Terraining Contest #5 - Winter Wonderland [Playable]

FamousPker49 · Dec 16, 2008

Yeah, well I hate the theme. If you don't like imports then don't use them. If you want everyone else to do the same. Quit whining and don't make a terrain then.

Volvox · Dec 16, 2008

Don't lead this the wrong way, act like God sent this theme for you to do and you're gonna burn in hell if you object. Not really a nice idea but really, that's the only way to do competitions because you can never have a 100% happy crowd.

syltman · Dec 16, 2008

Oww... I'm out again.. I just can't come up with something good enough to be playable :-(

Edit: NVM I changed my mind, a guy repped me in again!

Edit2: Wip inc. but it still need a heck load off work!

Phoonix · Dec 16, 2008

omfg my parents are realy strange... first thei say. ei where going on a trip next week and then few hours later w8 no lets make that in a month...
Gues im back in (yay!) Good luck to you all.

Sabertooth · Dec 16, 2008

sylt that's a good start. Very small and plain as it is though.

Airandius · Dec 16, 2008

syltman, it's fair considering you are using import, good basics.
THough, what kind of map-type should it be?

Gilles · Dec 17, 2008

syltman, I know I said any size was fine, but that's pretty small. Might want to go a little bigger.

Rising_Dusk · Dec 17, 2008

Wait, you're tasked with making a melee map and you can use the UTM? That's rubbish, takes out half the excitement of the entire bloody contest. Whatever, though, there isn't a good reason why you shouldn't use imports, but I think half of the skill in terraining is in using your ability to make the world beautiful, not in using beautiful models and having your terrain stuck along for the ride.

Because I think the UTM being used for melee maps is utter blasphemy, but is certainly within Gilles' right to do as the contest leader, I'm going to sponsor a mini-contest inside of this one. If there are more than 3 entries and you make your terrain without any imports at all and score in the top 3, I will double your reputation reward.

Savvy?

Linaze · Dec 17, 2008

So we can make an AoS, hero defense terrain, melee terrain or anything?

Rising_Dusk · Dec 17, 2008

It would appear so. Nothing in the rules specifies any sort of restriction on exactly what you make, only that it be playable.

Phoonix · Dec 17, 2008

yep you can make any type of terrain as long that it is playable. doesent matter what type of map you can yust amke a showoff map as long that it is playable.

raid1000 · Dec 17, 2008

so we need to attach the map as well?
so that the judges may see its playable?

Phoonix · Dec 17, 2008

yes you always need to atach the map ^^
in evory terraining contest ^^

Gilles · Dec 18, 2008

Rising_Dusk said:
Wait, you're tasked with making a melee map and you can use the UTM? That's rubbish, takes out half the excitement of the entire bloody contest. Whatever, though, there isn't a good reason why you shouldn't use imports, but I think half of the skill in terraining is in using your ability to make the world beautiful, not in using beautiful models and having your terrain stuck along for the ride.

Because I think the UTM being used for melee maps is utter blasphemy, but is certainly within Gilles' right to do as the contest leader, I'm going to sponsor a mini-contest inside of this one. If there are more than 3 entries and you make your terrain without any imports at all and score in the top 3, I will double your reputation reward.

Savvy?

It isn't melee.

Rising_Dusk said:
It would appear so. Nothing in the rules specifies any sort of restriction on exactly what you make, only that it be playable.

Well the idea is to create an environment, not necessarily a "map". Just a landscape that is walkable as apposed to the usual "art terrain".

~Void~ · Dec 18, 2008

I didn't plan on using any imports anyways, so this works out quite well for me.

Rising_Dusk · Dec 18, 2008

Gilles said:
It isn't melee.

So it would appear that you're correct there. Bleh, then most of my little challenge really doesn't mean anything. AoS maps/etc with imported doodads really don't mean anything.

