Sect of the Holy Mother 8

[Moderator]

21:45, 6th Aug 2008
Ash: NB: Septimus, the creator requested I review it.

Sect of the Holy Mother 8 is the final part in a long series of Cinematics. Throughout creation, this series has gotten better and better, and this one is certainly no exception.

There are, of course, a few minor flaws. For example, on several occasions the camera flew through surfaces and we heard sounds of a unit before we saw them (death animations, avatar, etc). On top of that, the grammar could do with some touch ups.

All in all though, there really isn't much I can pick this cinematic up on. This is, well and truly, a great show. We feel emotions for the characters, the combat system is great -- especially compared to WC3 standards -- and the music is used to an exceptional effect.

It is somewhat of a gibbon that some anti-climatic moments will happen, the final battle being the main one, but this is hardly noticeable when compared to the rest of the movie. I should also add that anti-climatics are, pretty much, expected in wc3; you don't have the freedom to edit absolutely everything.

Summing this up; it's a must see for fans of WC3-styled cinematic-shows. It rounds the series off to a tee, and leaves you with just the right amount of info to wonder if a sequel-series is possible. Something which, I'm sure, not only myself hopes for. Well done on an exceptional series; bring on the boxset!

4/5

Septimus : Ash, I hope you don't mind me changing the rating to 5.

Actually, I do.

 

[HeretoDLstuff]

First DL from me xD

brb watching.

Edit: Ah, seems abit boring and rushed, worser then you last one. Fights coulda been better. Oh well. Still pretty good.

PS.

Spoiler!!

Obviously, He still had to play the role of nariatior at the end. I dunno why he was so confused.

 

[AntoMarc]

ah I have want to post first xD I watching this now

 

[HappyTauren]

septimus, ASH is gonna moderate this.

 

[lord_ken]

I can see that in the near moments i see this.. I will SCREAM!! Due to the Hell, Devil categories. I will tell you what i think of it after i finish Bugs: Some *Ahem* went through a wall. I got a bit confused. The... *Ahem* Stomped across without any sounds to cover it up. And... Finally... LOL!

 

[Ash]

Sect of the Holy Mother 8 is the final part in a long series of Cinematics. Throughout creation, this series has gotten better and better, and this one is certainly no exception.

There are, of course, a few minor flaws. For example, on several occasions the camera flew through surfaces and we heard sounds of a unit before we saw them (death animations, avatar, etc). On top of that, the grammar could do with some touch ups.

All in all though, there really isn't much I can pick this cinematic up on. This is, well and truly, a great show. We feel emotions for the characters, the combat system is great -- especially compared to WC3 standards -- and the music is used to an exceptional effect.

It is somewhat of a gibbon that some anti-climatic moments will happen, the final battle being the main one, but this is hardly noticeable when compared to the rest of the movie. I should also add that anti-climatics are, pretty much, expected in wc3; you don't have the freedom to edit absolutely everything.

Summing this up; it's a must see for fans of WC3-styled cinematic-shows. It rounds the series off to a tee, and leaves you with just the right amount of info to wonder if a sequel-series is possible. Something which, I'm sure, not only myself hopes for. Well done on an exceptional series; bring on the boxset!

4/5

 

[NinjaDino]

map is awesome, story is great 5/5
Whole series is awesome, your getting better by every cinematic

 

[Septimus]

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1) Terrain - Excellent (5)
2) Ingenuity - Not Available
3) Minor Error - Good (4)
4) Replay Value - Good (4)
5) Fun factor/gameplay - Not Available
6) Use of imported material - Excellent (5)
7) Single player - Not Available
8) AI support - Not Available
9) Camera - Excellent (5)
10) Originality - Excellent (5)
11) File Size - Excellent (5)
12) Balancing - Not Available
13) Packaging - Excellent (5)
14) Credits - Excellent (5)
15) Storyline - Excellent (5)
16) Theme - Excellent (5)
17) Protection - Excellent (5)
18) Quality - Excellent (5)
19) Description/Information - Good (4)
20) Hiveworkshop rules & regulation - Excellent (5)

Total Accumulate Point : 72/75 * 100 = 96

[+] -
[!] -
[-] - The conversation dialog goes too fast, can you please slow it down a bit ?
[-] - I think I found some typo error, I would send you the private message along with the screenshot.

