Space Marine

[Moderator]

[PENDING]
January 19th, 2008
This model is pending for the following reason:
-Stand animations are completely bugged and unusable. Please fix this.
PM another moderator or me if you have any questions or resolve the issue.
--donut3.5--

BlinkBoy: the model's stand animation does not match each other and cause little flicks to occur during the stand position of the unit in-game. The attack animations aren't shown completely in-game. The model requires some retexturing and a sync in the animations. Stand Work also has troubles in-game. Due to all this the model is rejected, please update the model, fix it completely and PM a resource moderator.

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

Before you say anything, yes i know the texture on the backpack is ass ugly.
i am sorry.
i am working to improve the whole model including the texture.
and i will make the melee animation if i could

and for all those that might, view this message, what more details should i put in? like purity seals and stuff.
please comment becos it will help make the model more realistic.

and what more animation do you want in this model.
please send or post a picture of a pose you think would be good. it could be from the internet or even a simple stick figure you drew yourself.

also, this model comes with a bolter already. would you guys prefer a one without a gun rather than this

thank you

 

[Xendarc]

I know you said your gunna improve the whole thing but may i just point out the flaws (purely to help improve on this)
1.first thing i noticed is that the animations are realy chunky
2.the joints like the knees and sholders dont fix together
3.the texturing needs a compleat overhaul
4.and you need to remake the helmet
the general shape and idea are on the right track and when you look from a distance it looks proper also the model's size is too big
well thats my constructive crit.
good luck on improving... looking forward to the compleat version

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

I could do better but its gonna need more polys. especially the helmet
is the current plys too high or could i go for more

 

[adythewolf]

Great job. Hope to see this on the battlefield soon. This looks like the Reapers from SC2. Nice work.

 

[Xendarc]

The polys are a bit high... i would try not to go to high
maybe if you base your marine more on the existing marine already in warcraft3 and just delete/add bits like the helmet and the backpack and make custom animations for it it would look realy good

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Helmet sucks :|

-To be honest :|

 

[Mechanical Man]

Xendarc summarized pretty much I wanted to say, I would add the glow from the bolter in the attack animation. I know is a pain to make it from ingame textures, especially the helmet. (maybe you should base the skin from chaos space marine skin, if you don't have it, I can provide it you with).

And which program are you using?

 

[Arthail]

Arthail

The idea is good but you need to fix all the little errors, and guy the helmet is SICK¡¡¡¡

But it is a very good idea... But a suggets, you should make it without any WEAPON and make some attachements like Bolter, Plasma rifle to put it in the editor with an hability.....

When you have fixed it it would be an honor if you let me make some texture for it...




GLORY TO THE EMPEROR, OUR SAINT GUIDE.

 

[Duke]

i like the model but animations are...hm...they rlly need some work

 

[Massive_attack]

Oh mighty emperor, It actually looks like a fething marine. First chance i get im going to slap of a 40k map in theyre honour.

I totaly reccomend you do more, perhaps a sergeant and/or a terminator.

One last thing, mind making a bolter-less version ? i know some sweet guns this guy could use.

 

[Traxamillion]

this isnt....terible....it needs alot of work the model seems too chunked together the helmet seems to be the worst part.....and i dont like it as much cuz its a blood angell...dark angels ftw

 

[Anteep]

What we seriously need is an assault marine.

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

for animating i am using milkshape. for texture, i dont know what program to use or how to map it on a model. if i did, we wouldnt have this problem with using only in game texture and i could make the model better looking i guess. i shall check the tutorial again. becos last time i could find it. it is there, right?
and i dont know how to base it on the existing marine becos i dont know how to animate it. its like all stuck together. if you havent noticed, my marine model's moving parts are all seperated like a robot. i dont know how to anmate joined stuff

i will remake the helemt completely and get rid of the bolter, and add attachment points. it gonna be a while tho and the helmets gonna need more poly. sorry, i know you advised me against it but i dont know how to make it look better with the same or less polys
Or i could remake the whole thing but thats only one possibility

shall i post the heavy bolter and bolter ammo backpack? it may not be much but its something.

To Mechanical Man. What chaos marine skin? is it on this website becos i cant find it. or am i just stupid, looking for it on this website in the first place.
God i am so helpless (-_-)

To Anteep, i am gonna start making the assault marines and terminators as soon as this model is perfected as best to my abilities. If i were to perfect it, i will try to make the following
Assault marines
Terminators
Grey Knights
Sergeants
Force commander (i think that's what its called, that guy with shiny armor and sword)
Dreadnought
i am not gonna make anything with tank tracks becase i would know how to animate it
should i make devastators too? they just look like normal marines to me. am i missing something.

and to everyone, thank you for all your comments and crits.

