Sunken City v2.5.0

[VakarlanS]

This map is impossible to complete with one player??? Cause nobody wants to play this map with me...

 

[SpasMaster]

This map is impossible to complete with one player??? Cause nobody wants to play this map with me...

You should join our Garena group. =)

 

[harry120586]

the flesheater evasion of shadow hunter hero got reduced to 35% but it did't level up like spike on ranger hero or any normal skill on other heroes??

 

[obley.]

15 or 20?
http://s017.radikal.ru/i407/1306/4a/33854ef7b934.jpg
http://s020.radikal.ru/i720/1306/fc/6772720086cc.jpg

 

[SpasMaster]

15 or 20?
http://s017.radikal.ru/i407/1306/4a/33854ef7b934.jpg
http://s020.radikal.ru/i720/1306/fc/6772720086cc.jpg

The first tooltip is the correct one. I forgot to edit the second.

 

[Patacorow]

I just joined these forums only to tell you what a great map this is!!!! Me and my 2 friends finished it in 6.5 hours and it was the best map we've ever played. I can't believe how well our heroes synergized with each other (Witch Doctor, Berserker and Warrior) and this was only our first playthrough!!
Loved how the map doesn't doubt your intelligence and actually puts up a challenge (both with the enemies and the puzzles). Finding all of the Artifacts felt awesome and we also found one of the divine items! (Tablet of Life!)
Lots of props to the creator, love your work, hoping for a second one!

 

[switchwitch]

I just joined these forums only to tell you what a great map this is!!!! Me and my 2 friends finished it in 6.5 hours and it was the best map we've ever played. I can't believe how well our heroes synergized with each other (Witch Doctor, Berserker and Warrior) and this was only our first playthrough!!
Loved how the map doesn't doubt your intelligence and actually puts up a challenge (both with the enemies and the puzzles). Finding all of the Artifacts felt awesome and we also found one of the divine items! (Tablet of Life!)
Lots of props to the creator, love your work, hoping for a second one!

Dude, how did you find this Tablet of Life, I ve never found her so far... Does it has anything to do with the Old Compass?

 

[iam3rr0r]

I played this map on garena with my friends but idk for what reason my friends got dced from the map and i was alone there in the game....???

 

[Vunjo]

I played this map on garena with my friends but idk for what reason my friends got dced from the map and i was alone there in the game....???

Check the gif about garena on the main map post, it explains everything about garena.

 

[seraphin]

New heroes... gotta check it out, didn't expect that!

Btw, anyone else feel that Mage ulti is kinda lame? :>

 

[SpasMaster]

New heroes... gotta check it out, didn't expect that!

Btw, anyone else feel that Mage ulti is kinda lame? :>

I actually love it.

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

Nice, I like the changelog! Also, some of the ulti spells aren't very 'cool'

 

[ShogunFromBrazil]

As far as I remember I was one of the "firsts" how found the Tablet of Life. And from that time the way how it could be obtained never changed. But I still dunno what do the old compass marking - for sure not the "way how to obtain the Tablet". Maybe it has to be upgraded? Anyway, Tablet could be obtained even without a compass, you just need to think)

And spasorc, I think you meant the RIGHT door insted of LEFT in this post:
"The password for the left door is a message. Try to look for an item that has this message on it."

Because the only one way how to find the second RED-CLASS item (LEFT DOOR) was connected with teleport staff, and it is pretty much powerful - even more than Tablet.
Great that in the last version you changed the mechanism of teleport usage - only on heroes))

The two last things that still remains the secret for me is a lost tuskar - how is he connected to some quest - and the mask of kergaloth - for sure it is not needed as a general item as far as when you are able too obtain it - all monsters are already dead))
Maybe some hints about this two things?))

P.S. Spacorc, Still great work, constant significant upgrades and high quality of map (never faced a single bug in a past 10 versions for sure). You are still one of the Hive RPG headliners.

 

[I_am_Death]

i have a question, how can i open the door that has moon before it?

 

[SpasMaster]

i have a question, how can i open the door that has moon before it?

You need the Key of the Moon. It's acquired early on in the game, near the first Doom Guard boss.