Score - 96/100
Rating - 5/5
Condition - Very Good
Status - Approve
Review - 1

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[Mechmap]

So the last part of these series are finally out. Though I personally think part 7 is better than this one because of the battle scenes, it aint bad in this one either. Its just that I was expecting some kind of spectacular final battle and then it only was that he killed the cultists. Of course it would be very hard to kill a 50 meter high old god with a half meter sword or something.

 

[tunerband]

Like your other movies. Realy good!!! Nice terrain, good story, very good! +rep

 

[X.e.r.e.X]

Well what more could I say than that this was seriously awesome... once again
I really don't have any major complaints, but why did Richard had to die T_T? He deserved so much more... And why were i last on the credits? >.<
Otherwise it was amzing 5/5

 

[Wildream]

Nice ending and congrats on the completion of such a great cinematic. I would like to share some opinions with you:

1. The dialogue speed seems to be faster than usual, my brother missed certain texts especially during those scenes where characters trade many words.

2. That musketeer model makes the character looks as if he lacks confidence (the way he slouches and keep rubbing his nose).

3. I think this chapter is quite short for an ending, I expected it to be longer. Maybe it's just me, you know, I hope good stuff lasts longer.

Anyway it's a fantastic cinematic which I'll remember for life. Looking forward to see your future works, all the best man,

 

[AntoMarc]

Here its my review :
[+] Very good story it was a bit sad at ending for me I want more parts . the story was in theme near all time probable sometimes it start a bit confusing but it was back again in the other part not like some serials who have good story but it starts to be out of theme and confusing
[+] Terrain was good ( probable great ) I like to see custom doodads , trees
[+] Custom models and imports this things are always nice to see .
[+] Music & sounds are good it creates a nice atmosphere and they fits with story
[+] Good combat system & actions the battle with the hell knights or what are they was awesome
[+] At overall camera was good it some parts could be more good
[+] The credits are fun and original
[-] Some dialogs were very fast I don't know why Nikola don't kill Karolina because I can't read but the others fast dialogs are short ( near 5 words )

My comment : Awesome cinematic If the dialog was little slow a bit I will give a 6/5 now a 4.9/5 or 5/5 , Good use of imports music/models/skins . I want more parts of this cinematic . Good job and + rep

 

[NearbyHermit]

I shall start my view of this last part of this wonderful cinematic,then followed by a small review!

Edit*

Yeah,just as my expectations,the final part wraps it all up,thumbs up CM!

Well,as I promised,a review:

[+]The storyline fits well as an ending,very epic and very emotionally bond!
[+]Pretty neat scenes,such as digging for Nikola and Karolina or when the corprass killed Richard.
[+]The terrain was good
[+]It was also scary and contained some humor,a pretty rare combination.
[+]If people observed,there were many so-called NPC's from the other parts and I found that scene ,where the Scout hunted down raccoons( Dag nab it! ) It was very funny!
[/]Too many man to man confrontations
[/]Those moans from well were pretty scary,but they were repeating and became boring
[/]Why didn't you added a more elaborate battle?
[/]Some camera issues,as when they talked about a person,that person was not in the scene.Or when Nikola said something,his head was not in the scene!
[/]Unit issues,they passed a bit too much trough walls and objects,it was a bit too obvious!
[/]The Holy Mother was a ''Holy Father'' Efreet!
[-]The dialogue ; now why did you made so huge dialogues at such a high speed? And some writing problems.All in all,I really think that the '' - '' shouldn't even be here,but oh well!


Overall: It deserves the 6/5,come on!
Those scenes were pure briliant and I dont quite get why did it got a 4/5?
At least a 5/5,would of ended the whole saga in glory!

 

[UreDe4D]

again awesome work, looking forward to your next cinematics

 

[CMarket]

[/]The Holy Mother was a ''Holy Father'' Efreet!

