Slashcraft 2.1.9

[Bugz]

Nope you just dint post that you updated =p, so i felt like posting it

 

[hunalexnl]

I'm currently working on a new arena. Is there a way to disable footprints?

 

[Bugz]

maybe trough triggers?

 

[hunalexnl]

maybe trough triggers?

Searched for them, haven't found anything. I guess there's a footpring texture that could be edited... Will take a look. I really need it removed, because it's going to be a beach, and champions leave footprints in the sand. Even in the air... lol

 

[Bugz]

might be the model?

 

[hunalexnl]

might be the model?

The model of each champion? I hope not.
Nah, I recall seeing some texture that had a lot of footprints on it.

 

[hunalexnl]

Is it possible for someone's rating (someone who had earlier rated the map 5/5) to get down to 2/5 just by itself?

 

[InfernalTater]

Only if you click the 2/5, thereby changing your rating.

 

[hunalexnl]

Only if you click the 2/5, thereby changing your rating.

No idea why he decided to fuck up my rating (well actually I think I know). He told me he had clicked 5 and it went down all by itself...
Well his comment is rather funny now - 'very fun' with 2/5 under the comment.

 

[qassamzed]

this unique map.... i like it

What happen with skills tooltip ? i must read the info tab to know about hero skills
plz add skill tooltip..just simple and not to much coz it will consume view.

Why you use bad model !!!
i'm not sure about the hero model..
why not use Good model like : balanar ,Magina,arthas,blademaster.
magma model will be firelord

why not use tinker model to clockwerk hero its will better thousand time.

Plz keep update this map
and create more hero ! if you can plz c8 better hero
add some stun,slow,dmg reduction into skill also good.
remember to keep balance

Last
about Block mechanism..
its better to block more dmg and add stun/slow/etc to attacker.so the blocker can counter attack..

coz its seem block its useless
my friend just keep spam attack move with "ancient Tree" and i can't do anything...when try i block ..i still got dmg and he still spam attack move

 

[Bugz]

No reason for more heroes

 

[hunalexnl]

this unique map.... i like it

What happen with skills tooltip ? i must read the info tab to know about hero skills
plz add skill tooltip..just simple and not to much coz it will consume view.

Why you use bad model !!!
i'm not sure about the hero model..
why not use Good model like : balanar ,Magina,arthas,blademaster.
magma model will be firelord

why not use tinker model to clockwerk hero its will better thousand time.

Plz keep update this map
and create more hero ! if you can plz c8 better hero
add some stun,slow,dmg reduction into skill also good.
remember to keep balance

Last
about Block mechanism..
its better to block more dmg and add stun/slow/etc to attacker.so the blocker can counter attack..

coz its seem block its useless
my friend just keep spam attack move with "ancient Tree" and i can't do anything...when try i block ..i still got dmg and he still spam attack move

Can't make tooltips, as every champion has the same spell. They are all triggered, but there are only 4 abilities. I'd have to add the description of every champion to one ability. That'd be weird.
As for models, I've been trying to keep it as neutral as possible. Also, it's not all about models, but animation as well - it somehow has to fit the abilities.
Stunning is something I've tried earlier but it just doesn't want to work the way I want it because of my other triggers. I'd be able to make it, but blocking and stunning at the same time seems pointless. It's like giving the edge to some champions that have melee abilities. I mean, blocking damage that comes from further away and stunning the opponent at a random distant point is rather weird - unless he's in front of you. Then again, champions like Stormy Invader who has a kick-ass Unique would be way too overpowered. Imagine the enemy trying to deal damage to you, you happen to press down in the right second, stunning the enemy, activating your Unique and there goes the fight.
Block is an ability that makes you receive only half of the damage for a second if I remember well. I might add an option to decrease it to 0, though. Good idea.

 

[hunalexnl]

I've just uploaded 2.1.7. I really need to figure out two more champions to replace Magmatic Ursidae and Maverick Automaton. Also, Raging Brand's unique sucks, so if you guys have any ideas that could work, throw them at me.

