sum ability help for sum guy

Holy Cannoli · Jun 10, 2008

I'm working on a gladiator arena, this is more of a project for me and some friends to screw around via LAN so you probably won't see it. I'm planning to ask for help with multiple abilities as time goes on, but for now I just want help on this one

I'm trying to make a unit with a special minigun, one of his abilities is that every time he attacks, his attack speed increases and his armor goes down. I also want it too stack.
A timer system would also be great, like 20 seconds between attacks and he loses either one or all of his attack buffs

Also I am trying to modify clusterrockets so that instead of targeting an area he automatically shoots rockets all round himself

-Berz- · Jun 10, 2008

For cluster rockets... just use fan of knives set the targets to 1 and targets aloved. Remove all effect, just set misle art to (cluster rocket) and also add some misle arc like 0.30

spiwn · Jun 10, 2008

Um, no, that would shoot out some rockets, dealing damage to one unit.
Shortly for the rockets:
Dummy spell Dummy unit Add Cluster rockets to it, cast cluster rockets at location of the casting unit.

Kwah · Jun 10, 2008

Easy.

Listen to spwin.

About the minigun.

Armour is a pain. To adjust armour you have to have a devotion aura that targets self and increses with level/# of attacks. Do the same thing for his attack speed with an endurance aura with no ms bonus.

emperor_d3st · Jun 10, 2008

Actually it's not that simple to adjust armor and AS and other kind of stuff. You'll need this system:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65622

Kwah · Jun 10, 2008

Or you could add auras. It is messy but works.

spiwn · Jun 10, 2008

I 'd go with auras on this one.
P.s. FFS people stop messing up my nick

GhostWolf · Jun 10, 2008

emperor_d3st said:
Actually it's not that simple to adjust armor and AS and other kind of stuff. You'll need this system:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65622

It works the same way, and since this people have no idea on how to use Jass...

Kwah · Jun 10, 2008

Hey!

I am learning. I can call functions, set variables, show messages and much other simple stuff!

emperor_d3st · Jun 10, 2008

Well, I don't know if they know about the remove item ability bug abuse. I highly doubt it.

Holy Cannoli · Jun 11, 2008

wow thanks for all the help... I scrapped the minigun idea for instead a rocket launcher that the unit can enter a state where he fires fast as hell, but any hit will cause him to explode

also I scrapped the clusterrockets idea for one where he calls in an airstrike, I'm just playing around with the triggers to find out what works

Kwah · Jun 12, 2008

Meh, air strike is easy. Just make a long range flame strike.

Holy Cannoli · Jun 12, 2008

and what I mean is summoning a beacon that tell another unit via triggers to shoot over at the beacon.

well I don't have any more questions about abilities (for now) but I was wondering if someone could either tell me or give me a link to how to put an image in place of the map preview

and also how do I make a trigger to order a unit to cast a custom ability?

Kwah · Jun 12, 2008

Ahh, that is rather easy. (Use search button).

Import a .tga file that is either 128x128 or 256x256. 128x128 reduces map selection lag.

change the path to "war3mapPreview.tga".

This will now be your map preview.

Holy Cannoli · Jun 12, 2008

cool thanks... now does anyone know the trigger code for ordering a unit to cast a custom ability at target unit

Skudgemuffin · Jun 12, 2008

I'm not totally sure about this, but in your ability find the 'Order String - Use/Turn On' field. If it's a target-unit ability like you want it to be (Death Pact for example) then the trigger would just be this:

Unit - Order unit1 to Undead Death Knight - Death Pact unit2

Like I said, I'm not 100% sure about this, but it might work.

Holy Cannoli · Jun 12, 2008

thanks for at least posting

how do you make it so you can give abilities (such as auras) negative values

spiwn · Jun 12, 2008

Hold shift and press enter or pres shift and double click on the field you want to enter negative values in.