Ah, but was it not the Serpent that said in part 1 that mortals refer to the Holy Mother as the Red Devil. Almost all of you expected the Holy Mother to be a lady of some kind but in truth the Serpent already told you what he was in the very first part.

Overall: It deserves the 6/5,come on!
Those scenes were pure briliant and I dont quite get why did it got a 4/5?
At least a 5/5,would of ended the whole saga in glory!

Seriously. Some people, more action oriented might have liked part 7 better, but that does not make this part bad, it just makes it less better to those people.

 

[JansiGX]

You made good ending. 5/5.
I can't say much different about good and bad points but one thing was strange. Why Nicola didn't change back into human form in the afterlife like his friend did?

And did Holy Mother really were killed at the end? Nikola only killed remaining cultists that would mean death for Serpent.

 

[NearbyHermit]

Ah, but was it not the Serpent that said in part 1 that mortals refer to the Holy Mother as the Red Devil. Almost all of you expected the Holy Mother to be a lady of some kind but in truth the Serpent already told you what he was in the very first part.



Seriously. Some people, more action oriented might have liked part 7 better, but that does not make this part bad, it just makes it less better to those people.

Hey don't be upset at me,everything must have a touch of imperfection

 

[creyzi4zb12]

rex

very good...one of the best I've seen....I give this a 5/5 mainly because of two things.
great storyline
there were some triggers that I didn't know how to do

 

[CMarket]

Hey don't be upset at me,everything must have a touch of imperfection

Eh...I was agreeing with you. "Seriously. Some people, more action..." was refering to other people that disliked part 8 because it wasn't as good as part 7, not you. You said it deserves a higher grade, why would I be upset with you?

 

[NearbyHermit]

Eh...I was agreeing with you. "Seriously. Some people, more action..." was refering to other people that disliked part 8 because it wasn't as good as part 7, not you. You said it deserves a higher grade, why would I be upset with you?

Ok,CM I was just clearing any suspicions!

We want a Sequel,something about SoThm.

 

[CMarket]

Why Nicola didn't change back into human form in the afterlife like his friend did?

Because he carried his sword into the afterlife. He will change back to a regular human as soon as he drops it.

And did Holy Mother really were killed at the end? Nikola only killed remaining cultists that would mean death for Serpent.

The Holy Mother isn't technically dead. He/she is more like a ghost, exists but has no influence on anything anymore.

1. The dialogue speed seems to be faster than usual, my brother missed certain texts especially during those scenes where characters trade many words.

When I get back from my vacation I will fix all the grammar errors and make the text last longer. Can anybody point out exactly which parts needed to last longer?

2. That musketeer model makes the character looks as if he lacks confidence (the way he slouches and keep rubbing his nose).

I guess you are right, but I didn't make the model so...

3. I think this chapter is quite short for an ending, I expected it to be longer. Maybe it's just me, you know, I hope good stuff lasts longer.

Wow. I was afraid people will find it too long. It lasts about 35 minutes...

map is awesome, story is great 5/5
Whole series is awesome, your getting better by every cinematic

Summing this up; it's a must see for fans of WC3-styled cinematic-shows. It rounds the series off to a tee, and leaves you with just the right amount of info to wonder if a sequel-series is possible. Something which, I'm sure, not only myself hopes for. Well done on an exceptional series

Like your other movies. Realy good!!! Nice terrain, good story, very good! +rep

Well what more could I say than that this was seriously awesome... once again It was amzing 5/5

Anyway it's a fantastic cinematic which I'll remember for life. Looking forward to see your future works, all the best man,

My comment : Awesome cinematic If the dialog was little slow a bit I will give a 6/5 now a 4.9/5 or 5/5 , Good use of imports music/models/skins . I want more parts of this cinematic . Good job and + rep

Overall: It deserves the 6/5,come on!
Those scenes were pure briliant and I dont quite get why did it got a 4/5?
At least a 5/5,would of ended the whole saga in glory!

again awesome work, looking forward to your next cinematics

very good...one of the best I've seen....I give this a 5/5

You made good ending. 5/5.

