Textures and animations

[varsaigen]

I am making a troll model and I used war3 Model Editor and Milkshape but I have a problem. When I imorted into Milkshape, everything was fine. But when I imported back into mdx/mdl, it was covered with black and white splotches and wouldn't do anything. I recreated the bones and stuff and gave it animations. But it won't work. I can get hero glow and team color but the skin won't show up. Help Please!!!!!!

 

[blazing-inferno]

did you remember to run zero joints before you redid the animations in milkshape? because if you didn't then the animations will screw up. you could always try using animation transfer from oinkerwinkle, or manually put the animations in using notepad.

i wouldn't know about the texture, i would assume you you know how to properly unwrap your model in milkshape, i personally don't know how to do it. i saw a little while ago someone made a small tutorial on how to do it, let me find it quick for you.

*edit* heres the one http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32623, not exactly the one im looking for but it shows how to do it. also try this http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41840 its a tutorial all about milkshape, i hope this answers your questions. good luck.

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

When you export a model from MS3d to mdx and open with war3 model editor, the model is white. That's because in texture or material manager you will see textures\white.blp. Remove it and import the textures you use. Re-open war3 model editor and it will have textures. Now your path is YourTexture.blp not Textures\blabla\bla\. When you import in milkshape you lose the animations, then back to .mdx he has no animations. That's one thing not good for the importer, always removes animations.

 

[varsaigen]

i did what you said to do but it didnt work. perhaps i should upload a pic?

 

[blazing-inferno]

the more information you provide the better chance of figuring out whats going on.

 

[varsaigen]

The pics are in the word doc.

Here are the pics. This is what I have for him.

The pics are in the word doc.

Hopefully, you will be able to help me figure out what is going wrong. As this is my first model and I don't intend for it to be trashed.
thx.

 

[blazing-inferno]

ok tell you what... post your model, and your skin, i wanna check something with it. i have a feeling terran is right and you have to edit something in note pad.

 

[varsaigen]

ok tell you what... post your model, and your skin, i wanna check something with it. i have a feeling terran is right and you have to edit something in note pad.

ok. I don't know how to get the skin attached but can give you the model to look at. It uses the troll headhunter skin.

 

[varsaigen]

Here is the model.

I hope this helps. Thx!

The model was on the Model editor. I hope you can fix it.

 

[yobare]

varaigen i also using milkshape can u edit a wc3 model in milkshape? i mean like change then model and have allready finished animations? i wana have ur msn m8 tell me it

 

[blazing-inferno]

as far as i can tell the reason its not working is because you didn't put Textures\Headhunter.blp and so on in notepad.

Textures 9 {
Bitmap {
Image "",
ReplaceableId 2,
}
Bitmap {
Image "Headhunter.blp",
}
Bitmap {
Image "",
}
Bitmap {
Image "ForestTroll.blp",
}
Bitmap {
Image "gutz.blp",
}

and one of them is completely missing so could you post the textures you used or something? possibly the original ms3d file? im pretty sure thats your problem so if you were to change them they should work.

 

[yobare]

i need ur help guys im new to milkshape i just made 3 models so far with no textures i dont know how to add textures onto models. and i wana import allready existed animates i mean like edit allready existing units

 

[varsaigen]

Here is the origional out of milkshape. Hope it helps. ^ ^

Im sorry. I tried to upload the ms3d model but hive won't upload it. I know how you can get it in though. Using Milkshape, you can import the model and it then can be saved as an ms3d file. Hopefully that will help. And to anyone who reads this, please don't steal my model idea. I worked very hard on it.

 

[blazing-inferno]

not looking to steal, just to help. stealing isnt tolerated on this site so you have no worries. to upload your ms3d file you must zip it to post it on the site. so use winrar or izarc or winzip to compress it and post it. Also please put the textures you used into a file and zip those as well so i know exactly what you used.

 

[varsaigen]

here is the model. it has been zipped. hope that helps.

And i wasn't criticizing you of stealing blazing-inferno. It was more to the public incase someone tried to use my idea as their own.

 

[blazing-inferno]

i need the textures you used also, i know that they are ingame textures but i need the ones you used specifically for this model.

 

[varsaigen]

I used the textures:
headhunter.blp
Replaceable ID1
Replaceable ID2

That is all i used. no alterations on the headhunter.blp

 

[blazing-inferno]

well the only thing i can see about it is that in the MDL there was no path to the textures such as Textures/Headhunter.blp for any of them. im going to try to import it into 3ds max and apply it.

*edit* ok well i imported it into max, and applied the textures. they look ok for the most part but i don't know what textures to use for the spear, front loin cloth, and the shoulder armor so i just made the shoulder armor team glow and the loin cloth and ball team color. im sure you can change it in vertex modify if you want or something. so here it is, you will have to tweak it and stuff, it does not have bones so it cannot have animations transfered to it. im guessing your planning on editing it in milkshape.

the team color is screwed up i basically just put it on so it has texture, but im positive you can fix all of this in vertex modify. i was in a rush so at least it shows up in magos and WE

 

[NO_exe]

I fixed some Parts of it, now works with ingame textures.

NOTE: give rep or credits, whatever you want to blazing-inferno, he did most of the work and I dont want to steal him this!!!

offtopic: 100 posts

 

[blazing-inferno]

thats defiantly better then what i did. i had trouble with applying the texture to the shoulder pad, spear and that ball. how exactly did you do it?

 

[NO_exe]

Oh I just loaded the Model in War3ModelEditor, Imported all the Textures in Texture Manager and createtd for each Textur a Material (before this I removed all Materials and some Geosets, because they weren't needed, they were empty)

In GeosetManager I choosed for each single Geoset the right Material, first I had some trouble because I didn't knew that the FilterMode for Teamcoloured Materials 'Blend' is.

ok varsaigen, there are still somethings for you to do:
-add DecayBoney
-add Portrait
-animate
-...?

 

[blazing-inferno]

i was using 3ds max to put the textures on because notepad wasn't working and forget milkshape because i can never get anything i want to work in that program. anyway +Rep for you, great job.

 

[varsaigen]

wow. thx guys. Ok. I will add credit to you for helping me with this model when I upload it to the site.*thumbs up for you two!* Thx! ^ ^ I will get to work on it.

 

[varsaigen]

for general frank to help me out since he's an uber modeler

this is the model so far. I have made a few adjustments but can't get the animations to work. I also don't know how to get the portrait and the skeleton.


Update:
Updated version in next post. Hopefully Cavman can help me finish it by giving it animations. Thx Cavman!

 

[varsaigen]

Thx guys for al your help. here is the latest version of it. Cavman is supposed to add the animations if he wants to. I have a list of the wanted animations for him. Here is the model. (only for cavman only)

UPDATE:
I have uploaded the wardeye texture. Hope that helps, Cavman

 

[varsaigen]

*Sigh* Apparently Cavman gave up in the first week. I will need to find someone who has time to fix up the skeleton of the model as I am unable to do it at the moment. So if anyone is willing to try, send me a message and i'll get you the model. thx!