Rmx vs Palaslayer

[hell gate]

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it is not even the final version (as i said a hundred times before) and you already judged it...

i know but if somebody change somethig, i'll cange my rating too

edit: changed rating ^^

@duterium
i don't think palaslayers spell is not as good as rmxs.
i even think it's better

 

[Yearight]

Palaslayer must admit that I really like your spell. Both good but I liked your the most and I agree that simple yet satisfying effects are nice.

 

[Deuterium]

Well Palas I'm not special effects master but I'd go for dynamic special effects (dynamic spiral) which move to the center rather than randomly appearing... and definitely use a model which leaves a trail behind

That would lessen the effects yet more impressive eyecandy, and would seem more in agreement with the spell idea

And yes I get all you say...

 

[Rmx]

OMG i think my spell is SHIT now

Sad but true


Paladon waiting for you to judge the contest all spells are finished ....

 

[Yixx]

I got a comment to make:
RMX: I liked the effect of a portal that opened for those units,,
Palaslayer: You spell is really one i would use in-game,,
RMX: The effects were nice and not spammed,,
Palaslayer: Normally i would say an effect-spam, but it looked really cool!
RMX: MUI, Leakless (as far as i have seen) and bugless,,
Palaslayer: MUI, Leakless (as far as i have seen), but i got a bug report for you,,

I spammed the spell when among lots of footman,, i lagged, and when i could see normally again i saw this:

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Ratings:
RMX: 3.5/5
The spell effects are nice and a nice spell overal
Palaslayer: 3/5
The spell is Cool, i really liked it, but it bugs, that kinda gives you one less point,,
Sorry Palaslayer =\,, but unless you fix it, my vote goes to RMX,,

 

[Palaslayer]

there is not gonna be a poll anyway

trying to fix it as soon as possible

as well, i'd like to mention that gui is never fully mui

@deut
hm, that special effect movement woul be an option, yes, maybe i am gonna do another version with a boolean where you can set whether you want it lke it is now or with dummy effects
as well ,you can change the effect in less than 5 seconds by changing the special effect variable

that bug really disturbs me. i think it would not appear if i'd use a seperate system for the jump rather than implementing it in the same trigger
thx for the report, a friend of mine mentioned it as well

i may use the system thing and update the spell again until midnight ^^


for the judging i'd liek to suggest the following points:


spell concept/idea - creativity goes here max 5/5

theme - does the spell fits the theme (darkness) max 5/5

triggering - well, this is a triggers and scripts contest max 10/10

overall aspects - usefulness, balanceing, use of special effects, documentation and so on (documentation though max 1 point more or less ^^ since we said none is needed)
max 10/10

final rating - everything together max 30/30

 

[Yixx]

vJass is also never fully MUI, even if you use a seperate timer for every cast, since NewTimer() also has an array max, and <STRUCTNAME> array also,,
A spell is considered MUI if more then 100 casts at the same time are possible,, (is what Spell Rules say)

 

[Palaslayer]

no, what i mean that gui needs about 0.005 something to run and if you really spam a spell, and a turn off action meets an init then the init might not work, because the other trigger gets turned off after that.

dunno really, i cannot explain this

 

[Deuterium]

Well basically the spam bugs the game and not the trigger I guess

 

[Palaslayer]

might be. thats what i wanti t to be as well ^^

 

[Rmx]

Well SPAM my spell and it won't bug !

 

[Palaslayer]

sry guys, i am not gonna update it again. i checked the whole spell and the only reason why it could bug is the DS_CheckGroup which should work perfectly. i do no tknow how to fix it and if it is a wc3 bug i haven't got the time to rework the whole spells.

if rmx wins, congratulations, but i think we both made good spells. i still do not know why mine bugs, though, when not spammed there oughta be now flaws in it.

thx for all your interest, hivers.

have fun. cya at the heroes competition.

 

[Rmx]

sry guys, i am not gonna update it again. i checked the whole spell and the only reason why it could bug is the DS_CheckGroup which should work perfectly. i do no tknow how to fix it and if it is a wc3 bug i haven't got the time to rework the whole spells.

if rmx wins, congratulations, but i think we both made good spells. i still do not know why mine bugs, though, when not spammed there oughta be now flaws in it.

thx for all your interest, hivers.

have fun. cya at the heroes competition.

I hope you also win .... .. ur spell is very cool also ..

