Save/Load System Poll

[MoCo]

Hey there,

I need your support for making an important decision on the game's save & load system design.

Well, while the game will feature a save/load system for character equipment, at this point, however, I'm not sure how to set the compatibility for singleplayer vs. multiplayer. For instance, in Diablo, you cannot use your singleplayer character in multiplayer games. I could just implement it in the same way, or decide against and provide compatibility between singleplayer and multiplayer characters. So there are 2 basic variants:

1) No restrictions. You may load the equipment you've saved in a singleplayer game in a multiplayer game as well, and in reverse. This means, you can farm some good equipment on your own and use it later in multiplayer games.

2) SP and MP are separated (like in Diablo). Saved equipment is bound to the game type. You cannot use equipment saved in singleplayer games for multiplayer games. So if you want to build up a highly-equipped multiplayer character, you will need to farm your equip in actual multiplayer games. This variant probably encourages players to play more MP games.

Please participate on this vote and let me know which variant you prefer.

Thanks!

 

[Strydhaizer]

I support SP so , i vote the first one

 

[savinguptobebroke]

I cannot wait , pure awesomeness .
Please finish beta as soon as possible

 

[MoCo]

I would really like to see some more votes here..

 

[3anhemlth]

I vote first idea

 

[sonofjay]

Allowing players to farm items in singleplayer sounds good for a dying game like Warcraft 3 where you have to wait for hours just to get a full house.

 

[MoCo]

Allright. So I guess we got a decision here.

 

[MoCo]

A little update

OK, I've used this sunday to do some coding. This is just a short notification that the save/load system is now fully implemented. The following things are saved:

- hero inventory
- bag inventory
- safe inventory
- item charges
- gold
- ancient crystals (replaces lumber. This will be a new very rare resource, you can use in the later game to buy very powerful items)

By community decision, the save games are compatible between singleplayer and multiplayer.

I've also finished a little bag-system so that you can take out a knapsack to store some additional items. The knapsack has its own inventory so you just can move your items to it. If you keep on moving, the knapsack is automatically wrapped up so it works very smooth.

 

[sonofjay]

Does the save code go to war3 directory like on gaias? cause that will be cool and kinda safe incase you forgot to make a copy of your save code(Happens to me always on Paranoia).

 

[MoCo]

Not yet, but I can add it.

Edit: done!

 

[sonofjay]

Damn.

Now finish it so we can all play.

 

[savinguptobebroke]

How goes the progress? I'm dying for an updated .

 

[louj3580]

I suggest one.

When Game Save, Made folder include me and other players.

This will be problem possible, cuz other player's save code.

 

[MoCo]

Oh, good point! I'll try to fix this for the next update. Thanks +rep

 

[ELECTROLYTE]

To me MP is more fun and with the scaling based on players makes it just as enjoyable as single player (If not more). I'd prefer restricted but that's just my vote =)

 

[Nestharus]

i hope you handle the cheating in single player, cuz otherwise

/immortality on
/greedisgood 100000000000000000000000000
/win



lol


btw, you use acehart's for save/load too rt? ^)^, just wonderin

 

[MoCo]

To be honest, I haven't spend any thought on cheating so far. I even don't know the WC3 cheats. Maybe someone can test this out?

What is acehart?

 

[savinguptobebroke]

just disable cheats in single player e.g. not single player in local area network or battle net but in single player custom games.
You could also disable saving in single player.

I will check if you can save after cheating as I know the basic cheats and in fact used the once on your map after dying on wave 1 ( please don't hate me ) and couldn't load the save I make while cheating.

Also not that cheat codes don't work on battle net or local area network as they are disabled and cannot be used unless hacked , but I'm no expert on the matter.

Update : checked if games that you cheat in single player's save could be transferred to multiplayer

Couldn't load cheat single player save in multiplayer however could load cheat save in multiplayer however could load cheat save in single player.

used : iseedeadpeople (removes fog)
whosyourdaddy ( makes units invincible and do 2000x damage )
greedisgood 1000000 (gives near infinate money )

 

[MoCo]

I have done a quick research on cheat prevention. It seems there is no way to prevent a player from activating a cheat. However, I could easily punish players after they used a cheat. So yeah, I probably could just deactivate saving and set the score to -99999 or CHEATER or whatever.

 

[Nestharus]

just disable saving in single player games. Only allow online games. It's easy to check if a game is single player or not.

I mean to say, allow LAN/b.net games, but do not allow games in single player mode >.>. There is no reason to allow games in single player mode, lol =).

I know everyone voted to have single player mode, but they are just a bunch of cheaters -.-. Ur poll is unbelievable, other maps disable save/load in single player mode, lol. Unless ofc you meant 1 player online vs multiple players online? In that case, allow 1 player. Multiplayer vs Single Player typically means single player mode in wc3 vs LAN/b.net.

 

[MoCo]

Yeah, made it so. If you want to play singleplayer, you now need to start a local area network game with you as the only one player. Custom game just won't work any longer. A clean and effective solution for the problem.

 

[Nestharus]

hopefully you reset codes, otherwise imma play an old version, cheat, and load it in the new version