mainly be fixing up gameplay issues and bugs.

 

[istvan921]

I could even give you the dwarf rifleman that i am using in my mod if you want?

 

[istvan921]

Here is the link if you are interested:

https://www.hiveworkshop.com/pastebin/a58d152f08c03c2050c47cf171589d6710200/

 

[This is my Hammer]

Great map, this is quite nearly a perfect Custom Warcraft 3 Campaign, everything you expect is there, secrets, rewards for facing optional challenge, new hero abilities, Satisfying RTS play, as well as relaxed adventuring and dungeon crawling. The one imperfection of the game was quite obviously the voice acting, the fact that Turnro put in the huge amount of effort necessary to have the entire campaign voiced over is amazing, however higher quality mics, especially for the orcs during the campaign would have been nice, also maybe making Nathan the Mighty a little easier to take seriously. 5/5 (also, Chapter 5 was excessively difficult in my opinion (especially seeing as it is early in the campaign), particularly on Hard)

 

[Turnro]

Great map, this is quite nearly a perfect Custom Warcraft 3 Campaign, everything you expect is there, secrets, rewards for facing optional challenge, new hero abilities, Satisfying RTS play, as well as relaxed adventuring and dungeon crawling. The one imperfection of the game was quite obviously the voice acting, the fact that Turnro put in the huge amount of effort necessary to have the entire campaign voiced over is amazing, however higher quality mics, especially for the orcs during the campaign would have been nice, also maybe making Nathan the Mighty a little easier to take seriously. 5/5 (also, Chapter 4 was excessively difficult in my opinion (especially seeing as it is early in the campaign), particularly on Hard)

Thanks for the feedback What did you find exceedingly hard about Chapter 4? Was it laying siege to the undead base or the map in general?

 

[This is my Hammer]

Thanks for the feedback What did you find exceedingly hard about Chapter 4? Was it laying siege to the undead base or the map in general?

Oh god, I meant Chapter 5, the survival. My apologies, Chapter 4 was the mission with the survivors, Chapter 4's base was actually by far the hardest base siege I ever did, as you correctly predicted but eventually I just cheesed the main base with Gyro copters , and collected my Legendary Item, when I found ordinary siege to be impossible. Even though I spent hours trying to do an ordinary siege and ended up cheesing, Chapter 4 was still extremely satisfying to me, because I directly used the reward of a side quest to help obtain the legendary. Also as far as what I found difficult in 5, it was just the sheer quantity and power of creeps I faced, as well as my inability to build a shitload of towers or more than a couple really (even when being creative and destroying trees with cannon towers), being restricted to only a few tiny patches of ground. Oh and of course Chapter 5 also features the most difficult side quest in the campaign as well, because even when using effective teleport to complete it, the amount of micro and time it takes is yuge. That being said though I should have included in my last review that this is the first map EVER, to have me use gyro copters as a serious strategy. 6/5

 

[rafaelrq]

Can somebody tell me where is the saphire necklace? It's the only legendary I couldn't find :C

 

[Turnro]

Can somebody tell me where is the saphire necklace? It's the only legendary I couldn't find :C

Click here

 

[Yuefang]

Hi there, I came here for a tip, how can the green base in Chapter 4 in Hard Mode be defeated?I just can't defeat them. D:
I won this one time in Hard but now I forgot how I did lol.

 

[Turnro]

Hi there, I came here for a tip, how can the green base in Chapter 4 in Hard Mode be defeated?I just can't defeat them. D:
I won this one time in Hard but now I forgot how I did lol.

Through tedious work and a lot of time and effort lol

When I originally made that base, it was intended to be a base you're not meant to attack. A couple of years ago, someone suggested that the legendary item should be a reward you get for destroying the base. I listened to this suggestion, and I later regretted it.

I will be doing an update soon that will fix up a lot of issues, including changing the location of the legendary item. When available, you no longer have to destroy the undead green base other than for the satisfaction of destroying it.

 

[Yuefang]

Though tedious work and a lot of time and effort lol

When I originally made that base, it was intended to be a base you're not meant to attack. A couple of years ago, someone suggested that the legendary item should be a reward you get for destroying the base. I listened to this suggestion, and I later regretted it.