 

[Marsal]

Well, the fire spawn's death animation is quite nice. Try to make a fire storm with it. For example. At the center it creates a fire spawn around 2.0 scaling value then instantly kill it to play death animation and makes an uplifting spiral of flames.

 

[hunalexnl]

Well, the fire spawn's death animation is quite nice. Try to make a fire storm with it. For example. At the center it creates a fire spawn around 2.0 scaling value then instantly kill it to play death animation and makes an uplifting spiral of flames.

It's similar to the first one that I had replaced, but it seems to work. It's better than the current one, so I'll go with this idea. Thanks.

 

[DaHomieG]

Suggestion: In the settings, add an option to toggle different songs aswell. Switch songs and what not.

 

[hunalexnl]

Suggestion: In the settings, add an option to toggle different songs aswell. Switch songs and what not.

Yup, that'd be a nice thing if it didn't increase the map's size... ;(
Sadly we're kinda limited.

 

[Marsal]

Limited? You have 6,674 Mb remaining....

 

[hunalexnl]

Limited? You have 6,674 Mb remaining....

True, but I want to keep it as low as possible. This is a really short game. Who'd wanna spend more time downloading the map than actually playing it?

 

[Marsal]

Well, nowadays 8mbit is just nothing. Most of the people has internet with 10-120mb speed.

 

[Bugz]

Imao, you can do whatever file size you want :v as long its under 8. No one cares

 

[hunalexnl]

That might be true for your countries. I'd have a hard time sending over a 8 MB file to someone.

 

[Bugz]

Upload it, and then they can download it.

 

[hunalexnl]

According to one of the mods targeting only the Hive community is bullshit, I have to think of those who are on BNet or whatever. Some people never see this page on Hive, so they'll be getting it from other players.

 

[Bugz]

According to one of the mods targeting only the Hive community is bullshit, I have to think of those who are on BNet or whatever. Some people never see this page on Hive, so they'll be getting it from other players.

First of all, the mod is correct... but, if its for Bnet you just cant decide what country you want it specific to. That's rude So you made a game for your own country?.. no one does that, the map is for everyone to play right? then listen to our advice

 

[hunalexnl]

First of all, the mod is correct... but, if its for Bnet you just cant decide what country you want it specific to. That's rude So you made a game for your own country?.. no one does that, the map is for everyone to play right? then listen to our advice

I don't really give a flying fuck about my country. I'm simply thinking of those who have weaker connection. By doing so, both those guys will have a playable map that can be downloaded fast and the players with a better connection will have the same. If I didn't care about the file size, the players with weaker connections would be in a disadvantage. I'm everyone equally.
Imagine someone get kicked because downloading the map would take them longer than the host expects.
I'm listening to your advice, that's what brought the map to where it is now. I consider every idea, and if I think it fits in, I update the map accordingly.

 

[qassamzed]

at end of the round..
can you make the winner facing directly to our screen and play some unit animation... myb little effect and extra zoom...

like real fighting game at end of the round

 

[hunalexnl]

at end of the round..
can you make the winner facing directly to our screen and play some unit animation... myb little effect and extra zoom...

like real fighting game at end of the round

At one point I already did an intro thingy with the champions talking and whatever, but I never uploaded that version because I ended up removing it.
I think your idea is totally doable, so I'll give it a go.

 

[espatula]

I don't think the fire guy works properly, he takes dmg from spells before they reach him and the atk don't deal dmg on enemys (but in himself)

Also a 2v2 would be fun, and maybe adding one more skill to each champion

great map btw

 

[Vengeancekael]

hunalexnl is right, I mean just look at the maps on b.net and garena, only really popular maps have a huge file size because people have played that map before and it's of good quality and at that point, most people will download any new version, just like dota.
However, for new projects, it would not be wise to import too many things, the initial version should be really light and easy to access and if you see a lot of activity, you can start importing more stuff if you so desire.
Also please calm down everyone, don't start a flame war now.

