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Round Table of Arkain

Discussion in 'The Legends of Arkain Series' started by Shar Dundred, Aug 11, 2014.

  1. Logan Raynor

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    GG + Dwarves vs. IF + Elves + Kerrel Army + Black Dragons (not counting the Flame Orders and Sapphira undead party)
    If the GG has any other secret weapon, now's the time to use it unless they want to get spiked at the butt by Thanok. :rolleyes:
     
  2. Championfighter25

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    They have the plan of transporting troops from the continent of the human empire through portals. We shall have to wait and see how much troops will get through.
     
  3. Shar Dundred

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    You mean from the continent with the Emperor who no longer considers them his faithful servants but traitors to be left behind?
     
  4. Championfighter25

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    Yes.
    Even he (although manipulated by the dark entity) knows they suck and doesn't want them anymore. :p
     
  5. Logan Raynor

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    I've been thinking whether the cannon will get destroyed while both factions busy fighting each other.
    They both seem to rely on it pretty much.
     
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  6. Championfighter25

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    From past spoilers about the coming chapters Shar said we are going to use it in chapter 12 so i really doubt it will get destroyed.
     
  7. Logan Raynor

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    Guess I was missing some of them back in the day, may I get to know the spoilers of the last 3 chapters? Oh and about Claire's backstory, heard someone mentioned it before.
     
  8. Championfighter25

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    Here are the spoilers i was talking about. They are for chapter 10( which is released) , 11 and 12.

    Chapter Ten - The Aid
    You will be playing as the Dwarves and fight some threats neither human nor demonic.
    The greenskins are pillaging the dwarven realm and a new enemy, led by Progaderas the Smoking,
    has risen from the deep.
    You will be offered assistance.... for a prize that is not gold. And no, no lumber either.

    Chapter Eleven - The Desire
    You wanna punch Renald van Durce in the face? Well, here you go!
    Keep in mind that the Golden Guard still has massive numbers - you people underestimated their
    numbers severly when discussing their fate here!
    In addition, they are working on portals to teleport forces directy from the other continent to Arkain.
    Also, van Durce himself will be even more powerful in this mission than he was in Chapter Nine.
    Your goal will be to take the cannon and slaughter van Durce, obviously.
    If you made a right choice long, long ago, you might get help from an old friend.
    If you made a wrong choice not too long ago, you might face your worst nightmare.

    Chapter Twelve - The Slaughter
    This is a big defense mission - no, not timed.
    You have to defend the cannon against all enemies - Demons, Orcs, Rahandir's Undead...
    At the same time, you have the cannon and can use it against your enemies - takes a long time to use, though!

    If you want to know Claire's backstory then here is the link to all Arkain short stories.
    Short Stories of Arkain
    Search for ''Diary of a Soldier''
     
  9. Logan Raynor

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    Thx a bunch
     
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    Chapter 10 is the worst map make you meeting the unusual difficulties than the undead mission 8 or second human book mission 9.

    -Located at central,getting rape by 6 enemies if you insist staying on Central by adopting defensive position like before.Force you to exchange home with north west enemy,and reserve area and route for goblins-orcs and fire geloms to fight each and other
    -No allies ,only one time reinforcement.
    -Many Goldmine ,But The woods are too few so that all of lumbers can be consumed very shortly !!! The southern area no lumber!
    -building 40-50 towers this time can not stop the Fire Golem and siege kobold rushing from south east
    -Fire Golem,in fact same as infernals,spawn faster than footman.100 Food army can die as easy as splitting waters.
    -Cant even completed the mission without a team of paladin.Other units too weak.No output from range unit(rifleman suck!|) So dwarfs choose golden guard,for ignoring iron fist,even you use elites or blood fist,also wont as hard as padain can!
    -Therefore the direction and strategies is limited and one sided,if you dont use whosyourdaddy
     
  11. DD Mikasa

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    @Championfighter25

    I wonder...What if Gardon losses.One thing i have learned from this project is that everything is possible.
     
  12. Championfighter25

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    We have yet to make our most important choices so who knows. Maybe they will play a role in his rise or downfall.
     
  13. DD Mikasa

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    Ever wondered that maybe it will not be our choice to make?
    I mean we did not get a say on who we choose while playing dwarves.
     