I will be doing an update soon that will fix up a lot of issues, including changing the location of the legendary item. When available, you no longer have to destroy the undead green base other than for the satisfaction of destroying it.

I could destroy it in the end, maybe you're right but in the previous version before this change, I destroyed the base anyway, just I don't know why this time I was having so many troubles and, I didn't read about the change of anti cheat system lol.

 

[Ahman]

how to find swift walker boots in chapter 4: the betrayal?? i already searched everywhere with hard difficulty and i also finished the two side quests.
i also tried beating the scourge army but i failed thrice. apparently its impossible to beat

 

[Ahman]

how to find swift walker boots in chapter 4: the betrayal?? i already searched everywhere with hard difficulty and i also finished the two side quests.
i also tried beating the scourge army but i failed thrice. apparently its impossible to beat

i just skipped the base and ended the mission. I finished the campaign and found 9 out of 10 legendary items!!
i also found out that the final chapter can't be beaten in hard difficulty, unfortunately. i don't know, but i tried to finish it many times failing every time. good campaign and i hope that there is a chance of you adding voice acting to the other 3 campaings cuz its kinda boring without voice

 

[Yuefang]

i just skipped the base and ended the mission. I finished the campaign and found 9 out of 10 legendary items!!
i also found out that the final chapter can't be beaten in hard difficulty, unfortunately. i don't know, but i tried to finish it many times failing every time. good campaign and i hope that there is a chance of you adding voice acting to the other 3 campaings cuz its kinda boring without voice

The last chapter in Hard can be beaten, it's pretty challenge but yes, it's defeatable, just try to analize the Undead defenses and you will defeat them.

 

[Coolumbus]

Truly fantastic campaign - nearly flawless. I just had a problem with the "minor" lore inaccuracies such as Uther being an idiot, Antonidas being a total scumbag and others (I don´t mind those at all since it´s said it´s the alternative story) aaaaand ... Logan isn´t quite suitable name for an elf, really

 

[AwsomeAnubite9080]

Hi loving this custom campaign on hard and I don't do that often. Though I'm currently havering trouble finding chapter 4 hidden item. Some help would be appreciated thx.

 

[Turnro]

Hi loving this custom campaign on hard and I don't do that often. Though I'm currently havering trouble finding chapter 4 hidden item. Some help would be appreciated thx.

Thanks for playing the campaign The question you enquire has been asked many times, and you will find the answer you seek in the comments above.

 

[felixng2012]

Some of these chapters on hard are mind boggling difficult .

 

[Turnro]

Some of these chapters on hard are mind boggling difficult .

Indeed, I am aware that some chapters should be toned down in Hard difficulty. You'll be happy to now I'm working to resolve this.

 

[kamukag3e]

Hello Turnro and have my 5 stars in appreciation of you hard work over this beautiful campaign.

While I don't actually like the 'alternative' story or your kind of humor (I'm quite picky about those and with taste pointing towards epic or English kind of humor), your attention to details is amazing.

As a note, please do not reduce the difficult of the campaign, it will ruin the challenge which it provides. Right now I'm at chapter 6 on Hard and did not find a lot of difficult to win them from my first try and without the need of second attacks so far. The WarCraft's AI is easily exploitable and further toning down is in my opinion not needed.

I've won the first 4 chapters without a single unit loss and in chapter 5 I did lose part of my army from the final push, just because the meat wagons were too much for my spell-casters to handle and not a single unit before that. So there are easy ways to deal with the difficult which does not require a lot of skills, just knowledge and strategy.

 

[Jayborino]

Commenting as I've never properly rated Turnro's campaigns - going to hit your other projects too big T

I honestly couldn't tell what was meant to be satire and what was meant to be serious (as serious as one gets with a Warcraft campaign that is), but the missions were all around very fun, so this is an easy 5/5 for me. I tend to weight story quirks much lower than actual mission gameplay content, so things like the Uther weirdness and Terenas being randomly killed offscreen don't really factor into my personal enjoyment/review score.

The broad strokes of the changed timeline are cool and let us experience a different path, which I found quite fun and all of the maps are polished and well crafted. Disclaimer: I don't dare play your maps on Hard because I probably couldn't beat them - from what I see they are extremely crazy/unfair and meant for folks wanting a major challenge. I've been able to tackle your middling difficulty on all your campaigns and they all ramp up nicely from beginning to end.

