Spells Section Cleaning

[Daelin]

As some of you might've already noticed, I have started a cleaning in the spells section! It is a huge amount of work, and I've barely finished 5%. But this announcement is not just to tell you this.

The rules have just been updated. ANYONE posting their spells into the wrong cattegory repeated, will receive a warning. And so that you can't say that you don't know what each cattegory is for, here we go:

Hero Making Contest - Nothing may be posted here. It was made for the hero contest and the contest ended. I had to move about 30 spells from here.
JASS Enchanced - If your spells in the map are JASS enchanced (Custom Scripted, not left GUi with the Custom Script action), post them here.
Miscellanous - If you have GUI spells with custom script actions, or combined JASS and GUI spells, post them here.
Normal Spells - This cattegory is pretty useless now. You should post here non-enchanced spells. BUT, as you might've noticed, they need to be exceptional object editor maneuvers in order to be accepted. The rules say clearly that simply object edited spells are prohibited.
Systems - Templates and systems go here, even if they are trigger or JASS enchanced.
Trigger Enchanced - If all the spells in the map are GUI (trigger enchanced), post the map under this cattegory.

Of course there is little relativism here. I mean, some maps which contained mostly JASS spells but one GUI were moved to JASS cattegory. But I suggest you post mixed packs under Miscellanous.

Have a nice day!

~Daelin

 

[Daminon]

I'm very happy to hear this even if it removes my 2 spells I don't care. If they are bad then they should be deleted.
Hehe take a look at those 24(!) Nova spells. Do we actually need 24? No. I have waited for this purge. I wish you good luck Daelin! How about asking Vexoiran for help since he is a spell mod too? :roll:

 

[Drain Pipe]

so if i've used a few lines of custom script with GUI (like just to play anims and remove pojnts) it's considered more miscelanious or trigger enhanced?

 

[Daelin]

Well, actually it's not like that. I said that confusions would come if you use more than one spell in the map, for packs.

For example, if you use a trigger enchanced and a GUI combined with custom scripts, then you could post it in either trigger enchanced or miscellaneous (though I might reconsider it... not sure yet).

But if you have three GUI combined with custom scripts and four with JASS, then you should post it in JASS section. Majority type of spells in the pack determines the cattegory. If there is equality, I would suggest posting in the higher cattegory (trigger enchanced < miscellaneous < JASS enchanced).

Ok, this applies ONLY for these three. So if in your pack for example, you have six normal spells and one trigger enchanced, you should post in the trigger enchanced.

The rule is not THAT strict, but I simply don't want to see non-triggered spell in other sections, or vice versa. Moreover, I don't want to see new submittions in the Hero Contest anymore. And yes, systems with systems. Cheers!

~Daelin

 

[Blade.dk2]

This is needed, glad you do it.

I might look for spells that ought to be deleted and post the links if I get the time.

 

[Daelin]

All sections except trigger enchanced cleared. Now comes the hard part. 524 spells to check... :lol:

~Daelin

 

[Blade.dk2]

All sections except trigger enchanced cleared. Now comes the hard part. 524 spells to check... :lol:

~Daelin

I guess everything there could be deleted.

No offence, but starting that from scratch would be easier, it's very seldom people uses spells from there.
Ok, I know that won't be done but it's my opinion

Good job, Daelin

 

[Rui]

And now ready yourself Daelin. You will get flamed i bet.... "OMG YOU FAGG MOD YOU DELETED MY SPELL" << In my case, I would laugh.

-Rui

 

[Leopard]

No offence, but starting that from scratch would be easier, it's very seldom people uses spells from there.
Ok, I know that won't be done but it's my opinion

If someone want to start it from the scratch, he needs to download it first and see how the triggers work. Maybe you and some people seldom use spells from there, but many of this site's members use those spells.

 

[Daelin]

And now ready yourself Daelin. You will get flamed i bet.... "OMG YOU FAGG MOD YOU DELETED MY SPELL"

Can't wait... I feel like throwing warnings here and there. And btw, I'm taking a little break, I've already looked over 100 spells in trigger enchanced and that was... WOAH... I deleted about 30. And I finally moved spells that were needed to be moved to systems.

~Daelin

 

[Daminon]

A agree a bit with Blade. I don't think there are many spells that people download and actually like enough to use it in some map. And I for one don't like to use spells that I know that I can make by my self. If I like the idea of a spell (which I rarly does) I try do make it myself. The only spells I use is those made by Vexorian since they are far too advanced for me to make.
Another thing that I always thought is that if someone makes template for some sort of spells, then there is no need for all the previous ones. Like Vexorian's Nova template replaces all of those 24 nova spells. My wish is that if someone makes a template then there shouldn't be allowed to upload spells of that type unless they are really unique and special for that type.

 

[Daelin]

I can't believe you are supporting this absurd idea. I would like to remain all of you that even though this site has its restrictions we are not an elitist site. That's why this site is great: diversity. Of course, this doesn't mean that all crap should be accepted, but just replacing everything with templates would be NUTS.

Don't you remember how you were at the beginning? I for one couldn't wait to show my work, regardless if it was some extremely cool or not (though usually it wasn't). And I still remember those spells, and when I see them... well, memories. But I will probably upgrade my spells, maybe even pack them, whenever I get the time to do that. Meanwhile, I'm still taking a break with spells and looking around other sections as well. Icons is the easiest to check. For spells you have to download map by map, and that's annoying.

~Daelin

 

[Blade.dk2]

of course I do.