Thank you all! All your comments get me more motivated to work on the next cinematic series.

 

[NearbyHermit]

I feel like I have contributed!

 

[creyzi4zb12]

I remember ur first maps at mapsnmods...heheh, and I gotta say, u really have improved a lot..remember my Battle Royale maps?

 

[Rui]

I have watched the whole series. I go emotional with beautiful stories.
Here I will give a review of the entire series and not just this one.

[+]Hive Workshop Requirements: I believe there is no episode that did not obey the rules. I found that that you forgot to put (at least some of episodes) in Medieval / Warcraft, but I'll ignore this.
[+]Special Effects: The special effects were, from the start, a frequent thing to see in these series. I also noticed the improvement when using them, I got impressed with those fireball tricks against the House of Dusk's leader. I got no reason not to grant a shiny green plus here!
[+]Story & Originality: The Sect of the Holy Mother may have been just another Human versus Undead story, but I must admit, the story got better and better, and this became evident early, right at chapter 2.
The story was different. Happens in the universe of Warcraft, yet it is original, and I like original stories, so I'm giving another green plus here. I hope your next story (if you make any) is at least as good as this one.
[+]Imported Material: Aside from the weird portraits, the music and sound you imported fit greatly. Ending the movie with an "Evenstar" and the "how many roads have you traveled" (I don't have the track but I know the song from TV series) was one of your best ideas. And, of course, the series couldn't have missed a nice minimap image. The skeletal ghost, warmage skeleton, red demon and Undead chariot were certainly good choices. Good job.
[+]Bugs & Otherwise Good: The only bugs I found was some small details here and there (I mentioned some of them in the previous chapters). We can't be expecting many bugs off a cinematic, I guess, especially as good as this one.
[+]Music/Sound: In the early episodes I found that sometimes the music would not fit for it's use, yet the use of music and sound improved as you acquired experience.
[+]Terrain: I confess, I felt inclined to give a plus/minus here, but I guess the custom Ashenvale trees convinced me (dammit), as well as the indoors.
I am not granting a green plus here because I feel you only work with custom doodads. Back in my days I'd be called a great terrainer (don't take CotM Azeroth as an example), yet today I doubt I would. Back in the old days, elevation, ground texture variation, good doodad placement along with raw terrain techniques counted greatly. Today, people only care about custom doodads. I don't blame them - as I said above, these custom doodads have the ability to surprise people, at least people of the "old days" such as me.
These raw techniques might not be as important today as they once were, but I cannot give you a green plus due to some lack of elevation in some episodes, as well as the lack of tile variation throughout the entire series.
[+/-]Camera: The camera was decently used, however, in most of the cinematic I feel it could have had a little more action, and other use. For example, in the path to the guarded outpost, you could have used different camera angles as they walked. Instead the camera followed the path all the way down.
I should also note that the first person camera did not work that well. It always keeps the same height, so obviously it doesn't look realistic. I don't blame you, this is still Warcraft III after all.
[+/-]Screenplay: You already know my opinion about the Lord of the Rings quotes - the script should be totally original. Why not create your own quotes? I liked the Lazar quote: "Dreams are like stars. You can't touch them, but if you follow them, they'll lead you to your destiny". I am nearly sure this is a quote you got from somewhere else as well.
There are also some words that should have been revised, and certain speeches that could have been improved. All in all, I felt inclined to give a minus here, but I guess it wasn't that bad.


These series were just what I - and I believe other people will have the same opinion as me - needed to get inspired. The improvement was also a plus, people who watch the series will never know what improvement to expect in the next chapter.
I'll await for the "boxset". But please, do not change anything in the cinematic besides the triggers needed to make it functional as a campaign. I like the work to be kept fully original, they are our 'roots' after all.
My rating for the series is a 17/20, approximately 4 (Recommended). Don't let this pull you down. After analyzing the things I mentioned above, you clearly get that the cinematic could have been better in some details, but frankly there are scenes in certain chapters that make you want to rate it a 5.
Good job, I hope you keep it up.

~Thank you for using the Hive Workshop

 

[NearbyHermit]

Good Rui,good!

