Tale of the Two Brothers - Part One Reworked

[August Edoarus]

Thank you for reworking！Could I translate it into Chinese as I have done？

 

[VanAndro]

What a pleasant surprise.

 

[RvP21]

Thank you for reworking！Could I translate it into Chinese as I have done？

You are free to translate this campaign as well

 

[Tryndamere]

Finally part 1 has been reworked, now the quality is comparable to part 2. Let's go

 

[gaurdian of the flame]

its feel strange to see my name in a credit for the first time

 

[Fyar]

It finally happend! So excited for this. I will come back with a review soon.

 

[Razze]

at the 2nd chapter, everytime harg wolfhowl used his spectral blast for the 2nd time will always make warcraft froze(i played on 1.31)

 

[RvP21]

at the 2nd chapter, everytime harg wolfhowl used his spectral blast for the 2nd time will always make warcraft froze(i played on 1.31)

Thanks Razze for notifying.

It could be a patch issue (it did not happen at my test playthroughs). Do other players encounter this as well, and if yes, on which patch are you playing?

 

[raypack]

Thanks Razze for notifying.

It could be a patch issue (it did not happen at my test playthroughs). Do other players encounter this as well, and if yes, on which patch are you playing?

Glad to see yet another campaign made on patch 1.29!

 

[Mekin]

Does it work on the latest patch?

 

[RvP21]

Does it work on the latest patch?

It is made for patch 1.29. I do not play on later patches, so I do not know for sure. The best way to find out is playing it, I presume

 

[MelNefys]

Nice one ! I like the story and the characters relations, and the Factions variations, somes "Legends of Arkain" Inspiration, cannot blame you

Good continuation !

 

[deepstrasz]

Spoiler: comments

1. Terrain looks quite good with well noticed creativity in some places.
2. In chapter 1, there's a lack of permanent items for the hero inventory. Chapter 2 is better in this aspect only because you start with 2 items.
3. A bit too much on the gnoll genocide.
4. Spiders seem to have their own road neighbourhood rather than some cave complex or forest.
5. Peons don't mine when you reach the northeastern encampment.
6. Harg is not a hero but has a hero model.
7. Definitely not a fan of linearity in the form of trees going down suddenly.
8. During the scene with Lord Scarlet, he and his goons are teal, not red.
9. Interestingly, Desiderious' hideout wasn't fortified at all, being more of a sort of outdoor treasure or dump room.
10. One could think: "this one creator does really hate gnolls." Chapter 4: yet another canine genocide.
11. Technically, the orcs are not surrounded, at least not by the elves and humans but more by gnolls.
12. The blue gnoll optional quest ping in the southwest doesn't disappear after quest completion if you destroy that base first instead of the northwestern one.
13. Think there are two Blademaster heroes, Rokaro and Kuzakami but each with different spells. Funny thing is the first actually has an axe and would fit into Gash's Axemaster category.
14. IMO, Malkork is too much an important and present character not to be a hero.
15. Finally, no more doggiecide.
16. Healing Water's description when on ground says it creates a Great Hall.
17. Gash doesn't say much of anything during the talk about the bridge (maybe he was feeling really ill). Trycex doesn't say anything about him.
18. In chapter eight in the north base there's a player owned racoon. One near the river blocked by rocks too in the orange base. Oh wait, this is intentional, there's numerous critters around the map, xD
19. Harembe's Wrath's buff icon should not look passive.

A well made remake. The only downside of the work is that it feels too much like a Warcraft III imitation (gameplay mechanics, factions, universe, techtrees etc.) but there's definitely some you in there.

Approved.

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[RvP21]

Hi Deepstrasz!

Thanks for the review. Glad you liked this version more than the previous version, although that is understandable.

I will take your feedback into account and use it during the next update, which will occur when I receive more feedback.

 

[pedeng]

helo there this one is very fun one(played the old one and now cant get pass on chapter 2 after i cleared the town from the zombie's). there is any tipp with it?

 

[RvP21]

helo there this one is very fun one

Hi pedeng! Glad you like it.

there is any tipp with it?

You mean you can't defeat the zombies after the graveyard cinematic ran? It is not the objective to defeat the zombies, only to escape from them. So my advice is to go for the practical solution: run

 

[kristoffer kørvell]

Thanks Razze for notifying.

It could be a patch issue (it did not happen at my test playthroughs). Do other players encounter this as well, and if yes, on which patch are you playing?

i to keep encountering this excact bug. I play 1.31. I usually have no probs playing maps recommended for 1.29.

 

[RvP21]

i to keep encountering this excact bug. I play 1.31. I usually have no probs playing maps recommended for 1.29.

Hi kristoffer korvell!

Thanks for reporting the issue. With the next update, I will look into it!

 

[Neuro_25]

umm in chapter 2 whenever i try using the 3 skill of harp wolfhowl my game got crash. did anyone got that or it just me

 

[RvP21]

umm in chapter 2 whenever i try using the 3 skill of harp wolfhowl my game got crash. did anyone got that or it just me

Hi Neuro_25! This is a crash that has been reported twice before. I will look into it with the next update. Thanks for the notification!

 

[tulee]

Thought I would add some notes I wrote down from when I played this campaign:

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Intro
Love the custom music playing when it shows that small island at the start talking about gods.
Pretty cool how time passes in the opening, so it goes from 1st king Theomund to 4th king in a short period.
Don't feel bad for the Orcs being wiped out, when they started the war by attacking the Humans.