Holy Cannoli · Jun 12, 2008

thanks for helping

is there an ability that is activated (auto self target) and causes the unit's regeneration to increase

that and I tried it and it gave me an error I just don't know if it's my own crappy scripting, the unit name is barrage tower level 1 and the ability is barrage level 1 the ability is in neutral hostile

also I want to know how to script a condition to check what level a hero ability is

I also need to know how to randomly generate a number in the triggers then make a trigger act upon what number (for a % chance to do ____)

Skudgemuffin · Jun 12, 2008

> I also need to know how to randomly generate a number in the triggers then make a trigger act upon what number (for a % chance to do ____)

You would use this.

Actions
- Set integervar = (Random integer number between 1 and 10)
- If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
  - If - Conditions
    - integervar Less than or equal to 20
  - Then - Actions
  - Else - Actions

20 is the percent of chance.

Kwah · Jun 12, 2008

I think that you have your values wrong.

It should be:

Random
- Events
  - Your Event
- Conditions
- Actions
  - Set RandomNumber = (Random real number between 0.00 and 10.00)
  - If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
    - If - Conditions
      - RandomNumber Greater than or equal to 2.00
    - Then - Actions
      - Your actions if 20% chance suceeds
    - Else - Actions

The way you had it it had a 100% chance of doing.

Generate a number less than 10. If neumber smaller tha 20. . .

I think you see the flaw.

Holy Cannoli · Jun 12, 2008

ok maybe I should elaborate a bit more, A unit with a certain ability attacks, the attacking unit is equal to the unit type and he had the ability learned, the attacked unit has life equal too or less than 10% of it's total. Then generate the random number and if the ability is level 1, have the number be less than or equal too 10 to do the effect, for the ability level 2 have the number be less than or equal too 15% if the ability is level 3 then have the number be less than or equal to 20% for the effect to take place

I know this is a bit complicated... but thankyou for you're help and I'll give credit too all of you (just incase one of the friends releases it online)

Kwah · Jun 12, 2008

Hmm, will upload trig in one second.

Random
- Events
  - Unit - A unit Is attacked
- Conditions
  - And - All (Conditions) are true
    - Conditions
      - (Unit-type of (Attacking unit)) Equal to Your Unit
      - (Life of (Attacked unit)) Greater than or equal to ((Max life of (Attacked unit)) / 10.00)
- Actions
  - Set RandomNumber = (Random real number between 0.00 and 100.00)
  - If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
    - If - Conditions
      - And - All (Conditions) are true
        
        Conditions
        
        (Level of Your Ability for (Attacking unit)) Equal to 1
        
        RandomNumber Less than or equal to 10.00
    - Then - Actions
      - Game - Display to (All players) the text: Level one effect
    - Else - Actions
      - If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
        
        If - Conditions
        
        And - All (Conditions) are true
        
        Conditions
        
        (Level of Your Ability for (Attacking unit)) Equal to 2
        
        RandomNumber Less than or equal to 15.00
        
        Then - Actions
        
        Game - Display to (All players) the text: Level two effect
        
        Else - Actions
        
        If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
        
        If - Conditions
        
        And - All (Conditions) are true
        
        Conditions
        
        (Level of Your Ability for (Attacking unit)) Equal to 3
        
        RandomNumber Less than or equal to 20.00
        
        Then - Actions
        
        Game - Display to (All players) the text: Level three effect
        
        Else - Actions

This should do it.

Holy Cannoli · Jun 13, 2008

WOOHOO it works (and looks really cool with the thunderclap special effect added to it) now just to add a few sound effect triggers

now I still need help with my artillery strike

The hero places a beacon (a modified sentry ward) then I need to order a tower further away to cast a modified cluster rockets onto the area of the becon

Kwah · Jun 14, 2008

Uhhh, really easy. Will upload trigger soon.