 

[Mechanical Man]

IMO, for modelling stuff like space marines, I would suggest you to use vertex modifier rather than milkshape, it would save you much trouble as importing/exporting and animating, unless you make better animation (current anims are not that good as you know and wc3 marine anims could still work). I use max, so I cannot help you much with milkshape. But there are good milkshape animators here, like Rao Dao Zao and donut3.5.

I would rather see already equipped marines, so you can make muzzle effects (glows, flames,..) for each of them.

PMed about chaos marine skin.

If you need help with animated textures I can help you.

 

[1)arkdemon]

just keeps getting better and better

 

[Cham[p]ion]

Ok, I haven't tested this in game but. Right away I notice one thing-- the helmet is nowhere near an actual space marine. Here's a picture... best i could find of a helmet.

 

[adythewolf]

A new texture and you're the king of... kings!

 

[Wicky42]

Trouble with already equipped marines is it means more large imports if you want to use them, rather than just giving them different (small) guns, Mechanical Man.

I would like to see the marine unequipped, and I vote put more polys into the head - the model deserves it... though a better skin would make it easily passable ingame.

Oh an devestators are just heavy weapon equipped marines - only difference might be a different animation set to fire shoulder mounted weapons or somming (lascannon, rocket launcher) and a bulky generic heavy weapon backpack.

BTW this is perfect - just started a 40k project with some mates. the heavy bolter n backpack models would also be appreciated, though good job so far

 

[Massive_attack]

Its like i said, get a version with no gun out there.

But first, fix the texture/model issues.

Edit: oh and the fact your getting this much traffic on a RESOURCE means it has at least some public appeal so dont be discouraged, keep trying and you will get it right !

 

[Mechanical Man]

Is a pity I can't look over the page 2.

EDIT: haha, tricked the bug

 

[Cham[p]ion]

Its like i said, get a version with no gun out there.

But first, fix the texture/model issues.

Edit: oh and the fact your getting this much traffic on a RESOURCE means it has at least some public appeal so dont be discouraged, keep trying and you will get it right !

People have been dying for Wh40k models for a long time, that's why it's getting so much attention.

 

[Craka_J]

The face needs a better texture which resembles the real marine mask. Other than that and the backpack, it's a really good model. Most accurate Warhammer Marine model I've seen yet for WarCraft III!

~Craka_J

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

anyways, i remade the helmet.
see the picture below.
disreguard the colour and texture. i done it so its easier to see.
is that better?
View attachment 20638
anyways its still not animated and i haevent posted any updated ones yet

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Is that Paint?1 >_<

 

[Modo]

A modification of the Footman helmet would get you very close to a Marine helmet. A Knight head would give you a White Scars sort of appearance.

The animations are a bit stiff, except the one where he has injected concentrated caffeine into his veins and his head goes very quickly from side to side

I really like what you did with team colour. If you hadn't done it, I would have suggested it.

Overall, good work. I'd give it 6/10 (-1 for not being Tau )

 

[Mechanical Man]

Overall, good work. I'd give it 6/10 (-1 for not being Tau )

I am making Tau =)

 

[Zombie]

lool hazard trooper!! that's pretty awesome job, I needed sg like that 5/5
rather reminds me of the 4 eyed replica hvy trooper from F.E.A.R. nice job
btw I think you should leave the old helmet, it looks pretty awesome

 

[Massive_attack]

So much better. Pyramidhead, your improving !

I do think the breathing part is a bit big, might want to lower that down just a bit.

Zombie, considering that the old head looks like, and considering this (see below) is his base material i think the new one is better.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Now that one is a (...) load better. I like it.

 

[Cham[p]ion]

Head looks alot better so far. Good work.

 

[Craka_J]

Make sure you give it a good texture with good detail. But yeah, looks good so far.

~Craka_J

 

[TheGodOfIron]

MAKE MORE SPACE MARINE MODELS! I LOVE THIS! MAKE IT BETTER TOO! I think make the space marine melee in an another model. THREE CHEERS TO WARHAMMER 40000!

 

[TheGodOfIron]

Create other units from Warhammer 40k like Tau or maybe Necrons. I want to make a Dawn Of War Warcraft Map! HAHAHAHA!

 

[TheDivineBoss]

No double posting (if this rule is active in here). We got a EDIT button for a reason.

Keep it up, make the helmet better and ya get a nice little 5/5.

 

[Zombie]

massive attack you've got a point there. This new helmet will be AWESOME!!!looks really much better than the last one. btw can sy make a combine civil protection officer (or sg like that)??

 

[Warhunter]

you must add space marine tanks and imperial guards tanks and imperial guards units, and the whole warhammer world thing....
I love Warhammer ^^
I have to bad computer for worhammer so please do warhammer skins that I can add to a map...
so it been like warhammer

 

[TheDivineBoss]

I got a W40K red tank somewhere...

