Sunken City v2.5.0

[Callahan]

The Tinker scrap aura healing and mana regen on clockwerk spawn does not work anymore.
Ghost banshees attack can damage and kill themselves with their splash damage.

 

[SpasMaster]

A hotfix version (2.4.3a) has been released that addressed some of the reported issues.

 

[Unregret]

Yes! Thank you for that Zerash part. I was so pissed off when he drops nothing while I have all 3 other components on hand.

 

[nuck001]

There's a texture display bug in this version.When I typed "-stats",the bottom of the screen would be filled up with textures.

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And i don't know how to open this gate.The blue moon key didn't work for this one.

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[Kusanagi Kuro]

There's a texture display bug in this version.When I typed "-stats",the bottom of the screen would be filled up with textures.

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And i don't know how to open this gate.The blue moon key didn't work for this one.

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Because that door isnt supposed to be opened with Key of the Moon.

 

[Burndead]

The -stats text problem is known for quite some time but still not solved. Apparently, it is kinda different for the different players and their resolution setup.

The door needs another key.
Look closely near the fountain at the human camp (1 rifle man, 2 footmen)

 

[nuck001]

The -stats text problem is known for quite some time but still not solved. Apparently, it is kinda different for the different players and their resolution setup.

The door needs another key.
Look closely near the fountain at the human camp (1 rifle man, 2 footmen)

Thanks,i'll take a look.

 

[Unregret]

Sometimes, if you buy Sphere of Darkness as Death Knight and return it to Dreadlord (Before you receive the quest). You can see both question mark and exclamation mark and two dialog at the same time.

 

[BonnyBravo]

hey i have some trouble to finde the titanforged handle. i can finde both the titanforged head and elyrian elixir, but need the last piece of the puzzle, can i get a hint or 2. thanks

 

[arifmeticus]

hey i have some trouble to finde the titanforged handle. i can finde both the titanforged head and elyrian elixir, but need the last piece of the puzzle, can i get a hint or 2. thanks

Check the intersection near the Waterworks dungeon.

 

[lojileeji]

Hi just finished playing the new version of the map (awesome as always, really impressed with the new changes).
Just stuck with a few questions:

1. The obelisks at the West Entrance, what item is needed to activate them?
2. The kalisea arena, is it possible to open?

Thank you for any help given

 

[Davion24]

The phase transporter is somewhat bad compared to its predecessor. I understand that sometimes it can tp you unsual places and can break the game. But I often get stuck in the tp rune with my resurrect stone on cd. Maybe add a way to get out of the space. The new version looks great with these new changes.

 

[SpasMaster]

The phase transporter is somewhat bad compared to its predecessor. I understand that sometimes it can tp you unsual places and can break the game. But I often get stuck in the tp rune with my resurrect stone on cd. Maybe add a way to get out of the space.

I am assuming you speak out of single player experience, because in multiplayer you can use the Staff of Teleportation to go back to your allies on a 1 minute cooldown.
I understand that there are people who play the game in single player, but ever since day one, the way to play in my mind and by design has been with allies. This is how I always approach all features: with the mindset of a team game.
I will, however, keep it in mind and will provide a solution if I come up with something clever.

1. The obelisks at the West Entrance, what item is needed to activate them?
2. The kalisea arena, is it possible to open?

1. The item is a random drop called Void Sphere but it currently isn't working properly. A fix is on its way in the next minor update that will come soon.
2. No, the Arena will become the playing field in an upcoming new mode. Don't expect it anytime soon tho.

 

[SpasMaster]

A Development Update has recently been posted in our Forum. Check it out if you haven't done so yet!

 

[Burndead]

The phase transporter is somewhat bad compared to its predecessor. I understand that sometimes it can tp you unsual places and can break the game. But I often get stuck in the tp rune with my resurrect stone on cd. Maybe add a way to get out of the space. The new version looks great with these new changes.

Well, just don't use the phase while the stone is on CD.





Damage Reduction effects can no longer reduce damage taken below 10% of its original amount



@SpasMaster What are the mechanics behind this one?

Nevermind, I've misread it.

 

[Darxy]

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Greetings, is it true that this is a WC3 problem? Is this what conversation above says true?

 

[Senneria]

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Greetings, is it true that this is a WC3 problem? Is this what conversation above says true?

Yes, not sure why you'd think a contributor would be lying.
If you look at the Warcraft 3 1.30 PTR notes you can see than there's an issue with save/load in multiplayer.

 

[Darxy]

Yes, not sure why you'd think a contributor would be lying.
If you look at the Warcraft 3 1.30 PTR notes you can see than there's an issue with save/load in multiplayer.

Is it possible to make it somehow that a 4th open slot or computer(normal) is added so then it may not bug?

