Second Orc Book of Arkain (Patch 1.29.2 or newer!)

[kuyondo]

I'm getting my ass kicked for 3 days straight, courtesy of chapter 4, and as soon as I finish it, I come here and see all kinds of strats, specifically for that chapter. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I love this campaign, and chapter 4 especially, even if I had to reload a ton because my lack of micro didnt help with unit collision. Thanks for all your work.

On what difficulty?

 

[Manuel Izaguirre]

hello, how can I play it? is that before I had a pirate w3, and I knew how to play campaigns, but now that I buy the original I do not understand how they are played

 

[Ravager16829]

hello, how can I play it? is that before I had a pirate w3, and I knew how to play campaigns, but now that I buy the original I do not understand how they are played

You mean "how to install this campaign"? If so, your first step would be to download Warcraft 3 1.29 or higher.
You can find latest version of Warcraft 3 here. Just be sure, your game is 1.29+.
In order to install the campaign, after download, place it to "Documents\Warcraft III\Campaigns".

 

[Mishal]

Of course not, this is the actual release date!
It was chosen to be the 1st of April on purpose, but I guarantee you it is not a prank.

Can you please upload older versions of this campaign as i am not able to update warcraft 3 and it is not supporting second human,orc ad undead (also true story of arkain)

 

[Ravager16829]

Can you please upload older versions of this campaign as i am not able to update warcraft 3 and it is not supporting second human,orc ad undead (also true story of arkain)

All Arkain campaigns (First and Second Book) are only playable on 1.29+.
If you have older versions of WC3, then you can only play the First Human Book, which is incomplete due to the final mission are made in 1.29+.

 

[Againstallodds]

Guys, has somebody been playing this or any other Book of Arkain on a hard difficulty? Or do you know if there are videos on YouTube? I'm in a mood to see some real WC3 skills first hand, because the one who managed to beat this increadible campaign on hard is definitely a god of WC3

I am playing it on Hard difficulty and i am currently in chapter 8. It is a real nightmare. It needs high lvl micro skill
but strategy is more important in my opinion. The window of opportunity is the only way to beat the opponent and it will be by a small margin.
No way to tower up and defend. You need to be patient and counter attack from defensive potitions.

 

[Rlciu]

I am playing it on Hard difficulty and i am currently in chapter 8. It is a real nightmare. It needs high lvl micro skill
but strategy is more important in my opinion. The window of opportunity is the only way to beat the opponent and it will be by a small margin.
No way to tower up and defend. You need to be patient and counter attack from defensive potitions.

I have only played on hard from release, There are only a few chapters I haven't been able to finish on hard, mainly the orcs one's , what I can say is that you need patience and wait for the right opportunity to attack, I found myself beaten by the fact that I haven't rushed and attacked when needed or by the fact that I have only sit in base and got overpowered. From my point of view the Orcs maps are the hardest on hard diff. But if you want to learn for yourself better statrt playing and find your own way to overcome the misions.

 

[Againstallodds]

I have only played on hard from release, There are only a few chapters I haven't been able to finish on hard, mainly the orcs one's , what I can say is that you need patience and wait for the right opportunity to attack, I found myself beaten by the fact that I haven't rushed and attacked when needed or by the fact that I have only sit in base and got overpowered. From my point of view the Orcs maps are the hardest on hard diff. But if you want to learn for yourself better statrt playing and find your own way to overcome the misions.

Did you finish chapter 8 on hard?

 

[Lazarator]

I am playing it on Hard difficulty and i am currently in chapter 8. It is a real nightmare. It needs high lvl micro skill
but strategy is more important in my opinion. The window of opportunity is the only way to beat the opponent and it will be by a small margin.
No way to tower up and defend. You need to be patient and counter attack from defensive potitions.

Yes, I know, and that makes it even more exciting to watch. A player who plays on hard needs A LOT of patience, persistance and some good micro skills in order to beat it on hard, which I am looking forward to see on YouTube very much.

 

[Kasrkin]

No way to tower up and defend. You need to be patient and counter attack from defensive potitions.

Ah I see someone else finally understands!

 

[Againstallodds]

I will review chapter 8 and ask for Help.
I read most of the posts here but i didnt find any helpfull review.