Certainly it will encourage him to continue the series!

 

[HFR]

This is just the best cinematic series in this site!!!
I give it an 100000/5!!! and the part 6 is creepy...
But I can't open it in the game, the only way that I can see it is open the world editor and click on Test map.

 

[Murcky]

Hmm..odd, i can only see the first cinematic. the others dosent show in the game, so i cant pick em and watch em..anybody might know whats wrong?


Edit: Nvm, began using the world editor to test map it like HFR did. Love all episodes!! to bad its over ;( wish there were more... XD

 

[ThePanda]

I have no words to express the imba of the last 2 parts of SOTH. THe things i like the most: everything. lolz gj though i cant believe that after living 3 years with carolina the pirate captain felt her like a sister xD strange

 

[Joe-black-5]

what is your next project, cause this 8 part story is 10/10

 

[HFR]

+ The terrain is great, you used, of course, imported models, but your terraining skills are simply amazing. You combine the experience of the terrainers of the "old days" and the wise use of custom models of the newly good terrainers.
+/- Rui is right, the camera could have an improvement.
- I simply can't view the map ingame, the only way to see this map is open it in the World Editor and click in the "Test" button.

But this map, even with the error mentioned, is still good and I give it 4.5/5. Good work!

 

[CMarket]

Well, thanks HFR. I think the reason why you can't view the map normally is because the name might be too long. For me it works fine, but for you it may not. Try shortening the name by removing a word or two and see what happens. Oh and you only mention Terrain and Camera, what about the story?

 

[HFR]

The story is one of the most creativy of this site! It's not an simple "Human vs Undead" battle.

 

[CMarket]

Glad to hear you liked it

Oh, did my suggestion resolve your problem regarding the maps showing in game?

 

[HFR]

It worked very well. I changed the "Sect of the Holy Mother" part of the name to "SHM" and now I can view the cinematic ingame!

 

[thedeathunterxx]

wow, C market, the end really made me cry . And im a guy who doesn't even cry when i get stabbed (xD lol )

the moderator ( ASh i think ) who gave this a 4/5 , i am disappointed in you.
This was by far the best one. And it doesn't NEED a cool fight scene at the end.
It is supposed to be like a "life lesson" thing. The holy mother dies of Nakola's unrelentless will to help his friends, and his world live in peace. Nothing is stronger than friendship and love. Not even power, money or Death.

122222/5

(lol, i was kidding about the crying thing by the way , but no seroously, the songs really are great to the movie.)

 

[HFR]

Hey thedeathhunterxx, when you gonna release the chapter 2 of the Lord of the Rings campaign? The chapter one "The Shire" was great.

 

[CMarket]

Eh, with all do respect, this is my map thread so I would appreciate it to be only related to the Sect of the Holy Mother(and possibly The Lone Panther).

 

[HFR]

Oh, sorry... But why The Lone Panther ? Did you make it ?

 

[CMarket]

No, it's the new cinematic series I am working on. It will take place in the same world about 25 years after the events in the Sect of the Holy Mother.

 

[HFR]

Ahh, I see. It will show an older Willian Rackhan, Karolina and his growed son ? How many chapters it gonna have be ?

 

[CMarket]

I have no idea yet, but I doubt there will be less then five chapters.

 

[Byaku]

+ Story line is great and terrain is great
+/-
- Dialog is too fast

I rate 5/5

 

[Mage_Goo]

Finally, this is the last chapter of Sect of the Holy Mother Cinematic....
good ending, when the two lover meet again...
I like this cinematic, 5/5....
have you release the lone panther series? I want to see more nice cinematic for you.
GREAT!

 

[CMarket]

No, not yet. In a week, or even less then that it will be released. If you or anyone else for that matter would like to take a shot at voice acting you could take a look at this thread.

 

[NearbyHermit]

Hehe,I can't await!

 

[HFR]

I can hardly wait for this new cinematic series.

 

[NearbyHermit]

It will have that touch of improvement.

 

[Byaku]

I can not wait until the new cinematic have release!

It will be a great cinematic