 

[I_am_Death]

thanks

 

[Phrike]

If you want, I can give you MPQ files that contain ripped models that will replace your Wc3 models with Wow models. Also I can give you some ripped WoW characters. If you want that is, but if you do this your map will use a lot more more memory (not a good thing)...one more thing, where is the download button? ):

 

[SpasMaster]

If you want, I can give you MPQ files that contain ripped models that will replace your Wc3 models with Wow models. Also I can give you some ripped WoW characters. If you want that is, but if you do this your map will use a lot more more memory (not a good thing)...one more thing, where is the download button? ):

I would have to refuse your MPQ offer, but thanks. =)

The download button is right before the comments start. Big red button.

 

[Phrike]

I would have to refuse your MPQ offer, but thanks. =)

The download button is right before the comments start. Big red button.

thanks! Oh I posted the same thing somewhere else...just ignore it or something...I think it was in your recruitment thread or someplace like that

 

[harry120586]

there's a bug in new hero agi = marauder... on skill brutality which increase the abilities damage by 10/20/30/40...
when the first level leardned, it works normally, but when u choose the level two on this skill, and u used it, somehow it goes back to level one, this happens all the time until lvl 18, and I can't learn any skill anymore... please check it.. thx

great hero marauder... like it very much...

 

[Phrike]

Spas can you please tell me how to change what values the 3 attributes affect? What are the triggers?

 

[SpasMaster]

Spas can you please tell me how to change what values the 3 attributes affect? What are the triggers?

Create a thread here and people will surely help you. =)

 

[conril]

This is a great map, but my friends and i got to a point, where we had no idea what to do, and it kept saying check the throne room behind you, and we kept on checking, but couldn't find anything it was very frustrating. also the electrical orb has a glitch when you take it out of your inventory it just vanishes, and is lost completely.

 

[seraphin]

Hey.

1.4.7 feels refreshed - good job.
Anyway, as far as I like the earthquake effect I think it's too often - anyone feel that way too? After a while it was annoyin...

I didn't get to play much yet but I had a game of Tide/Berskr/Farseer and we all got kicked out the game at one point - don't know if it's a bug. Everything slowed down and we got booted. The moment it happened was early game - at the first spikey elevator trap which gets you to the lever that lowers down the secret area. We decided to send the farseers summoned ferals but the spirit didn't make it in time and as he was supposed to be killed by spikes it kicked us all out the game. It was strange and just wanted to share.

All the best, take care!

 

[Leon Magic]

How do you actually play this?
I cant load it Warcraft 3
I cant load it in Map Editor
How do you play this?

 

[madscialex]

Ehm... Why is the only avaliable amount of lives on long awaited insane difficulty five? If you intended it to be really insane then pls add also the possibility to play with one life on this difficulty.

 

[Brachyceran]

(Edit : this may not answer the comment above because i disunderstood it) you see the note that says something like "at insane difficulty each hero will get a powerful item" , maybe in the f9 i dont remember correctly .
Btw i would be very appreciated if you made single player mode , like choosing this mode will remove the two unit needed seals near the start ? Only heroes that can solo this i find are the summoners like the necromancer with skeleton summon .

 

[SpasMaster]

Dont you see the note that says something like "at insane difficulty each hero will get a powerful item" , maybe in the f9 i dont remember correctly .
Btw i would be very appreciated if you made single player mode , like choosing this mode will remove the two unit needed seals near the start ? Only heroes that can solo this i find are the summoners like the necromancer with skeleton summon .

For the "n-th" time in this thread: Just before the bridge there is an Ancient Bookshelf which has 100% chance to drop a Healing Ward that can be used to power the bridge, no matter what hero you use.

Ehm... Why is the only avaliable amount of lives on long awaited insane difficulty five? If you intended it to be really insane then pls add also the possibility to play with one life on this difficulty.

Because deaths may happen because of delay, lag-spiking or any other reason that is not up to the players. Besides, five lives is already hard enough.

 

[madscialex]

Because deaths may happen because of delay, lag-spiking or any other reason that is not up to the players. Besides, five lives is already hard enough.

And here we go again... Delays, lags or momental disconnections are more likely problems of internet connection/lan you use, not map's fault. From a complete disconnection no amount of lives would let you play from the disconnection moment. And mentioned lags can be pretty easily dodged, it just takes a little more carefull and safe gameplay. To be more accurate if you expect lags then you shouldn't be blind and have a good teamwork with other teammates. That's the best way to save from such unexpected problems (ex. when I wanted to avoid the trap near the fire lord, the one that is in the middle of the way, I got a temporal disconnect for a few seconds. Unfortunatelly my character kept on going the way I directed him, but without the intentions of avoiding the trap, so my friend blocked my char using his skeletal minions). Also such problems doesn't disappear in lower difficulty modes and yet you can play there on one life.