Spoiler: Spoiler hints

So i begun this chapter building an army compotition of clan brutes and gladiators for the front line, ( i dont have shieldbarers option)
witch doctors, shammans, necrolytes, warloks, demolishers (heavy supply).
I deflected attacks from the middle and top and split the armies 150 and 50 supply.
With the main army i managed to take down the middle and the redfist camp.
I managed to defend the top attacks succesfully with Sasrogarn as the leader and some spell casters raising the dead to avoid revival
and docs, warlcoks and demos.
The problem was that by the time i managed to do that i depleated my income and i had to expand which proves to be the achilles heel.
Expansion in the middle seemed almost undoable from the way i see it now.
Maybe i ll think somehow to make it work but for now from what i have been through it left some scars on my pride.
i got attacked 3 times from 3 sides at the same time, so i failed hard.
Second attempt was to expand in the redfist base but the 3 entrances are clearly an issue.
I scouted with eyes so i could tp to the base to defend it and regroup for the next move further east.
But this left me really far away from the main base and i lost a big part of it due to middle being attacked at the same time as top and expansion.
Further more the main issue is that you dont have access to a shop in the expansion.
I strongly believe that if i had a shop option i would have made it.\
I bought tp's when i pushed fwd but i used them to dewfend and armies need different tp's so that means that you need to control units from the same clan. That's obviously harder micro

Attacking the base on the north was really an ubelievable fight. I tried 3 times to begin my attacks from there but i lost 3 times in row within seconds
even though my attacks were after i deflected theirs lead by the 2 heroes.

Can someone validate a solid plan?
I play obviously on Hard and i dont want to tone it down

 

[Palnai]

I'm working on a plan, best I got so far is to take the middle base, use towers to slow attackers there if the army is elsewhere and to not fully kill any more bases. Keeping the castles alive but hemmed in with towers will stop them from rebuilding and the Dwarf reinforcements from turning up.
Worked wonders against the Golden Guard on the previous mission too.

Little cheeky but a bit of shenanigans is good for the soul.

Edit:

Spoiler

Forgot to say, I did take down the Redfist base, kept the castle alive and expanded there. I also took your idea of using Sasrogarn and troops as defenders for the Centaur camp though I used a random selection of troops from my army. Built up my forces again: shieldbearers, huntresses, elders, few catapults, spear throwers, shaman, golems, and both types of centaur; got an opening and took the northern base. It wasn't an easy fight but 3 heroes and most of my army coming up from the middle base and aimed at the back of the northern one were able to bring it down with a few reloads. Now there's the issue of keeping the castle alive vs my allies attacks.

Two attacks had been launched at the middle base and one at the old Redfist base in the mean time. The towers killed the first attack at middle with the second being handled by me pulling most of the army back. Purple had attacked my most northern, and alone, tower at the Redfist base and just left after it died. The next attack noticed further towers, probably from being daytime, I reloaded at that point.
The goal here seems to be to use sacrificial towers where possible to keep south safe, the amount of towers needed to properly defend is rather expensive and with keeping the castle alive, space is an issue.

Spoiler: Victory

I actually managed to beat that mission, god that took nearly as long as that Dwarf mission in the second human book.
The sacrificial tower idea for the south base worked on occasion but it was flaky. Wasn't hard to keep the northern castle alive, just block the centaur path and the AI will path around the base. The mission is a constant grind, tons of reloading and trying things again and again to get it right.


After redoing finishing the northern base, with Sasrogarn and his forces for the extra damage for the wave that arrives at the same time, I had enough troops left to actually be able to rebuild my forces; I'd just started slow bleeding to death while trying to do so on the previous attempt.