Since I just tested it out and it works with 2 players but not with 3...

 

[Senneria]

Is it possible to make it somehow that a 4th open slot or computer(normal) is added so then it may not bug?

Since I just tested it out and it works with 2 players but not with 3...

Not possible.
If I am not mistaken the game always attempts to put all players in the red slot, so adding a "loading slot" won't solve the issue.
You just have to wait for the 1.30 patch to be live.

 

[theHUMANhunter]

I used crocifix of the moon light to kill the invulnerable naga but I didn't see a ghost key being dropped to get the suramara wines for the recipe. I played only the version 2.4.3a. Is it a bug or has the location of the key changed?

 

[theHUMANhunter]

I'd also like to know where I can use the guardian's key

 

[nuck001]

I've been stucked in the ruins for several days.Perhaps I've sold quest items to the merchants or destroyed some keys.

I'm a new player of this map,never played the old versions at all.Could anyone give me some hints of opening this gate?

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[SpasMaster]

Could anyone give me some hints of opening this gate?

A bookshelf speaks about a broken down golem. Perhaps there is something useful in his remains? Look near another nearby gate that requires the Feric's Key.

 

[Sladki]

A word of caution: saving near the boss with Two Corridors Key can corrupt your save (1.30, 2.4.4a).

 

[nuck001]

A bookshelf speaks about a broken down golem.

Thanks for your hints but I'm still stucked around the ruins.I don't remember there was such a bookshelf you described though I've inspected every bookshelf in sight.However,I extracted jass file from your map and opened it with UltraEdit, there is indeed a line about "golem orb" which I have never seen before.

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Look near another nearby gate that requires the Feric's Key

I think you're talking about the Torch of Kalisean Flame which is supposed to light some braziers.I've already picked it up,but I can't reach the correct area where I assumed to be.

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I'm afraid there're too many locked doors which could make newbies confused such as:

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This door needs a Twin Corridor Key to open.

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This door needs a Guardian's Key to open

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This door,in my opinion,is supposed to be opened by 3 red diamonds which I've already discovered 2 of them.

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This door needs a Feric's Key to open.

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This door,in my opinion,is supposed to be opened by a legendary Titan item which is located behind a fire trap.

I have no idea which door is the right way,not to mention I haven't found any key of them.

 

[Kusanagi Kuro]

Thanks for your hints but I'm still stucked around the ruins.I don't remember there was such a bookshelf you described though I've inspected every bookshelf in sight.However,I extracted jass file from your map and opened it with UltraEdit, there is indeed a line about "golem orb" which I have never seen before.

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I think you're talking about the Torch of Kalisean Flame which is supposed to light some braziers.I've already picked it up,but I can't reach the correct area where I assumed to be.

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I'm afraid there're too many locked doors which could make newbies confused such as:

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This door needs a Twin Corridor Key to open.

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This door needs a Guardian's Key to open

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This door,in my opinion,is supposed to be opened by 3 red diamonds which I've already discovered 2 of them.

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This door needs a Feric's Key to open.

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This door,in my opinion,is supposed to be opened by a legendary Titan item which is located behind a fire trap.

I have no idea which door is the right way,not to mention I haven't found any key of them.

Most of the door you shown leads to dead end. How can those be the correct way to advance in the map? Ok. I guess new people can think that might be the key item is in 1 of those places, which is acceptable.

What Spas said isnt the Torch of Kalisea. You literally took a picture of the shutdown War Golem and cant recognize it?

 

[Sladki]

The golem:

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And, by the way, SM, the torch bounding box is too small and the torch itself looks too "static".

 

[nuck001]

You literally took a picture of the shutdown War Golem and cant recognize it?

Thank you very much!

I think this puzzle is a little bit absurd because:
a) The players have never engaged with a War Golem in the early part of the game.As a matter of fact,most of us have no idea what a BROKEN golem looks like.
b) The color of golem is very similar to the color of rocks.It's a trick without wisdom but hurts people's eyes.
c) The bookshelves around that area don't show the proper clues.

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Well,I do believe thet @SpasMaster has put the hint of "golem orb" into one of those bookshelves,just like the clues before such as "the key hidden in the well" and "the key hidden under the desk".However,in SunkenCity v2.4.4a,newbies wouldn't know the golem trick unless they check the jass file themselves.

 

[SpasMaster]

a) The players have never engaged with a War Golem in the early part of the game.As a matter of fact,most of us have no idea what a BROKEN golem looks like.

I am assuming that the players of this map don't play Warcraft 3 for the first time and have seen what a Golem in Warcraft 3 looks like.

b) The color of golem is very similar to the color of rocks.It's a trick without wisdom but hurts people's eyes.