Secondly... Man... Get real... Sorry for that, but even starting with one life you can gain like 7+ lives through game... (didn't play later versions than 1.4.0 so I added "+" assuming there might be more now) And also pls don't get mad but difference in difficulty levels is hardly noticeable... Maybe only the first 40min of the game on insane might take like max 5-10min more to complete than on hell.

Well for the last thing I've probably said it before but there are some players who likes really hard challenges and will complete them no matter how impossible they might be. If your map is played by rookies, then they got plenty options to adjust map to their level, no need to limit it with "it is hard, you shall not pass, so i give you 5 lives instead of 1"
Also you should have noticed but in this map there are plenty, really plenty ways to boost your character statistics. So increasing the difficulty of monsters little by little won't do much, an experienced player would just use more of the possibilities to boost stats (thats why I said maybe only the start of the game might feel harder) accordingly to monsters strength. To make the whole game harder you should either drastically increase monsters strenght or decrease the possibilities of feeding heroes with steroids.

The belt with spellshield - when you click on it in the inventory, the spellshield goes on cooldown and stacks effects such as additional perma health from diabolic scepter...

 

[Adarsh]

there is a way to play it solo, controlling three heroes: at the beginning of the map, write cheat 'synergy', it allows you to pick more than one hero
edit: no longer, version 1.5.0 disabled this cheat

 

[Hudziyamka]

Great teamwork map!

 

[Tridinar]

I stopped playing this around the time the Engineer was taken out. I don't know if he's back in or not, but, if not, do you ever plan on putting him back in? There were many weak points about him, but all of those could have been improved. He was my favorite hero, ever.

 

[SpasMaster]

I stopped playing this around the time the Engineer was taken out. I don't know if he's back in or not, but, if not, do you ever plan on putting him back in? There were many weak points about him, but all of those could have been improved. He was my favorite hero, ever.

That's quite the break you took. The map has evolved significantly since then. You might not recognize it

Since the Engineer was taken out, 2 new goblin heroes have been added - The Sapper and the Bruiser. You may find the Sapper very similar to the Engineer. =)

And to answer your quesion directly: No I am not planning to bring him back. However he pretty much lives within those two other goblins.

 

[robizeratul]

Warcraft,we meet again! At least a year passed since I played so this was a good map to start.
Everything is better than I remember,I can see you really like what you are doing,the passion is showing.I would love to see you start a new map though,The w3 community is smaller every day so something fresh and new would be exciting.
Complaints?things that you could improve?I only have two and one of it is minor.
1)minor: change items into categories,like : DPS items,tanking...etc
2)allow cheating.I don't understand why you disabled it.A lot of people enjoy this map in single player why do you deny that?I have wasted a lot of hours playing with Synergy,just testing out stuff.why can't you allow all cheats for us to enjoy?it's not like we are hurting anyone...
anyway,thanks for your dedication!

 

[asam3]

Okay we've finished the map and I'm now ready to rate this.

We only had 2 players to play and we decided to play it on easy. I was a healer(the two-headed Ogre) and my friend was a tank(Deathknight) took us roughly 5 hours and we weren't able to open the Master's Chamber(or whatever it's called. Was password protected)

So first off the game is fairly decent all over, replay value is low but that's a given. Might just play it twice or thrice afterwards since I've already finished it once.

Running back and forth is a pain in the ass, that's all I can say.

Encountered a minimal bug with the weapon that gives 1 health per skillcast. It doesn't have a 1.5 second cooldown, it's longer from what I noticed.

It's quite annoying that quest rewards can't be used to craft items, but it's okay.

Lastly, the ending sucks. It was so anticlimatic and non-rewarding that those 5 hours we spent playing the game felt like a complete waste.

Also, some items gives out wrong stat boosts. We got two items I think that says it gives +stats on str and agi but turns out it gives stats to agi and int.

Map gets a 4/5 but even with all the minimal crap it has, the ending's the only reason I'm deducting a point on its overall score.