Your Ability
- Events
  - Unit - A unit Starts the effect of an ability
- Conditions
  - (Ability being cast) Equal to Your Ability
- Actions
  - Set TempPoint = (Target point of ability being cast)
  - Unit - Order TowerUnit to Neutral Tinker - Cluster Rockets TempPoint
  - Custom script: call RemoveLocation(udg_TempPoint)

Holy Cannoli · Jun 14, 2008

I did a bit of editing to make it so the more levels you have in the ability the more waves are sent... thanks it looks great too

Hawk you are a god amongst mere mortals

NoNZealot · Jun 14, 2008

P.s. FFS people stop messing up my nick

Off Topic: Add something which warns people to write your nick correct. Like " It's not spwin, it's not sipwn,.... IT'S SPIWN!"

Looks like you had a lots of questions to ask eh. I would suggest you to read some basic tutorials since you got some very simple problems. If you still can't do the thing you've wanted then ask. That's a better way of learning.

Kwah · Jun 14, 2008

Hawk you are a god amongst mere mortals

I know.

Lol, just kidding. I just try to help out wherever I can because I know how annoying it is to be stuck, on a skill or problem.

Holy Cannoli · Jun 15, 2008

alright this one is stumping me, I'm trying to make a system were an ability puts a buff on someone that makes them attack faster when they're attacked, it won't stack. But also it needs to have 5 levels... this one just has me flat out stumped

Kwah · Jun 15, 2008

Hmmm, wait one second.

Melee Initialization
- Events
  - Unit - A unit Is attacked
- Conditions
- Actions
  - If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
    - If - Conditions
      - ((Attacked unit) has buff Acid Bomb) Equal to True
    - Then - Actions
      - Unit - Add Acid Bomb to (Triggering unit)
      - Unit - Set level of Acid Bomb for (Triggering unit) to ((Level of Acid Bomb for (Triggering unit)) + Level of ability (your ability))
      - Wait 5.00 seconds
      - Unit - Set level of Acid Bomb for (Triggering unit) to ((Level of Acid Bomb for (Triggering unit)) - Level of ability (your ability))
    - Else - Actions

This should do. Replace Acid bomb with your buff. And set level of an endurance aura that has many level (minuimum 100) and increases attack speed by 1% each level.

A small glitch is tomes of retraining or learning an extra level part way through.

emperor_d3st · Jun 15, 2008

Unit - A unit Is attacked

Can be abused. Just spam right click on the unit and the trigger will fire everytime.
You should use JASS for this.

ammo1991 · Jun 15, 2008

does it work with .blp or something instead of .tga in mappreview?

Kwah · Jun 15, 2008

No it has to be a .tga

If your program can't do this download GIMP (Gnu Image Manipulation Program) and use it.

Holy Cannoli · Jun 16, 2008

actually you can't use that abuse, it's a gladiator arena and I can set a condition so that the only time it fires if a unit belonging to the creeps is pressed

Kwah · Jun 16, 2008

Huh? What do you mean pressed? Could players just not click a lot then? This solves no problems and makes it easier to bug.

Holy Cannoli · Jun 17, 2008

ugh I meant if I use "unit is attacked" I can set it so the unit belongs to creeps as a condition for the ability to fire, so you can't just have an ally to attack you to keep the ability going

Kwah · Jun 17, 2008

That means that it only works if you are being attacked by creeps. Also some AI's have repetitive ordering.

Holy Cannoli · Jun 18, 2008

no what I meant by creeps is the computer controlled monsters that attack the gladiators

Holy Cannoli · Jun 19, 2008

Alright here's another idea that I need help with, I want a hero that can change firing modes, so either he attacks really fast, but his armor is crap or the opposite, but I need a way to do this without there being two seperate heroes

spiwn · Jun 19, 2008

Disabling one attack with upgrades or silence and enabling the other.
About armor. Hm adding/removing disabled spellbook with a passive that gives armor.

Holy Cannoli · Jun 20, 2008

I was thinking of modifying an endurance aura and a Unholy aura, then switch off the abilities when the modes are switched, I'm trying that out for now

spiwn · Jun 20, 2008

Will work too

Holy Cannoli · Jun 21, 2008

alright I got it, the trigger removes and adds an ability that either adds armor or gives the unit improved attack rate, but slows it down and it has -5 armor without the armor ability

sum ability help for sum guy

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