The color of the golem is gray. I am not sure if you see the tiles in gray, but they are not.

c) The bookshelves around that area don't show the proper clues.

You are seriously mistargeting them. You should inspect right in front of them.
Not above them.
Not on the wall behind them.

 

[nuck001]

You are seriously mistargeting them. You should inspect right in front of them.
Not above them.
Not on the wall behind them.

Oh i see,it works!Thanks a lot.

 

[SpasMaster]

A word of caution: saving near the boss with Two Corridors Key can corrupt your save (1.30, 2.4.4a).

Can you elaborate a bit? What exactly is the issue? Are you getting errors? What do you mean exactly with "corrupted save"?

 

[Sladki]

Can you elaborate a bit? What exactly is the issue? Are you getting errors? What do you mean exactly with "corrupted save"?

I've quicksaved while fighting with demon boss (fire traps) and when I tried to load (multiple times, with rebooting), the game just crashed on the loading screen and "Send crash report to Blizzard?" window appeared.

 

[Kusanagi Kuro]

I've quicksaved while fighting with demon boss (fire traps) and when I tried to load (multiple times, with rebooting), the game just crashed on the loading screen and "Send crash report to Blizzard?" window appeared.

Can you try another game and save at the exact spot?

 

[Sladki]

Can you try another game and save at the exact spot?

I've spent about 8 hours to reach the spot, need time to rest before next attempt.
I think, that the problem with the game. Perhaps, I've saved when mobs were falling from the sky or the traps were sending fires, I don't remember. Or my summons were summoning or despawning. Something like that, abnormal, that uses references and may cause null pointers or other problems.
Just wanted to warn you and say, that it's better to save to different files sometimes.

 

[Senneria]

I've quicksaved while fighting with demon boss (fire traps) and when I tried to load (multiple times, with rebooting), the game just crashed on the loading screen and "Send crash report to Blizzard?" window appeared.

When you have time please try to re-create the save issue, because in all our time testing the saving has worked without issue for Sunken City (other than the usual corrupt save files and other save/load issues Warcraft 3 has), so far we have not been able to experience and/or replicate save issues.

 

[Burndead]

I have a problem with loading a save game.

When I try to load it, it says that there's an error loading the game.

I go to "Logs" folder and in the "FramedefErrors" file I see this.

7/28 12:58:35.038 Error (UI\FrameDef\UI\ConsoleUI.fdf:82429832): Expected ",", but found "AlphaMode"
7/28 12:58:35.038 (UI\FrameDef\UI\ConsoleUI.fdf//82429832) Warning, unknown keyword in context: Literal String
7/28 12:58:35.038 (UI\FrameDef\UI\ConsoleUI.fdf//82429832) Warning, unknown keyword in context: ,

Anyone can help? Is it corrupted?


Also, I'm "playing" with Mage and the game crashes too many times... wtf

 

[SpasMaster]

I have a problem with loading a save game.

Patch 1.29 or the 1.30 PTR?

 

[Sladki]

I began experiencing many crashes in heroic mode when in battle (1.30). Usually it happens, when I'm trying to select spell target or a mob dies.

Is summoning snakes by lesser creatures (zombies, murlocs) intended?

 

[Burndead]

Patch 1.29 or the 1.30 PTR?

1.30 PTR,2.44a

I began experiencing many crashes in heroic mode when in battle (1.30). Usually it happens, when I'm trying to select spell target or a mob dies.


Is summoning snakes by lesser creatures (zombies, murlocs) intended?

I have a lot of crashes as well. Same thing pretty much here.

 

[Kusanagi Kuro]

I began experiencing many crashes in heroic mode when in battle (1.30). Usually it happens, when I'm trying to select spell target or a mob dies.

Is summoning snakes by lesser creatures (zombies, murlocs) intended?

It is.

 

[nuck001]

Finally,I've completed this amazing map.The storyline is attractive,the spells and items are fun.The best part of this map are delicate puzzles which remind me of Iceborn.SunkenCity is no doubt one of the best custom maps in history,it would shock the world if you transplant it to a standalone game.

I've completed most quests of the game except the titan one.I could neither forge the titan weapon nor open the titan's vault.There must be something i've missed,Could anyone give me some hints?

 

[Kusanagi Kuro]

Finally,I've completed this amazing map.The storyline is attractive,the spells and items are fun.The best part of this map are delicate puzzles which remind me of Iceborn.SunkenCity is no doubt one of the best custom maps in history,it would shock the world if you transplant it to a standalone game.

I've completed most quests of the game except the titan one.I could neither forge the titan weapon nor open the titan's vault.There must be something i've missed,Could anyone give me some hints?