 

[Darthas]

Great Map

So i've beaten this map a few times on pretty much any difficulty/lives (except 1 life) as well as read some of previous postsnon this thread.

First of all... Thank you for this map. It has been a waste of a dozen hours of my life but it was a good waste =D

I also see that you're still working on the map and it's a pleasure to see that as a player, knowing that the map moves forwards (may it be for the best or for the worst =P)

Don't think you will care about this part but I like your mindset concerning the map, meaning that you are set on building a complete dungeon crawler and that you don't try to sastify every whiny baby that comes your way requesting save/load, more maps, ridiculous difficulties (that other post requesting a difficulty with final boss'z dmg 6k-12k with 50% crit or smth made me laugh a lot and then cry a lil' xD). Anyway keep on going.

*Brace yourselves for i am terrible at remembering names =S
The balance is a bit off but that takes time, everyone should realize that. There are some gamebreaking items and spells though :
- As mentionned a few times already, stat-boosting items, a quick fix while finding a better one would be to set a limit as you did for the undead slayer (i think?? The str/agi axe)
=> There is one big bug though that needs fixing asap (at least i guess it's not supposed to work that way), you can proc the +1hp as well as the +1stats by using the str/agi item (to check carges) as well as any other one like compas or worse... the Queen's scepter (really short CD). Those items have a short CD and no mana cost making steroid-heroes easy to make if wanted (I soloed last boss on hard in a 3-player game with a Warrior)
- Another item deserving a special mention would be the "lifesteal" ring (20% of agi chance to steal x% of max life), that's easily 40%+ (200agi) to lifesteal and dmg for around 1k hps on the few last bosses. Seems kinda off for me.
- Stat boosting spells fall under the same category with games lasting 4h, you catch my drift.
- Gold boosting items for the same reason as above (those giving gold/sec)
- Minor balacing on the legendaries, imho agi>>>str>int>dawn

As requested by other people a few more enemy spells wouldn't hurt but we can't be too demanding, it's alot of work (some bosses do need them though : Hydra, Turtle, Firelord, just to name a few)

Another little thing that caught my attention was the quest log, at the end of 1.5.0. I had an undiscovered quest and another undiscovered quest that was "Finished" so we spent an hour running (the big black undicovered areas were freaking us out) around trying to figure it out before giving up and going to singleplayer to use iseedeadpeople (shame on us) only to discover we didn't actually miss anything except a random blademaster. I would really love if it could be clear when you did actually achieve 100% or what is missing, if not "what" then at least "how many" or so because this map is about 100% completition =P For the same reason it would be great to know how many artefacts are available (i'm not asking any tips on how to get them) but just knowing that there's at least one more out there that we can get (playing legit) or not =P
Wow that made a wall of text.

I loved the addition of the book stands as it contains a bit of trivia and i would like to make a suggestion about it, as stated a few times, there is alot of running back and forth, it would be great if you could read the books while doing so (as a spell in the backpack that lets you read any visited bookstand), it would make the map a lot more pleasant


Hope i didn't rabble too much and that it was half decent criticism. Well this map still deserves 5/5 with all the stars, flowers, sprinkles and all that jolly stuff =D Great job!!!
With that being said, finished 1.5.0, finished the review, it's 4:06 AM, wooooo sleep!!!





Other thinkies :

Can i ask for your mindset behind those 2 OP slimes in the 10+ area? =D

Mini-spoilers below (maybe)
And that compas is a real troll in 1.5.0., don't know if it's on purpose but i had to draw a box where it said it wasn't "too far" and use the scepter everywhere near the middle of that ><

Sneaky rogue item placement, almost missed it =P +1 for that =D

Naga can swim pretty far, some areas aren't really closed =P

If you have the time & energy and want to keep on working on this map, i'd love to be an idea-pouch at your disposal if you still need some.

 

[letgoit3]

That's quite the break you took. The map has evolved significantly since then. You might not recognize it

Since the Engineer was taken out, 2 new goblin heroes have been added - The Sapper and the Bruiser. You may find the Sapper very similar to the Engineer. =)

And to answer your quesion directly: No I am not planning to bring him back. However he pretty much lives within those two other goblins.

i just ask is it possible to play as 1 player ?

 

[darkannie]

there is some part of the map require to have 2 ppl or 1 summon pets to go further, it make the map impossible to play alone with every characters, i rather play alone though, can you fix that ?

