Replace an item

[HellslayerX15]

is there anyway to instantly replace an item because when i delete it and create a new one at the same location it looks really ugly.

 

[Pharaoh_]

You can hide it instead and create another one.

 

[Starquizer]

Try this:

• Item Replacing
  • Events
    • Player - Player 1 (Red) skips a cinematic sequence
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Set Location = (Position of Item)
    • Item - Remove Item
    • Item - Create Tome of Experience at Location
    • Set Item = (Last created item)
    • Custom script: call RemoveLocation(udg_Location)

But I don't what do you mean by "ugly".

 

[HellslayerX15]

Try this:

• Item Replacing
  • Events
    • Player - Player 1 (Red) skips a cinematic sequence
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Set Location = (Position of Item)
    • Item - Remove Item
    • Item - Create Tome of Experience at Location
    • Set Item = (Last created item)
    • Custom script: call RemoveLocation(udg_Location)

But I don't what do you mean by "ugly".

this is the most weird thing i've seen in a while How would this help?

The problem is that the items position doesnt exist if I don't put in a 0.00 second wait before the actions, and this makes it look ugly.

also i tried hiding the item before the 0.00 wait but it still looks the same.

 

[Starquizer]

This will work fine because you get the old item location before removing it, those triggers are tested before I post them.

You don't have to use waits at all.

 

[HellslayerX15]

My mind is overworked right now but i want the replacement to occur only when i drop an item on the ground and that trigger didn't even start hence to the event.

edit ~ If you want to know what i'm trying to achieve, I need to swap the permanent item with a powerup dummy item because otherwise it will say "inventory is full" when i pick up an item that would fulfill an item recipe.

 

[Starquizer]

Powerup can be used even when the inventory is full.

And for the event I added; it was just for testing purpose.

 

[HellslayerX15]

Powerup can be used even when the inventory is full.

that's exactly the reason to why i need the permanent item i drop on the ground to be replaced with a powerup item.

In DotA one can pick up an item on the ground if a recipe will be completed and you will have enough space, if the item wont fit in, the item will just stay there on the ground. If you look real close you can see that the item is replaced when you rightclick it (if it wont fit). So i assume the item on the ground is a powerup one.

 

[Marcelo Hossomi]

Do like Starquizer said. You cannot remove the dropped item before creating the new item; therefore, save its position before removing it. So, you can create the new item at that position even after you're removed the old item.

 

[HellslayerX15]

hmm so the first "Item" isn't the variable Item? it's the item being manipulated?

well now I have tested it... even though i have tested the same thing around ~10 times, the Location isnt where i put the item, it's where i picked up the item, and thats why i need a 0.00 sec wait to let the editor know the position of the dropped item, but when i use that 0.00 sec wait, it looks really bad. its just an item dropped on the ground that suddenly is destroyed and a new one is placed upon it.

I don't really think i can be any more clear now...

thanks anyways for trying

 

[Starquizer]

If you haven't read [SELF="http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/trigger-gui-editor-tutorials-279/how-to-make-item-recipes-33931/"]this[/SELF] in the tutorial section try it now; it may help you make a recipe system, Although I haven't read it myself but it seems to cover your need since the creator mentioned that he is making a recipe system as in DotA.

Try it and good luck

 

[HellslayerX15]

with that recipe system you cant even make a recipe when your inventory is full...

 

[Starquizer]

Can you try making the recipe items be of Powerup classification and when you acquire (or use) that powerup you set a certain variable either boolean or integer to a value to tell that this certain recipe part has acquired.

 

[HellslayerX15]

I thought that was obvious? the problem is, like i've said fiftyeleven times, that i need to replace the permanent item i put on the ground with a similar powerup one, but that is impossible to make it work flawless it seems. Icefrog must be some kind of genius.

 

[Starquizer]

OK, I am confused. What permanent item that you want to drop on the ground so it can be replaced with the powerup item; do recipe need a permanent item or you will store what you have acquired in variables without having to junk your inventory ?

 

[HellslayerX15]

recipes can only be created by permanent items, you cant even carry the powerup items, they are just there as dummy items that allows you to complete a recipe with a full inventory

 

[Starquizer]

And when the recipe is complete that permanent item is replaced with the resulting item from the recipe ?

May be I didn't understand your problem well because I still don't understand why you would drop the permanent item to be replaced with a powerup, can you tell me a detailed information of the recipe system you need, please ?

 

[HellslayerX15]

And when the recipe is complete that permanent item is replaced with the resulting item from the recipe ?

yes of course that's the basics of an item recipe system

 

[HellslayerX15]

I still don't understand why you would drop the permanent item to be replaced with a powerup

you cant pick up a permanent item from the ground with a full inventory, even if the item-pickup would result in a complete recipe. that's why i need to replace every item you put on the ground with a similar powerup one, because this will enable recipe creation with a full inventory

 

[Starquizer]

OK, I uderstand now.

But you said the trigger I post have some problem and looks wierd in the game do you mean the item animation when it is created, like tomes when they scale up and chests when they open ?