Ch1
Cool custom spells.
Spearthower heard screams from the area his warriors went to check but didn't bother to see if they were his troops in trouble?
Smell... wet dog... nice touch considering it was raining during the cutscene with the Gnolls.
Maybe slow down XP rate for the hero. I was max level for this mission by the time I finished the first murloc camp we come across after we meet the Gnolls initially.
Maybe disable pillage if we can't use it on our hero yet (no base building = no pillage).


Ch2
Funny interactions with goblins.
Crash related to the demi hero's aoe stun spell. I know it has been mentioned before. Pretty sure it is an issue that has been changed for 1.31+. One suggestion to fix it is to make sure none of the spells values are 0 (so if you have casting time, duration of spell, etc, make them above 0, and make sure casting time is always larger than duration of spell, if there is a duration of spell value in the object editor for that spell).
The Undead wave was quite tough at the end, especially since the ranged unit had slow poison which kept slowing my Hero down.
I like how the end cinematic showed my Hero and units crossing the bridge, when in reality I sacrificed all the non-essential units to buy myself enough time to get across the bridge.


Ch3
2 invisible buildings in the Murloc camp North of the Gnolls we kill at the south west part of the map (maybe a 1.32+ visual bug).
Found another invisible building near the barrel that drops gold coins north of the previous 2.
I really like how the main Fel hero just has passive spells. He is very powerful.

Ch4
Nice 1v7. Would be cool if the terrain could be tweaked to forces the Gnolls and Humans who come to attack your base to come across each other more often, so they can fight each other.

Ch5
Good to see the humans being shown as the good guys too despite them being out enemy (the Heroes who were against torturing the Orc).
The Gnoll ally vs item choice was really tough, since the Gnoll was not bad to us, which made killing him to get the item feel very bad morally. In the end, item choices are always better for late game though, so I chose that.

Ch6
Only purple and yellow pushed out, other allies were useless, unless they were supposed to just defend.


Ch7
What was plot point behind Gash being poisoned / constantly losing levels throughout the mission?
Creative to make the final stand part just units, no heroes.

Ch8
Another interesting no-hero mission.
Coal Legion was a tough fight. I had to wait for them to send a wave of air units at my base and then I struck him while he didn't have a full army to defend his base with.


General points
This campaign was designed really well, both RTS and RPG missions. The terrain was also fantastic and creative, making me feel like each mission was very fresh. Had a lot of fun playing it.
Currently, I think part 2 of this campaign has some kind of imported model/icon that is causing the campaign to be unplayable on 1.32+ (not sure why it won't work on 1.32+, since almost every other campaign is forwards compatible outside of exceptions like using memory hack, third party world editors, etc). Hopefully in the future, that will change, so I can find out how the story continues.

 

[RvP21]

Hi tulee! Thanks for your extensive feedback. I am glad you liked it I will respond to the points I think need clarification.

One suggestion to fix it is to make sure none of the spells values are 0 (so if you have casting time, duration of spell, etc, make them above 0, and make sure casting time is always larger than duration of spell, if there is a duration of spell value in the object editor for that spell).

Thanks for the suggestion! I will try this during the next update and hopefully this will fix the bug.

Only purple and yellow pushed out, other allies were useless, unless they were supposed to just defend.

It is true that the other allies are only for the defense. They do not move out, but they do have a larger defensive force. This enables you and your allies to attack the undead relative unhindered, as you do not need a large defense yourself.

What was plot point behind Gash being poisoned / constantly losing levels throughout the mission?

The idea behind it was to make Gash weaker so the map would be harder to complete. If I hadn't done that, Gash would have been level 8. With those skills, he could wipe out enemy attack waves all by himself.

I needed to scale him down with a plausible explanation (not just scaling him down randomly). To summarize: there is no plot point, but a gameplay point behind this

Currently, I think part 2 of this campaign has some kind of imported model/icon that is causing the campaign to be unplayable on 1.32+ (not sure why it won't work on 1.32+, since almost every other campaign is forwards compatible outside of exceptions like using memory hack, third party world editors, etc). Hopefully in the future, that will change, so I can find out how the story continues.

I hope this bug will be fixed in the future, but I do not know what causes this. As far as I know, the models and icons have been imported the correct way Maybe you can switch to another patch if you want to play part two?

 

[tulee]

Thanks for the explanations.

Maybe you can switch to another patch if you want to play part two?

Currently, your campaign is the only one I know on hiveworkshop that does not work on 1.32+. The only campaigns that normally have issues are memory hack related or use 3rd party world editors. So, no. But thanks for offering lol.

 

[RvP21]

Currently, your campaign is the only one I know that does not work on 1.32+. The only campaigns that have issues are memory hack related or use 3rd party world editors. So, no. But thanks for offering lol.

In that case, I hope this issue gets fixed in the future.

 

[pedeng]

hi guys this is way better then previous one. do u remake the part two as well? or that is done in similart spirit like the new part one?

 

[RvP21]

Hi pedeng!

I do not plan to remake part two (although I do not exclude reworking some things if necessary). I think part two looks much more like part one reworked than the original part one. But, I can't speak for the players of course

The easiest way to find out is to play it