 

[asam3]

i just ask is it possible to play as 1 player ?

No, it's not designed to work that way. Even if you can it'll be hard, really hard.

 

[Aradar]

Hehe I hope you guys are looking forward to a health bar + a mana bar in the multiboard.

 

[LordVandor1]

Love it =D

This map is one of my favourites,
it's a pvp map but with adventure features.
Its potential is really amazing and it also gave
me an idea for making other maps...
Thank you! ^_^

 

[edysan]

Best warcraft 3 map ever, i love every well made hero.

 

[fr14nd1]

This map is good, and pretty hard too.
I like this map, but I can't get a friend to play together.
Keep going spasorc, I'll wait next update

 

[sethmachine]

I found out how to get the Tablet of Life. My question is now, should I ever get it in a game with others, because then they would know it too.

Also, I was curious if you could answer a question about the Master's chamber--is the password an actual string/text message like for the other door? Or is it something more complicated? I know it's not for anyone but you (the maker), but I was just curious ^^

 

[Anderhil]

this map is keeping wc3 alive, that i why i love it, it made clear to me how efficent can simple triggering and mapping be, with creative ideas and strong backbone. i envy your map master, wish you good luck.

 

[SpasMaster]

this map is keeping wc3 alive, that i why i love it, it made clear to me how efficent can simple triggering and mapping be, with creative ideas and strong backbone. i envy your map master, wish you good luck.

Thanks for your kind comment. ^_^

 

[sethmachine]

I would have appreciated a direct answer to my last question, but somebody already confirmed what I have been suspecting.

I combed over the jass script (it was relatively transparent, despite any silly obfuscation ) and found no way to physically obtain the item in the left room of the master's chamber. There is no region, no teleport, that could possibly get someone in there. The door is never referenced either, except in its initialization--it will never open. In addition, the item id for the wyrm item is not referenced in any trigger except in its initial placement, so I am doubtful there is some hidden trigger that just creates the item, and that you use that room for bait.

I think it's appropriate though that it cannot even been obtained in the latest version, since now the only way to get it would be to have access to the map itself, which means it's just for the master ^^, and so the only way to get it would be to play an earlier version, or altogether just add in a new trigger to the jass.

 

[chaos_gustavo]

Hello,
Could you please check if everything is alright with Queen's Broken Crown (Tiara?)? I played this map sometimes in 1.5.0 version and I remember I got this item in the early game, somewhere near Azsune, but now I'm playing 1.5.2 version and I couldn't find it, at least by now.

 

[CfWolfy]

rly cool map.....5/5

 

[venotrance]

Need Help, was stuck for 2 hours

Hello,

I greatly appreciate the extensive development this map has evidently undergone. Congratulations on such a polished final product.

I only have a few critiques. First, after being stuck for 1.5 hours on the quest Find the Lost Goblins, we realized we had also not completed Reforging the Tiara and Killing Ratzen (idk name). Our brewmaster used some skill to jump across a locked/broken door and enter the troll area of Ratzen, and then activated a rune stone to teleport the rest of us over. I'm pretty sure that is not how we were supposed to get there, but we somehow completely missed that whole segment of the game until we were stuck. Perhaps making the path there more obvious (it seems to be in the right corner of the map, while most of the progression is south to north down the middle). After killing him however, we spent 2 hours looking for where to reforge the queen's tiara. It was so long ago (idk how we were able to progress so far without it - or whether it was really designed to be that way) that none of us were able to remember where we got it or where it should be used.

After scouring the 57 pages of this thread, I was able to come up with a few clues: It is before you entire Feric's Throne room. It is also supposed to be used with the "Spirit of the King". Putting those things together, I decided it must be supposed to be used on the same spot with Apothecary Harris's request to retrieve the tombstone of the king. After 2 hours of using it on random rituals of power and accentuated squares, one player disconnected and we gave up. Please let me know where we can use it so we can at least live with ourselves after spending 6.5 hours on this game, 3+ of which were not even spent playing.

On that note, a walkthrough would be nice. I think most of the players here understand that playing through on your own is 95% of the fun. But if you had a walkthrough, then you wouldn't get the same question over and over. And when I, or someone like me, gets stuck for 2 hours, they could just look up that smell segment of the walkthrough for help.

Thanks so much,
Shwang