Anyways, so as to avoid trying to usurp the contest from Gilles (and because it isn't just a contest to make a melee map) I should revoke my previous challenge. How about this -- I'll give people who place in the top 3 without using custom doodads (and of course only if there are more than 3 entries) some rep on the side. I can't double the contest reward, but I'll certainly make it worth the effort.

That sound fair?

~Void~ · Dec 18, 2008

Hm, what if we use one imported tree? The ones that are in WC3 already are so bad.... :[

Rising_Dusk · Dec 18, 2008

Tough luck! If you want to risk not doing as well because you didn't use that custom tree, then you might win the contest and get my extra bonus. However, maybe you won't even place in the top 3 without that tree? Decisions, decisions...

~Void~ · Dec 18, 2008

I'm not worried about my ranking, that doesn't really matter. It's for personal satisfaction

Rising_Dusk · Dec 18, 2008

Then I guess you've already answered your own question.

~Void~ · Dec 18, 2008

Not really, my question was about still getting the extra reward, and you answered that

I don't think I'm going to use imports. I just won't use too many trees x]

Gilles · Dec 18, 2008

I'll update the contest with Rising_Dusks added bonus when I get home from work.

Rising_Dusk · Dec 18, 2008

No you won't, silly.

Rising_Dusk said:
So it would appear that you're correct there. Bleh, then most of my little challenge really doesn't mean anything. AoS maps/etc with imported doodads really don't mean anything.

Anyways, so as to avoid trying to usurp the contest from Gilles (and because it isn't just a contest to make a melee map) I should revoke my previous challenge. How about this -- I'll give people who place in the top 3 without using custom doodads (and of course only if there are more than 3 entries) some rep on the side. I can't double the contest reward, but I'll certainly make it worth the effort.

That sound fair?

That is me just giving rep because it's something I can do. It doesn't require any additional rules or anything.

AbeHolm · Dec 18, 2008

I'm out of this contest for now since latley im too swampt with the campaign contest, if I finish the campaign contest I might be able to come back here

Good luck and have fun for the rest of ya!

Gilles · Dec 18, 2008

Rising_Dusk said:
No you won't, silly.

That is me just giving rep because it's something I can do. It doesn't require any additional rules or anything.

Okay, then I won't be.

Any WIPs out there?

Airandius · Dec 18, 2008

Rising_Dusk said:
So it would appear that you're correct there. Bleh, then most of my little challenge really doesn't mean anything. AoS maps/etc with imported doodads really don't mean anything.

Anyways, so as to avoid trying to usurp the contest from Gilles (and because it isn't just a contest to make a melee map) I should revoke my previous challenge. How about this -- I'll give people who place in the top 3 without using custom doodads (and of course only if there are more than 3 entries) some rep on the side. I can't double the contest reward, but I'll certainly make it worth the effort.

That sound fair?

I like it very much. And I wasn't going to use imports anyway. =)
All say HUZZA for Rising Dusk and give him a good hug! xD

*hugz*

syltman · Dec 18, 2008

Meh, I just can't do it... I don't got the spirit to work on this contest and I don't got any good ideas to make this look good. I'm out D:

Phoonix · Dec 19, 2008

syltman said:
Meh, I just can't do it... I don't got the spirit to work on this contest and I don't got any good ideas to make this look good. I'm out D:

kinda same here i think i rather gonna work on my project i yust cant get it right well cya!

Childeric · Dec 19, 2008

Im in. As far as playable terrains, winter is my favorite. =)

Mr.Goblin · Dec 19, 2008

I,m making a Scary winter theme.. like its the night.. alone in the dark... and you see things moving everywhere... like ghost etc...

Childeric · Dec 19, 2008

Oh, definitely going to use imports as well. In my opinion, do whatever you can to make it look exceptional. When people don't use imports, it's because they think they're too good to use them. If Da Vinci had used a rock rather than a brush to paint the Mona Lisa, just to prove he was the best, i doubt itd look as good. v_v

Belgarath · Dec 19, 2008

Damn winter. Just, damn winter.