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

if you habent read the b4 posts, i do plan on making more once i finish this one. then i probably make chaos stuff.
i dont know about necrons and Tau.necron might be easy to make but not tau.
and for emperial guard stuff, i am sure that someone already made a lemen russ somewhere. i dont know who it was. i dont have a good memory. i am sure they could make things like Basilisk and Baneblade and all the tank stuff.
and who made that ATAT could make Sentinels
so it is most likely i will only make space marine stuff and chaos stuff. i am saying this so i dont get anybody too hopeful of me making tau and necron and emperial stuff.

heres a dread i prepared earlier(^-^) not animated tho
View attachment 20752

 

[Warhunter]

ok, and I have a little question what for program do you use to do models...?
I looking for a god program but I don´t find any thing.

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

umm yeah. for modeling stuff, i use Vertex modifier and then i view it in Model editor. i find it easier than making the whole thing in milkshape which is kind of frustrating for me to use.
if i like what i see, regardless of texture or not, i import everything into milkshape and then i animate it. After i animate it and set the appropriete texture scheme, i export it to model editor then set the proper texture.
thats how i do it. sounds pretty inefficient using 3 program and going back and forth but it works.

anyways, on the subject of WH40k i am making one of these at the moment
View attachment 20765
God no... hehehe. not the CSM terminator(^_^although i will later on make it...
i meant the little demon thing at his feet. i am making something like that.
once i make the CSM termy lord, that things gonna follow him around.
my question is, does anyone know what its called and what it does? it seems to come with a lot of CSM terminators.

 

[Mechanical Man]

if you habent read the b4 posts, i do plan on making more once i finish this one. then i probably make chaos stuff.
i dont know about necrons and Tau.necron might be easy to make but not tau.
and for emperial guard stuff, i am sure that someone already made a lemen russ somewhere. i dont know who it was. i dont have a good memory. i am sure they could make things like Basilisk and Baneblade and all the tank stuff.
and who made that ATAT could make Sentinels
so it is most likely i will only make space marine stuff and chaos stuff. i am saying this so i dont get anybody too hopeful of me making tau and necron and emperial stuff.

heres a dread i prepared earlier(^-^) not animated tho
View attachment 20752

Yeah, necron would be easy. Especially if you use this skin http://www.hiveworkshop.com/resources_new/skins/804/.

Tau aren't that difficult either

Tau1

Tau2

And Illidan(Evil)X won't make sentinels. (he made AT-AT)

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

thats coo(^0^)ool. the robot guy, crisis suit or sumthin isnt it? my bro loves them. what texture is the eye from?
is that yours?
i guess that will be easy. i was more concerned with making fire warriors and where to get their weird face from.

Q. does Illidan(Evil)X hate warhammer? he made so much cool stuff, i thought it will be easy for him.
(that sounds so faggish. i realise after typing it. "i thought it will be easy for him". if you were offended by the above comment, it was not meant to sound offensive to anyone. so sorry)

 

[Mechanical Man]

Well, I asked him already. He told me he prefers star wars, c&c and modern stuff more.

If you need firewarrior, ask Massive_attack, he found it somewhere, although it still has wc3 marine proportions and stature, but with some vertexmodify work could become more tauish. I also used its texture to make the battlesuit. (if you wondered why is so messy)

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

i didnt think it was messy. i really like it. is it animated because if not, u should.
how much poly is it? my bro thinks its too simple but thats because hes hardcore tau fan.(whenever i play chaos or SM, he says "my firewarrior will kick your termy/oblierators ass if my computer was fast enough"

 

[TheGodOfIron]

omg! This Is The Best In The World!i Love You Creator!

 

[Zombie]

ignore my last posts, the new marine model is ÜBERSUPERMEGAULTRAAWESOMEPWNAGE!!!!!! 100000/5 I love it!
go 4 it pyramidhead, you MUST make more!!

 

[Warhunter]

Imperial Guards and Space Marines owns!
I will be pleased if you make Imperial guard soldier and basilisk
you must make some heroes too....
and necrons....

 

[Mechanical Man]

i didnt think it was messy. i really like it. is it animated because if not, u should.
how much poly is it? my bro thinks its too simple but thats because hes hardcore tau fan.(whenever i play chaos or SM, he says "my firewarrior will kick your termy/oblierators ass if my computer was fast enough"

Well is hard to unwrap, if the texture was not meant for the model. I tried the best way around. And is partly animated, I did not finish it yet, as I lost a bit of interest because I am working on some other models now. Is not very much poly (you can see as how boxy it is) and yes, is simple as all my other wh40k models, seeking perfection for warcraft makes no sense.

And playing what? Tabletop, Dawn of war, ...

Btw, aren't obliterators chaos counterparts of terminators? And raptors could be based on Wildkin model I suppose