PC turns off

[Marcelo Hossomi]

Hello there =P

Something weird has been happening with my computer, and it seems that it is somehow related to my map...

After some minutes playing my new map, my PC turns off instantly. I can do whatever I want for hours and hours but, after 5-10 minutes playing THAT map, it happens.

Is there ANY possibility of my map cause this problem? Or is my PC completely bugged (hope not, it has 1 year of use)?

I use Windows XP Professional 256 MB and 60 GB of free memory...
And my map uses Handle Local Variables (since I learned it I use it everywhere xD)

Thanks in advance
Hossomi-sama

 

[KingLz]

Your PC turns off, or your PC restarts ?
If it restart your Windows might have got a Blue Screen (auto restart is default in XP).

That means that there is something wrong with a programm and mostly memory allocation.

But I doubt that a map can make your Windows crash.
Normally just Warcraft should end itself with an error like having an infinite loop in a trigger.

I just can tell you the reson for ordinary crashes:

CPU / GPU heat problems, bad sectors in your Ram, driver issues.

Check your system if the temperature is in no critical area when playing (check after 1 hour of playing or maybe 30 mins).

Get Memtest and run Memtest at the start of your PC. If the first time has no errors run it again. 3 times without errors are ok. If an error appears your Ram is broken.

If you can tell me that there is no restart, just shutdown I would get temperature problems with your CPU or GPU (grafic card).
I really doubt a map can crash your PC.

 

[operator]

I doubt the map/wc3 is turning your computer off. Not quite shure though. But if it is so, your computer is turning off instantly, I'm quite shure it's your RAM memory. Take it/them out blow on them and put them back in.

 

[Marcelo Hossomi]

As I thought it would be xD
I've already gotten Memtest and it's running right now...
I think it's a problem of high temperature but... Why would it happen only when I'm playing my map? Another day I left a download run for 23 hours and nothing happened...

Thanks anyway =D
Hossomi-sama

 

[YoshiRyu]

download don't use the processor a lot
but if your map run AI for hundreds units, it use the processor a lot

For the ram, there is a more insidious overflow:
> set n = n+1
> array[n] = something
maybe this kind of overflow aren't stop by the war3 auto-crash
but i don't think so

can you upload your map, (protected if you want)
so we can test if the same thing append on our computers too

 

[Reager]

have you tried playing other games? since your ram is only 256mb im 90% sure your memory gets full easily and causes windows to restart (running warcraft 3, and other programs like msn, downloading programs etc.)
there is no way that a downloading application by itself can restart ur pc because of memory, it only requires a few mb, while wc3 can reach 100mb+, plus if you have the editor opened thats a lot more mb occupied.

PCs should have minimum 512 mb ram these days, i suggest you to change your ram, if you dont have the money for a 512mb one right now try getting another 256mb compatible with the one you already have so that together they perform at 512

 

[YoshiRyu]

that's great,
you don't know anything about his pc use, but you've had already conclude that he must buy more ram... no comment

if it was an absolute "not enough memory" problem, his pc should crash directly at the soft start, and not after 5-10 minutes playing

 

[RED BARON]

Well I only experied a map chrashes a pc ones, I was playing on some old pc after my own was hit by lightning, and then I had made some mistake in triggers so 100 firegolems spawned each second, pc chrashed. But your problem seems wierd. Could maybe be a windows error, if: use http://www.registrysmart.com/

But else not realy an idea, just that I am very sure it cant be bluescreen, it would happen from start and always. (Btw you know you can create your own bluescreen? Just do as I ones did delete your Cpu driver before installing the new one... dow took long time to fix)

But reager has a point: 256 ram is very slow... and actualy too little...

 

[Violat3r]

(Just sayin) but yoshi he wasnt necessarily saying it had to be ram problem, he was just stating (this is the truth) that computers these days, no matter what kind really, requires a fairly large amount of RAM. And i was actually quite surprised that all he had was 256Mb as almost all comps come with a standard of at least 512Mb these days. My comp i bought over 5 years ago and came standard with 1Gb, which ive recently added 1 more Gb hee hee. So what Reager was saying was that even if its not a RAM problem, he could stand to get some more RAM just for his own sake for the future.