The funny thing is that I didn't submit anything before I've learned Jass.

But seriously, I don't want this to be an elitist site, but the first GUI spells submitted doesn't get downloads anymore

again good job Daelin, I guess you could mod the icon section aswell (just looked at the RotHE icon gallery thread.. Stunning quality Not to mention the preview you've painted me)

 

[Daminon]

Well I have always thought that the resources should be usefull, not just to show what you can do. But it seemed that I was wrong.

About the beginnin. As you see I'm pretty new to this site and when I joined I already knew the basics of trigger enchanted spells. I have only uploaded 2 spells. The first was the only I have made that I thought was worthy. I didn't want to upload something just to show my skills except if I thoght that it was very unique and usefull. The second one was a request.

 

[Daelin]

I understand guys... It means that you can't really get it. But it's ok, not your fault.

When I joined the site one year ago, I was a complete noob. I posted here to request some spells and The_Raven simply started to answer. I didn't get a thng from what he said, except some basic outlines of making a spell. Then I decided that I will start to learn how to make spells.

A month later I posted my nature spells pack, which is still available. I don't think they are against the rules, and I really think they are original. Spells that break the rules are those bad/simple and unimportable or EXTREMELY bad/simple. Mine are just simple, but are easily importable. That's why I didn't delete them.

After that, followed the sacrifice spell. I deleted it because it's going to appear in RotHE and I don't want it public anyway. I'll update it of course...

And then came other spells to which I'm still greatly attached (emotionally): Vision/Storm and Strings. After that, I started to lose that exreme pleasure of finishing any crap. I think that's when I started to change.

But well, enough about me. I already deleted four more spells (three just submitted and my Reflect) but I will probably get back to the checking "spell by spell". In this rhytm I hope to finish till Friday.

Oh, and as for the first GUI spells, I've deleted a couple of them, because they trully SUCKED! They weren't implementable and had some bad leaks. I also found some of Darky's normal spells for the items which are not good at all (just extremely basic), but oh well, it's Darky, so I'm not really sure if to do this. I may sound impartial but... it's Darky!

Oh and Blade, I was unable to remake your preview, because I rasterized the text. Hope it's not a big problem that underline.

~Daelin

 

[Daminon]

Why delete GUI spells if they leak? I don't think many GUI users knows about leaks. And to remove them, they must know some JASS scripts. Yes they are simple scripts but not every one knows them. I think it's wrong to do this.

 

[Blade.dk2]

I understand guys... It means that you can't really get it. But it's ok, not your fault.

When I joined the site one year ago, I was a complete noob. I posted here to request some spells and The_Raven simply started to answer. I didn't get a thng from what he said, except some basic outlines of making a spell. Then I decided that I will start to learn how to make spells.

A month later I posted my nature spells pack, which is still available. I don't think they are against the rules, and I really think they are original. Spells that break the rules are those bad/simple and unimportable or EXTREMELY bad/simple. Mine are just simple, but are easily importable. That's why I didn't delete them.

After that, followed the sacrifice spell. I deleted it because it's going to appear in RotHE and I don't want it public anyway. I'll update it of course...

And then came other spells to which I'm still greatly attached (emotionally): Vision/Storm and Strings. After that, I started to lose that exreme pleasure of finishing any crap. I think that's when I started to change.

But well, enough about me. I already deleted four more spells (three just submitted and my Reflect) but I will probably get back to the checking "spell by spell". In this rhytm I hope to finish till Friday.

Oh, and as for the first GUI spells, I've deleted a couple of them, because they trully SUCKED! They weren't implementable and had some bad leaks. I also found some of Darky's normal spells for the items which are not good at all (just extremely basic), but oh well, it's Darky, so I'm not really sure if to do this. I may sound impartial but... it's Darky!

Oh and Blade, I was unable to remake your preview, because I rasterized the text. Hope it's not a big problem that underline.

~Daelin

Hah, I remember your nature pack.. The one with "The Three Trees" that's humor

'bout Darky: yeah some of those sucks, but deleting the owner of the site's work seems dumb if you want to keep a future here Even though I wonder he would ever notice it.

As for my preview it's not importants, it's an artists freedom. The preview is just so cool, that can't screw it. Now the thing that makes me mad is that I CAN'T UPLOAD THE MAP! Damn, this site has lots of bug, I'll have to try again (it'll be like the 20th time), or I don't know what I'll do. The map has been finished almost since you send me that preview

 

[Daelin]

Why delete GUI spells if they leak?

Typo mistake. I meant to say bugs...

Blade.dk... It may be that the map's size is greater than 10 MB or something. In that case, contact Veggie.

~Daelin

 

[Blade.dk2]

Blade.dk... It may be that the map's size is greater than 10 MB or something. In that case, contact Veggie.

It's a lil below 700 KBs, so that shouldn't be a problem (damn it), but I guess I must PM him anyway

 

[Blade.dk2]

Recent rulebreakers:

http://www.wc3sear.ch/index.php?p=Spells&ID=1220 - minimap screenie
http://www.wc3sear.ch/index.php?p=Spells&ID=1215 - Minimap screenie
http://www.wc3sear.ch/index.php?p=Spells&ID=1213 - Minimap screenie
http://www.wc3sear.ch/index.php?p=Spells&ID=1216 - Screenie hasn't got any relation to the spell.
http://www.wc3sear.ch/index.php?p=Spells&ID=1201 - Screenie is black (atleast for me).