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Let see:
1/ The Anvil is needed to forge the key to the vault of the titan. Speak with the Mysterious Stranger in the Vault to know about the legendary power.
2/ We have a king and a queen. Search ur answer in QUEEN'S TOMB (note: dont try this shiet if u can micro ur hero accurately)

 

[nuck001]

1/ Speak with the Mysterious Stranger in the Vault to know about the legendary power.

I did spoke to the Mysterious Stranger yesterday,but I can't remember what he said. Most dialogues cannot be reviewed by F12(not F9),which perhaps is the only shortcoming of this map.

2/ We have a king and a queen. Search ur answer in QUEEN'S TOMB

I also did search the Queen's Tomb yesterday.I survived into the deep tombs with the Potion of Invulnerable.Yet still no clues...I just can't remember what i did in front of Elisa's grave.

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[Burndead]

Void sphere is a random drop from any creep. Correct?

 

[SpasMaster]

Important!
Anyone who is experiencing crashes on the 1.30 PTR, please try to provide a replay of the game you crashed on, while also stating which Sunken City version you were playing, so I can directly send it to Blizzard and they can look into the issue.
If you forget to save the replay before you close down the game, a "Last Replay" can be found in your <Documents/Warcraft III/Replay> folder which always corresponds to your last game played.
Thanks in advance!
@Burndead
@Sladki

 

[Burndead]

Sure, I can do this.
I know exactly how my last game crashed - I've killed the lich summoner boss in the graveyard.

 

[Sladki]

Important!
Anyone who is experiencing crashes on the 1.30 PTR, please try to provide a replay of the game you crashed on, while also stating which Sunken City version you were playing, so I can directly send it to Blizzard and they can look into the issue.
If you forget to save the replay before you close down the game, a "Last Replay" can be found in your <Documents/Warcraft III/Replay> folder which always corresponds to your last game played.
Thanks in advance!
@Burndead
@Sladki

It doesn't save. I've turn on "Save replays automatically" option, but the folder and subfolders are empty after crash.

 

[Kusanagi Kuro]

I did spoke to the Mysterious Stranger yesterday,but I can't remember what he said. Most dialogues cannot be reviewed by F9,which perhaps is the only shortcoming of this map.


I also did search the Queen's Tomb yesterday.I survived into the deep tombs with the Potion of Invulnerable.Yet still no clues...I just can't remember what i did in front of Elisa's grave.

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1/ Check the Journal (f9), there should be a quest about Legendary Power (Optional).
2/ Either you have not gotten all items inside Queen's Tomb dungeon, or you have missed the hint in one of those items.

 

[nuck001]

1/ Check the Journal (f9), there should be a quest about Legendary Power (Optional)

Well,that's my mistake in writing.What I meant is that most dialogues can't be reviewed by F12（not F9）.I've already checked the quest text as well as the jass file for many times.

Here's my speculation:
a) Titanforged Handle+Titanforged Head+Elyrian Elixir=Titanforged Hammar
b) Titanforged Hammer could be used to open the Vault of Titans.
c) There must be some Eyes of Titans in that Vault.
d) Mysterious Wanderer will trade some artifacts with those Eyes.

Here's my problem:
I do not have the Titanforged Head.I have no idea where it is.

2/ Either you have not gotten all items inside Queen's Tomb dungeon, or you have missed the hint in one of those items.

I've almost turned the Queen's Tomb upside down.Picked everything i thought was useful.
Here's my speculation:

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+Queen's Tiara=Queen's Scepter

Here's my problem:
I do not have Queen's Tiara.I've searched the forum by the keyword "Tiara",but only found some old threads years ago which suggested players to check the purple king?

 

[Kusanagi Kuro]

Well,that's my mistake in writing.What I meant is that most dialogues can't be reviewed by F12（not F9）.I've already checked the quest text as well as the jass file for many times.
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Here's my speculation:
a) Titanforged Handle+Titanforged Head+Elyrian Elixir=Titanforged Hammar
b) Titanforged Hammer could be used to open the Vault of Titans.
c) There must be some Eyes of Titans in that Vault.
d) Mysterious Wanderer will trade some artifacts with those Eyes.

Here's my problem:
I do not have the Titanforged Head.I have no idea where it is.


I've almost turned the Queen's Tomb upside down.Picked everything i thought was useful.
Here's my speculation:
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Here's my problem:
I do not have Queen's Tiara.I've searched the forum by the keyword "Tiara",but only found some old threads years ago which suggested players to check the purple king?

All of your speculations are correct.

Well, u need to fix the broken queen's tiara. It's really hard to pass by and doesnt notice that broken thing given by a wisp.

The Head is in one of the boss zone pass the twin corridor in late game. Require a special item interaction which require a Thread of Endless Fire to get that item. Pay attention to the colors of 4 runes that near the Gentulon boss. Those 4 colors can be the key for u to solve this.