  14. Championfighter25

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    The thing with the dwarves only happened because van Durce needed someone dumb enough to believe his lies. And yes he said some truths about Gardon, but made himself look like the innocent in the situation which is unacceptable.
    I do believe we will get a choice. Maybe even a choice to ally with them.
     
  15. DD Mikasa

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    I doubt the small lies from Van douch convinced Zarin to join the golden guard.You can clearly see that Zarin had knowlege of Gardon's doings.I mean no one from Goldenguard mentioned the elfs and their fate yet this was Zarin's most vocal point on the reasons why he denied Gardon's help.

    My take is,Zarin had made up his mind way before the meeting with both Holy Bastion and Birram.I mean the way how he confronted Birram on IF's sketchy methods made it look like he had this prepared.

    Besides you cant really call Dwarves dumb.They choose the lesser of two evils(from their PoV).

    Edit (For the forth time):On my eyes Zarin isn't dumb at all...He'd rather take his chances with Golden Guard and set up a friendship deal with them and empire (Van Douch is blood related to the emperor) and to the least secure the future of his people than end up as Gardons slave...I mean where the difference between being Gardons personal puppy or Demons lap dog.One side gives you a nice looking leash the other fills your brain with lies.
     
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  16. Championfighter25

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    Good points.
    Still though he knew the fate of the elves, but didn't care to see what van Durce did to the kingdoms and that he cause the civil war in the first place. He has some serious problems.

    They indeed did. But for temporarily saving themselves they put themselves in a 7 ( armies of Kerrel, Salria, Rengar, Elves, Black Dragons, Saphira undead, Gardon's army and some small golden guard deserters, but i'm no going to count them) vs 2 situation ( they and the Golden Guard). Let's see how this will work out for them.

    The problem is that van Durce has severed connections with the empire completely so that won't work.
     
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    Zarin seems not to really be interested in internal matters. As he said, he judges people and groups by their treatment of dwarfs and allies in general. He probably sees van Durce tryin to kill Gardon not as betrayin an ally but as something of a faction splitting, while Gardon enslaving elves is real bad stuff for him.
     
  18. DD Mikasa

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    1.I think(i might be wrong on this one) the situation was already boiling on the Kingdoms,Van Durce wasn't the main reason of it BUT it acceleratied it alot.There was already rumors of the Kingdoms defecting from the empire add here the Orcs raids,demon constant attacks and the whoal mess that Genethas and Gardon butting heads did.

    The major point Van Durce fucked up was his attempt at assasinating Gardon I cant seem to understand why he attempted such a risky act.Maybe he knows more things about Gardon that the majority of the people on Arkain do...I mean he did mention Gardons father.We ourselfs dont know much of Gardon's origins but based on the diary of the soldier and what we have seen there seems to be some pretty fucked up shit happenening inside their faction.

    2.Most of the kingdoms are struggeling due to the constant wars,elfs are even weaker than before (alot of them died on the siege) and some people must defend against the demons and orcs so even tho in paper it looks like 7v2 its more even that those numbers make it look like.
    And as i mentioned whats the difference between getting rid of the Demons when you are going to end up as Gardon's slave.Might as well take your chances...I guess Zarins philosophy in that moment of choice was...Better die on your own two feet rather then live on your knees.
     
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  19. Shar Dundred

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    You also have to keep in mind what the Golden Guard has been doing: Recruiting and training lots of peasants and others, bolstering his forces furthermore.
    Also, despite what you might think, they stayed out of any battles for a long time.
    Even the attack on Gardon was merely a "minor clash" to them, Retka brought most forces.
    In the Elven Kingdom they lost several regiments, but still only part of their forces. They also lost more when the Demons started to get through the Royal Army, but when it comes to numbers, they are outnumbered, yes, but not like 7:2.
    I am not saying that you give the Gardon faction too much credit, he deserves every bit of it, you underestimate van Durce though.
    They also have the best engineer of the entire continent, supplying them with golems, airships and other weaponry while building a huge cannon.
    They is a bigass battle ahead.
     
  20. LISBOAH

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    But these recruits lack both proper training ad experience. Meanwhile Gardon's forces have experience in fighting demons, undeads, orcs...

    They might have a good engineer, but since they no longer have the Empire supplying both money and resources, their production of weaponry is now much lower. And they don't have many suppliers in the continent given that most are on Gardon's side.