As always, full playthrough/review on my YT channel.

 

[Turnro]

Hello Turnro and have my 5 stars in appreciation of you hard work over this beautiful campaign.

While I don't actually like the 'alternative' story or your kind of humor (I'm quite picky about those and with taste pointing towards epic or English kind of humor), your attention to details is amazing.

As a note, please do not reduce the difficult of the campaign, it will ruin the challenge which it provides. Right now I'm at chapter 6 on Hard and did not find a lot of difficult to win them from my first try and without the need of second attacks so far. The WarCraft's AI is easily exploitable and further toning down is in my opinion not needed.

I've won the first 4 chapters without a single unit loss and in chapter 5 I did lose part of my army from the final push, just because the meat wagons were too much for my spell-casters to handle and not a single unit before that. So there are easy ways to deal with the difficult which does not require a lot of skills, just knowledge and strategy.

I appreciate you signing up to Hive just to rate this campaign

I am aware that modifying the maps on hard difficulty will not be easy, though my task is not so much reducing the difficulty but rather making the game more fair towards players. Many of the AI teams you verse will stay mostly the same but with slight rebalances, such as in the final mission. Other AI teams, such as in Chapter 4 & 6, I quite like as they are and will not be touching them.

I won't know how this goes until the update is live, but I will make sure that Hard difficulty does still provide a challenge to players but not as unforgiving as it is now.

 

[kamukag3e]

Because I didn't yet played chapters 7-10 I post my opinion on their difficult about those later (perhaps after the weekend).
But from 1-6 the difficult (on Hard) is challenging but nothing too hard. Chapter 5 was a bit harder, but only because the enemy have superior tech and attacking from two directions simultaneously. Removing any of that in my opinion would make the mission too easy, I don't have your imagination, to change the circumstances by other means.

While I'm aware I'm far above the average WC3 player in therms of micro and macro, I didn't lose units in most of the maps, even at the attacks (at chapter 7, in my save I didn't yet assault the enemy base tho, where the unit-loss might appear) the incoming attacks can be handled by just the two heroes while I bank money and army for the assault - I don't think difficult is too high.

So my advice in that regard is to perhaps make a linked thread for the community members to state their opinion and explain - elaborate where they see their difficult with the campaign comes from.

Once again, thank you for your effort in creating such a wonderful and fulfilling campaign.

 

[kamukag3e]

I was able to finish the campaign, found a small issue on level 9.
Where the Faceless One, dropping the Blessed Crown of Kings can be killed first and his reanimated corpse drops another one (for total 2 crowns).

I don't the campaign is too hard, some issues in the earlier levels more because of the tech difference rather than the enemies being too strong. In all levels past 7 I manage to defend the attacks with the heroes alone, leading to a good pile of gold which could be used for amassing offensive force.

In the later stages I suggest placing some acolyte throughout the base, because otherwise the enemy can be easily shut-down by killing the workers and the Necropolis, leaving the base exposed to skirmishes and buildings not being repaired or rebuild if damaged.

 

[Turnro]

I was able to finish the campaign, found a small issue on level 9.
Where the Faceless One, dropping the Blessed Crown of Kings can be killed first and his reanimated corpse drops another one (for total 2 crowns).

I don't the campaign is too hard, some issues in the earlier levels more because of the tech difference rather than the enemies being too strong. In all levels past 7 I manage to defend the attacks with the heroes alone, leading to a good pile of gold which could be used for amassing offensive force.

In the later stages I suggest placing some acolyte throughout the base, because otherwise the enemy can be easily shut-down by killing the workers and the Necropolis, leaving the base exposed to skirmishes and buildings not being repaired or rebuild if damaged.

I never noticed the double Blessed Crown of Kings bug. I should fix that lol

I see what you mean by destroying the Necropolis and Acolytes, denying the undead in summoning and repairing their buildings. I'll see what I can do about that.

 

[kamukag3e]

One more note, sorry for being this late, but on the final mission The Frozen Throne (as building) is very easy to beat.
It's treated as tower, powerful but a single Dragonhawk Rider with it's Cloud ability is enough to prevent it from attacking - from there onward destroying it is not a problem with any siege type units, especially when you have 300 limit of army, which is huge because of no-supply requiring for heroes.