Gilles · Dec 20, 2008

Belgarath said:
Damn winter. Just, damn winter.

Ahh, quit your whin'n.

It's winter in my country, so that's the theme.

Rising_Dusk · Dec 20, 2008

Childeric said:
If Da Vinci had used a rock rather than a brush to paint the Mona Lisa, just to prove he was the best, i doubt itd look as good. v_v

Please don't use mis-representative analogies, they completely nullify the entire point of whatever it was you were saying. It would be more appropriate if you likened the standard paint brush Da Vinci had that came with his canvas to an imported, high-quality, camel-fur paint brush made for the Pharoahs in Egypt.

TerraNexx · Dec 20, 2008

by terrain only map it means no water, no increased or decreased terrain ?

Volvox · Dec 20, 2008

Not really, you may do whatever you want with your map, as long as it has a playable pathing map(see first post for details).

TheBlooddancer · Dec 20, 2008

You can do anything to your map, aslong as it follows the first post.

Gilles · Dec 21, 2008

I find it difficult to covey the contest theme.

Basically make a landscape in the world editor. This ladscape cannot be 2-D like most terrain contests, but must be fully walkable, and completely terrained.

Hunterravyn · Dec 21, 2008

Sign me up :thumbs_up:

oh by the way completely terrained ...? like it looks good and you can look around with a unit or?

Airandius · Dec 21, 2008

Gilles said:
I find it difficult to covey the contest theme.

Basically make a landscape in the world editor. This ladscape cannot be 2-D like most terrain contests, but must be fully walkable, and completely terrained.

With 2d, do you mean that you have to use blizzard cliffs to make it 3d? Or do you mean just increasing the height level of the ground. Like hills and stuff.

raid1000 · Dec 21, 2008

damn men just make a fucking terrain in wich u can move a damn footman that whont go throu trees and shit

Volvox · Dec 21, 2008

The voice of reason.

Bu113t · Dec 21, 2008

Airandius said:
With 2d, do you mean that you have to use blizzard cliffs to make it 3d? Or do you mean just increasing the height level of the ground. Like hills and stuff.

By 3d I think he means that all the stuff you create gotta be pretty and wisible from all angles.
In a 2d or terrain picture the angle you look in it looks pretty, but if you you turn the camera around you find absolutely nothing because it Aint visible or hidde nbehind things, but in 3d everything would have to be

TerraNexx · Dec 21, 2008

Submit!

Edited version and a picture I don't know what is this white spot at picture...? LoL

raid1000 · Dec 21, 2008

lets get this straight
i have my map but i imported some models i need from utm
is that ok? cuz if not im screwed xD

FamousPker49 · Dec 21, 2008

Perfectly fine. As long as they are present in the UTM, you can have them in the map you submit.

Also terranexx, I would suggest smoothing out your pointy hills. If they are mountains, they are small, and you should put pathing blockers there. I would suggest more rocks, and definitely use some more height variation.

Gilles · Dec 21, 2008

raid1000 said:
damn men just make a fucking terrain in wich u can move a damn footman that whont go throu trees and shit

Thank you.

Bu113t said:
By 3d I think he means that all the stuff you create gotta be pretty and wisible from all angles.
In a 2d or terrain picture the angle you look in it looks pretty, but if you you turn the camera around you find absolutely nothing because it Aint visible or hidde nbehind things, but in 3d everything would have to be

And thank you.

It's not that hard guys. Next time I'll be sure to make a small example.

TerraNexx · Dec 21, 2008

FamousPker49 thanks on tip.. I'll try to make these mountains smother and add some destructibles...

Wolle · Dec 21, 2008

Im in, and i have a pretty clear idea of what im doing.
Also i want to hear if it is ok if i use this model:Elk_male - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site

raid1000 · Dec 21, 2008

heres the wip

Terraining Contest #5 - Winter Wonderland [Playable]

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