 

[Marsal]

hunalexnl is right, I mean just look at the maps on b.net and garena, only really popular maps have a huge file size because people have played that map before and it's of good quality and at that point, most people will download any new version, just like dota.
However, for new projects, it would not be wise to import too many things, the initial version should be really light and easy to access and if you see a lot of activity, you can start importing more stuff if you so desire.
Also please calm down everyone, don't start a flame war now.

That's not always right. Take a look at most of the new ORPGs. All of them have nearly the biggest size and they are popular just like TKoK or Gaias. These maps are both came out with 7-8Mb size.

 

[Kl3sk]

Is this really an update? O_O

 

[hunalexnl]

Is this really an update? O_O

Yup, was getting time, ha?
I'm planning to update it to 2.2.0 and get it reviewed once more time, hoping the mod rating could go up to 5. What do you think, are there any chances of that happening? ;o
Might even start the whole map from scratch at some point in the distant future... There are things in the system that bother me, it could be better, but it requires me to re-do the whole thing.

 

[Kl3sk]

Yup, was getting time, ha?
I'm planning to update it to 2.2.0 and get it reviewed once more time, hoping the mod rating could go up to 5. What do you think, are there any chances of that happening? ;o
Might even start the whole map from scratch at some point in the distant future... There are things in the system that bother me, it could be better, but it requires me to re-do the whole thing.

A complete remake would take a lot of time, I'm sure, but as long as the concept stays pretty much the same, you might just strike gold (5/5)

 

[hunalexnl]

Okay, I've just given up. The thing I wanted to fix was the movement system - minor improvement with a lot of work, but I just can't make it.
Whenever you press left or right, the champions instantly face that direction (that's the current version). Using a different system, they'd first turn, even though I'm using the 'move unit and face point instantly' action. If I want to turn a unit around and use the earlier mentioned action to do so, why the hell does it take like a second to actually turn around first? Jeez... They start walking instantly, that's not the problem, but damn it, I don't want to see them actually turn around.

Sooo, 2.1.9 is pretty much the last version you guys will be seeing from this map.

 

[Kl3sk]

Okay, I've just given up. The thing I wanted to fix was the movement system - minor improvement with a lot of work, but I just can't make it.
Whenever you press left or right, the champions instantly face that direction (that's the current version). Using a different system, they'd first turn, even though I'm using the 'move unit and face point instantly' action. If I want to turn a unit around and use the earlier mentioned action to do so, why the hell does it take like a second to actually turn around first? Jeez... They start walking instantly, that's not the problem, but damn it, I don't want to see them actually turn around.

Sooo, 2.1.9 is pretty much the last version you guys will be seeing from this map.

Merry Christmas to you too, hunalex XD

 

[hunalexnl]

Merry Christmas to you too, hunalex XD

Yea, same to you.
It's not my fault, it's driving me craaazy! At least I've created a totally working map.

 

[Marsal]

I have a little idea. I was playing Bleach M.U.G.E.N. ~.~. I was with evil rukia and for pressing 2 times the movement towards the enemy she dashed and cut everything in her way. Maybe you could add the characters something like that. For example double up for engulfing matter and he strikes down or double backwards for the fire brand to teleport to the other side of the battlefield.

 

[hunalexnl]

I have a little idea. I was playing Bleach M.U.G.E.N. ~.~. I was with evil rukia and for pressing 2 times the movement towards the enemy she dashed and cut everything in her way. Maybe you could add the characters something like that. For example double up for engulfing matter and he strikes down or double backwards for the fire brand to teleport to the other side of the battlefield.

At some point of making the map I added this kinda double tap thing, it was a dash, but I decided to remove it. It does seem like a nice addition to the map, but the main problem is that I'd have to come up with 10 new abilities that fit the champions. That's a real pain. It was already difficult to come up with 3 for each.