 

[Reager]

that's great,
you don't know anything about his pc use, but you've had already conclude that he must buy more ram... no comment

if it was an absolute "not enough memory" problem, his pc should crash directly at the soft start, and not after 5-10 minutes playing

if you are trying to be sarcastic, you are not funny, btw ¡ know hossomi, we are both brazilians and i have his msn, he has helped me with some triggers; so what i said has no bad intention in it, its the truth and i dont see why you came up to that conclusion...

Anyways back on topic, most certainly it is ram problem, hell, even my pc that has 512mb ram restarts because of full memory when i have wc3 opened for some hours and with other programs turned on.
If yours is not restarting and just turns off then maybe its because of the overheat caused by the memory full.
Try also an anti-virus scan... you never know...

 

[YoshiRyu]

if you are trying to be sarcastic, you are not funny

I'm not english, so i don't try anything else than be understood
You may know him, that didn't protect you from saying something wrong
256Mb may be slow, but running buy more "might" everytime you have a problem with your PC is not the right solution

A full use of the memory doesn't cause windows to crash (memory exist to be used...)
An allocation request when memory is already full used doesn't cause windows to crash, it only cause it to lag in order to wait some free memory, and if free memory doesn't came, windows simply stop the process.

The better reason for a window brutal restart is an overheat of the processor.
(so windows make a crash to prevent your processor from toasting)
Moreover, RAM doesn't overheat, else it would exist refresh system for ram.

PS: (from the official doc)
System Requirements: 128 MB of RAM
Recommended: 256 MB of RAM

 

[Kaitech[SanD]]

My PC has the same problem, every hour or so, it will reset and come out with Your system has recovered from a serious error! This never happened pre-WoW but im not going too blame WoW, WoW is innocent!

 

[Mechanical Man]

Some time ago I had a similar problem. When I played games, after some time the PC turned off automatically and it could not be started again for some time. The problem was in graphics card overheating (it was geforce 2 without fan).

 

[Marcelo Hossomi]

Hey hey do not fight here xD
If you want to, choose place and time, not a forum xD

I've just finished the fourth Memtest test and it detected no errors (I let it run for 30 minutes).

Today morning I changed the... Huh... Something important of my PC which was making a weird noise, and tomorrow or tonight I'll test my map xD

And another 256mb in Brazil is still too expensive to me xD
Imagine, then, how difficult it would be for me to buy a 512mb or greater =P
(accepting donations hahahahahahahaha)

It seems that it's an overheat =P

 

[KingLz]

Short guess:

Your Fan was dirty and could not rotate, what lend to an overheating problem?



The amount of Ram will never be a problem for crashes.
Your PC may get serious slow, but it will always still run.

If your Ram is not big enough Windows will swap data to ur storage.
Thats the fact when you hear your hdd hard working and your PC is getting seriously slow.

Whoever tells you to buy Ram has no clue about operationsystem behaviour.

4 times Memtest should be enough. Ram normally does not break over time.

 

[Kaitech[SanD]]

Can anyone help me with the Serious Error thing by any chance? My computer does not overheat as it has 2 fans and a big fan laying next to it!

 

[operator]

My PC has the same problem, every hour or so, it will reset and come out with Your system has recovered from a serious error! This never happened pre-WoW but im not going too blame WoW, WoW is innocent!

I'm really shure it's your RAM. Pull them/it out and put them/it back in.

 

[Kaitech[SanD]]

O.K. My PC is in the progress of being fully reinstalled, fingers crossed it works still!

 

[Marcelo Hossomi]

I tested my new "something important" and my PC does not crashes anymore *weee*
The problem was indeed overheating... The CPU does not get past 77ºF anymore, the highest it got was 69ºF xD

(I used ºF because my PC shows it in ºF)

Thanks you guys!!!! =D
(thanks Yin-Yang it's not my map =P)