 

[Starquizer]

Is that statisfiyes what you need ?

• Drop Item
  • Events
    • Unit - Warden 0000 <gen> Loses an item
  • Conditions
    • (Item-type of (Item being manipulated)) Equal to Claws of Attack +15
  • Actions
    • Trigger - Turn off (This trigger)
    • Set TempLocation = ((Position of (Triggering unit)) offset by 100.00 towards (Facing of (Triggering unit)) degrees)
    • Item - Remove (Item being manipulated)
    • Item - Create Tome of Experience at TempLocation

 

[HellslayerX15]

OK, I uderstand now.

But you said the trigger I post have some problem and looks wierd in the game do you mean the item animation when it is created, like tomes when they scale up and chests when they open ?

the Temp Point gets the wrong location for the item without my 0.00 wait

 

[Starquizer]

the Temp Point gets the wrong location for the item without my 0.00 wait

You are right I tested this couple of times and you are right, however, try the trigger I posted in #21. I get the location of the item drop manually.

It leaks two locations OK, so I don't a rain of posts "Your triggers leaks" "It leaks" and all that mumbo jumbo about leak, I KNOW IT LEAKS TWICE NOT ONCE.

 

[HellslayerX15]

Is that statisfiyes what you need ?

• Drop Item
  • Events
    • Unit - Warden 0000 <gen> Loses an item
  • Conditions
    • (Item-type of (Item being manipulated)) Equal to Claws of Attack +15
  • Actions
    • Trigger - Turn off (This trigger)
    • Set TempLocation = ((Position of (Triggering unit)) offset by 100.00 towards (Facing of (Triggering unit)) degrees)
    • Item - Remove (Item being manipulated)
    • Item - Create Tome of Experience at TempLocation

i already had a trigger turn off and then remove item and then turn on trigger again thingie, but i didn't had the trigger turn off before i set the temp point, so i tried that... didnt help neither

edit: didnt see the pos. of triggering unit by offset, will test again.
ok ready to go now this might actually work

 

[Starquizer]

Turn off Trigger doesn't stop the execution of the reamaining action(s), I turned it off because items get duplicated and create 2 items, turn it on again at the end of the trigger.

 

[HellslayerX15]

Turn off Trigger doesn't stop the execution of the reamaining action(s), I turned it off because items get duplicated and create 2 items, turn it on again at the end of the trigger.

uhm yeah did i say something else?

well tested your trigger now... and it kind of fails it's because the heroes do not even need to look at the place where you drop the item

another solution is to have the event a unit is issued an order targeting an object and then check if the targeted item is within 100 range, but this also fails because the message "inventory is full" will appear

 

[Starquizer]

I checked now DotA recipe system, it works with a free inventory space. And I can't find what you mean by droping the recipe item then it is replaced by a powerup.

 

[HellslayerX15]

I checked now DotA recipe system, it works with a free inventory space. And I can't find what you mean by droping the recipe item then it is replaced by a powerup.

cant explain that more simple than this:

in DotA one could easy make a complete recipe with 7 recipe factors (1 more item than a full inventory)

so i need a way of picking up* an item when you have a full inventory...

*if the picked up item wont complete a recipe the picked up item will be placed underneath the picking hero.

 

[Starquizer]

The only item that can be picked up even with full inventory is powerups , I don't know and can't figure out your problem. Perhaps you misunderstand something. Honestly, I don't know.

 

[Starquizer]

I noticed something about what you said on making the recipe with full inventory, you said that you need to change the permanent item into a powerup one when it is dropped, right ? I found this don't happen, all recipe componenet are sold as powerups but if the bought item doesn't complete the recipe then it is converted to a permanent item in your inventory. And that explains why the last item can complete the recipe even with full inventory.

 

[Starquizer]

To Moderators: Sorry, for posting 3 consecutive times.

To HellslayerX15:

I think this trigger might work (actually it works but don't know if it is wierd as you say)

• Drop Item
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Loses an item
  • Conditions
    • (Item-type of (Item being manipulated)) Equal to Claws of Attack +15
  • Actions
    • Trigger - Turn off (This trigger)
    • Set ItemToBeReplaced = (Item being manipulated)
    • Countdown Timer - Start Wait as a One-shot timer that will expire in 0.01 seconds

• Drop Ex
  • Events
    • Time - Wait expires
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Set TempLocation = (Position of ItemToBeReplaced)
    • Item - Create Tome of Experience at TempLocation
    • Item - Remove ItemToBeReplaced

<< EDIT >>

The trigger will still work for timer duration less than 0.01, I tried 0.001 and even 0.00 and it worked, but I think you don't need a samller interval than that.

 

[HellslayerX15]

why would that trigger be better than 0.00 second wait? it's the same wait time? i just remembered that the least wait time you can have is like 0.27 seconds and that's what makes it look so ugly

wait just also remembered that timers have more precise timing, i fear that 0.00 seconds wait is too short wait to find the position of the item, but well worth a try.

 

[HellslayerX15]

this is wicked. I think it actually works, havent found a single bug yet, you should have 10 rep points for this.