 

[Marsal]

At some point of making the map I added this kinda double tap thing, it was a dash, but I decided to remove it. It does seem like a nice addition to the map, but the main problem is that I'd have to come up with 10 new abilities that fit the champions. That's a real pain. It was already difficult to come up with 3 for each.

Aaaaand that's where I can help you a lot
In my ORPG there will be 141 abilities just for the heroes. There will be a great choice of abilities. It was hard but I made it. 10 new abilities will be no problem.
Edit:

Aaaaand here you are:

Hero	Skill	Activation
Morse Exploler	Ice Dash: A very fast dash that slows and damages the enemy.	double forward
Stormy Invader	Lightning Strike: A gigantic charged lightning towards the enmy.	double forward
Forsaken Assassin	Shuriken Storm: Shurikens spinning around the assassin.	double down
High Tide Ripper	Water Blades: Sends water blades in both directions(Appearance: for example my Cutting Edge spell).	double down
Spirit Adept	Spirit Gatherer: Creates spirits at random directions and heights. The spirits start closing in. Upon collosion they drain hp from enemy and heal the Spirit Adept.	double down
Floral Trainee	Avalanche: Like the DotA Avalanche but looks better and starts from a side of the screen.	double backward
Sanctified Panda	Breath of Fire: Like the original Breath of Fire but blows it faster and looks better(-90 degree spin on breath of fire effect?).	double forward
Engulfing Matter	Eternal Darkness: Creates shadow projectiles(Obsidian Destroyer Missile) at a distance closing in and damaging the enemy.	double down
Raging Brand	Bombardment: Jumps up then a phoenix grabs the Brand, after a short flight the phoenix launches the brand toward the enemy.	double up
Shepherd of Fall	Uproot: Travels to the other side of the arena.	double backward

Let me know if you need other ideas.

 

[hunalexnl]

Aaaaand that's where I can help you a lot
In my ORPG there will be 141 abilities just for the heroes. There will be a great choice of abilities. It was hard but I made it. 10 new abilities will be no problem.
Edit:

Aaaaand here you are:

Hero	Skill	Activation
Morse Exploler	Ice Dash: A very fast dash that slows and damages the enemy.	double forward
Stormy Invader	Lightning Strike: A gigantic charged lightning towards the enmy.	double forward
Forsaken Assassin	Shuriken Storm: Shurikens spinning around the assassin.	double down
High Tide Ripper	Water Blades: Sends water blades in both directions(Appearance: for example my Cutting Edge spell).	double down
Spirit Adept	Spirit Gatherer: Creates spirits at random directions and heights. The spirits start closing in. Upon collosion they drain hp from enemy and heal the Spirit Adept.	double down
Floral Trainee	Avalanche: Like the DotA Avalanche but looks better and starts from a side of the screen.	double backward
Sanctified Panda	Breath of Fire: Like the original Breath of Fire but blows it faster and looks better(-90 degree spin on breath of fire effect?).	double forward
Engulfing Matter	Eternal Darkness: Creates shadow projectiles(Obsidian Destroyer Missile) at a distance closing in and damaging the enemy.	double down
Raging Brand	Bombardment: Jumps up then a phoenix grabs the Brand, after a short flight the phoenix launches the brand toward the enemy.	double up
Shepherd of Fall	Uproot: Travels to the other side of the arena.	double backward

Let me know if you need other ideas.

Thanks a bunch for your input. I think I'll add them in the future, but for now, I'm taking a short break from Slashcraft. I think I'll be able to get back to this in a few weeks, once I have more time (effin exams)! ;o

 

[Grunts_Fadora]

Looks Nice!

 

[shadow2632]

Pretty nice job, keep working so good buddy!

 

[Brambleclaw]

Extremely fun well made. First of its kind on wc3 it seems i like it 5/5

 

[GaLaxY_256]

U'd add victory like MK. Example: When StormyInvader wins, the camera goes near him and then he attack to camera. When atcking camera shakes.

 

[deepstrasz]

I think there could be more buttons to press!