Once I had my forces together again, this time with a number of Warmechs to deal with flyers, I attacked the base to the east of the northern base. The one to the east of the middle base was rather hard while the one above it crumpled surprisingly well. After setting up here, I had to try and rebuild the army again while having to savescum constantly to be able to defend bases in time and to not lose too many troops in the process. Microing is also something I'm not great with, hands feel like slabs of meat when I try.
Once I got my opening, I crippled the merc's base next, it was easy enough provided the flyer wave wasn’t there and there was no other attack going on. Place isn't anything special, beyond their hero being annoying with his chain healing and resurrection.
Next was the base I skipped earlier, the one about the centre of the map, it took a number of tries to actually take the place; between the defenders being stubborn and Purple attacking. I approached from the base to it's north, taking care not to attack move and kill the castle there; that castle died more than I'd like to admit, be careful of batriders flying above it to a rally point, they will attack it. I got a few of them but I’m not sure how helpful they were in the grand scheme.
I think on the successful attempt a large portion of the defenders were stunned by one of the allied waves so I got time to break things before having to deal with them. I did use Sasrogarn’s ult to take out trees along the side of the path to the left so troops could pour in that way too, into the walled bit with farms and a cannon tower at the top of the base.

Purple wasn’t too bad, the allied waves dealt with the army units outside. There’s a path from the merc base to just north of Purple, it’s blocked by farms, can get some shots off on Purple’s towers and barracks from there but I didn’t really end up using that. Did build a double wide wall of towers where the farms used to be, thinking I could bait defenders out and into it but I didn’t have the positioning on my army right so the towers would just get shredded. Didn’t really try much with the idea.
There’s “Thorn’s Shocktroopers” in the base, heavy infantry and pretty powerful, I ended up attacking in to just kill them and leave. They don’t get replaced, one did get taken out by that tower wall but most fell in combat and thankfully I’d pulled back enough that Thorn didn’t resurrect them.
Purple was honestly the easiest base, few defenders in the actual base and the buildings don’t churn them out anyway fast; just gotta be careful as Thorn and his men are strong but beyond them, nothing to worry about.

I did manage to kill the Dwarf castle and hero in the Southeast, hero never did seem to come back even with their altar still up. The allied waves did take out Purple’s castle at this point and the fliers that spawned in just cleared any air forces I had. You could deforest enough to place towers or bring your army to the base of the cliff so they can assist to a point though some trees can’t be destroyed or cut, oddly. I just rushed around the map to finish off the castles and get the keys, oddly there’s four keys where the hint says three.
Gold is very tight on the mission, probably was a bit too generous on the towers but in general they did pay off. The centaurs, as a faction, didn’t do much to help, was hoping for something but I didn’t need them in the end. You can get a hero into the dwarf base, the warlock guy can teleport to a ground unit, just land a warmech up there. I did set up a base at each mine, just stopped listing it as it felt redundant, to be clear.

Game claims I did the mission in just over 4 hours but that’s not counting all the reloads or restarts, I’d have to check the footage for that. Rough estimate from that is, 15 hours 55 minutes but that's including signing off and other faff.

Edit, keep forgetting units.

 

[xdxdxd]

chapter 4 and 3 are so good i love the part where they send their 50 food army to my base every 2 second

 

[xdxdxd]

bath in human blood

 

[abbsomes]

Chapter 4.

The troops are too weak, shabby compared to Gray troops...
How do I defend them, invading from all direction...?
Heroes skills are really poor as well..

 

[Vexenator]

Chapter Twelve -Risen Resistance

Game require killing all human bases, not only scorge bases are seen everywhere (possible to new objective?)
But game stucks, nothing hapens next, i think reason in new patch from little indian company 1.35.0.
Any way to fix this? I dont have hope what this will be someday updated -_- such a shame, makes your choises all for naugh. It's kinda meme. Playing almost ten days (some mission took 1500 kills per 2-3 hours, discustingly hard and unbalanced) , to see only bad end where posibble to kill all orcs.

 

[Ravager16829]

Chapter Twelve -Risen Resistance

Game require killing all human bases, not only scorge bases are seen everywhere (possible to new objective?)
But game stucks, nothing hapens next, i think reason in new patch from little indian company 1.35.0.
Any way to fix this? I dont have hope what this will be someday updated -_- such a shame, makes your choises all for naugh. It's kinda meme. Playing almost ten days (some mission took 1500 kills per 2-3 hours, discustingly hard and unbalanced) , to see only bad end where posibble to kill all orcs.

The problem is pretty obvious. Shar Dundred won't provide a solution for you if the problem you were encountering is related to the Reforged (1.35).
If you want to enjoy Arkain experience without big issues, you must play on Classic Warcraft 3 (preferably 1.29.2).