 

[Palaslayer]

do you participate in hero contest?

my marks are made the day after tomorrow and then i do have 3 weeks school free time ^^

 

[Rmx]

the day after tomorrow

It reminds of a FILM name .. a TSUNAMI that kills all new york ..

Hope you take good grades ^^

EDIT : Yes i am in the hero Contest

 

[Palaslayer]

good. i will beat you there then ^^

it is a film name, but also a normal eh, thing.

 

[Rmx]

good. i will beat you there then ^^

NEVAAAAAA = NEVER! ! ! ... i will fight till my fingers die coding :O

 

[Palaslayer]

we will both not win ^^

 

[PsychoNerdial]

Well that's a little paradox
Since when one person loses, one wins, and if you both lose, both will win, which is impossible as you both losed, which is impossible since... for all eternity

(I'm just being annoying)

 

[Deuterium]

(I'm just being annoying)

And your doing a good job at that! xD

Hehe I'm just joking maybe being annoying too... *rolls eyes*

 

[Paladon]

Shall i start judging & testing?

 

[Rmx]

Yes ofc feel free to judge and test

 

[Palaslayer]

do it ^^

@psyhco there are more participitiants than us two

 

[PsychoNerdial]

Are there? I thought it was just the two of you

 

[Palaslayer]

hm, lol, i meant the hero contest...

 

[PsychoNerdial]

Aaaah...

 

[Palaslayer]

just waiting for the judge, someone close this thread after the results are out.

 

[Rmx]

just waiting for the judge, someone close this thread after the results are out.

Same here.

 

[PsychoNerdial]

Kinda weird that testing and judging can take this long...

 

[Paladon]

The Judge's Review Please note that the judging is based on its challenge proposal and does not review aspects like documentation. Criteria of the judging are creativity, triggering, general appearance and theme.

Creativity: 3/5 Triggering: 10/15 General Appearance: 10/10 Theme: 1/5 Total: 24/35 First of all, you are leaking one unit group leak per cast. Picking each unit of "Units in [...]" is avoidable by storing the "Units in [...]" into a group variable, using it to pick each unit destroying the variable afterwards. However, this heavily decreased your possible marks for triggering although i am quite sure that you simply oversaw it. Speaking of triggering, you tried to make your code more effective by storing the X/Y variables instead of the location. This step is pretty much negated since you instantly recreate the location each 0.01 second out of the coordinates. You save one variable if you simply store the location. Some small taste issues i noticed are that you used a lot of single location variables. It would be much more user-friendly for importing aspects when you decide to use a location array instead. The other taste issue is the usage of setting a specific flying height at a rate of 10000000.00. Simply set the rate to "0" instead. The spell itself looked and worked very "eye-candy", but the idea of pull 'n push is nothing new. However, i was unable to find any aspect related to "darkness" in this spell, except the name. Still, a very nice spell.

Creativity: 5/5 Triggering: 14/15 General Appearance: 7/10 Theme: 4/5 Total: 30/35 Concerning the triggering, i found nothing greater to complain about except the usual GUI-related inefficiency and such. However, i can just quote my sentence in the review for your opponent's entry, set a rate for the flying height to "0" instead of "10000000.00". "0" pretty much sets the flying height instantly to the desired value. A general tip, since you made a large settings description and setup, you could have included special effects there as well, although it's purely optional in this single case. Just as Palaslayer used a lot of single location variables instead of one location array variable, you are using a lot of single integer variables instead of one integer array variable. The less variables, this counts especially for indexed spells, the easier is the import. The idea and its concept is quite creative, and i was able to find the contest's theme represented in this spell. Generally, the appearance of the spell could get some touch ups, the missile's flight looked quite awkward. Next to that, the tooltip and its colouration should be overworked.

Congratulations!

 

[Deuterium]

Review well done from Paladon
Congrats RMX!!

Better luck next time Palaslayer...

 

[Rmx]

Wow so i win 8) .. nice !

Good luck Palaslayer on ur next Challenge .. * Rmx heads of to beat Hero Contest #2 *

 

[Palaslayer]

ehehe. i really messed this spell up. i think i switched too much between gui and jass, gonna prevent that in the future though.

Congratz Rmx! Though you won I think we both can do much better, I didn't like your spell much more than mine ^^

Good job paladon. Cya at hero contest.

btw who cares for rep and neg rep? i think we bet 20, right?

 

[PsychoNerdial]

Congratulations, RMX^^

And no wonder that the review took so long time to make^^

 

[Roflcoptor]

Congratz Rmx!

Good job both of you.

Good job paladon nice review