My concerns for suicides

[MAP MASTER]

This might be a spam, but recently I found a total of 31 sites that have very long information about suicide, the people who created it are wrong in many ways, like daminons link, thats a biggy, life should be cherished not perished, thats my modo. Thanks to me learning about what people make these days about suicide I am a little counciler(young, but have good words) ever since 8 I helped little kids with there problems and right now I can name a few people on this site who are suicidle, or stuipid jokers. Because suicide is a huge thing, no one wants you dead, even if you have nothing to live for you can still walk around your block. Even if you are disabled you can do stuff on the computer not including suicide sites. Like if I ever feel down, I just play WoW or get on this site and have fun, brad and Chris help to, they say junk to everyone which gets them pissed and they want to kill them(no offence but its true I bet) They are thinking about other stuff then suicide, its better to be pissed then depressed. Wow, brad, Chris, your accualy helping people with problems you neglect

But anyway, I do know atlease 2 people that need help on this site, im not going to say there names but I bet you all know who they are. Be cool about it, don't make fun of them, help them, do anything you can to make them happy. If I can get the program im going to make a anti suicide site, help the ones in need, because suicide is not healthy for your love ones, and you to.

Close this if you want moderators, I wish you don't because I want peoples comments,ideas, suggestions, or just plain comments. And please be serious, suicide is a thing that people need help with not doing. You can't cure suicide, but you can treat it with your own words, suicidles will need to cure themselves, with help of course.

 

[Kimbo]

You really shouldn't have made this..its best to be quiet about these things...

 

[Mecheon]

Welcome to the Internet

There are lots of people with varying opinions on things, and enough porn to fill every hard drive in Asia

 

[Daminon]

Death makes you get free from suffering and you don't loose anything you would miss... In an atheistic view everyon should kill themselves. The only disadvanatge of death to the people caring about the dead. If they die too then there is no suffering left.

 

[Deleted member 126647]

How can you tell if someone on the site is suicidal? Because of the way they type?

And I don't care if someone wants to kill me, I don't try to make them feel that way, I just do my job. And in some cases speak my opinion (GASP!).

But hell, if being an ass helps prevent suicide, then by all means, I'll continue my bang-up job.

 

[Chaos]

How can you tell if someone on the site is suicidal? Because of the way they type?

And I don't care if someone wants to kill me, I don't try to make them feel that way, I just do my job. And in some cases speak my opinion (GASP!).

But hell, if being an ass helps prevent suicide, then by all means, I'll continue my bang-up job.

Even if we care, you can not seperate them, you can not reach them, you can take care of them, and these guys are a minority

Anyway, not fine to discuss this ?

Chaos

 

[Dr Super Good]

So far no one on this site as far as I can see is in any position to comming suicide since they all seem fine. YES some are suffering slight psycological issues like werewulf, but I did have a similar issue last year and I never considered commiting suicide even for one second. People who commit suicide are eithor mad, have no one left who cares if they live/die, or are fed up with seeing death around them.

 

[MAP MASTER]

Damian, even if we do kill ourselfs, wut do we gain? theres to many religous opinions to make anything true, thats why you should live life well before you die naturaly.

 

[Daminon]

We get released from suffering. We are just born with the stupid fear of death. Yes you might want to check some religion if you want. I have checked enough.

 

[Kimbo]

Dami, the purpose to live is to survive, not to just die just because of a little bit of natural angst or because of some stupid shit like your partner broke up with you.

Everyone single animal, every living cell, every little molecule in our bodies purpose is to survive, if it wasn't, then no living thing would exist.
A sacrifice for yourself is nothing but selfish.

I'm sure people have thought of suicide before, infact i think about it alot (Im being honest here), but I'm still here and i know there will be better days, some people get ups and downs...thats natural..and the thoughts of self harm and thoughts of suicide can get a grip you psychologically and..sometimes i can lose my hold..and the thoughts entice and torment me.

But there is much i haven't done in life..and there is plenty of time to do it...plenty of time. But i don't live in the streets, I'm not forced to drink acid and i don't get raped daily, i'm not bashed by my parents so me thinking of suicide is selfish and stupid.

When you die, you lose everything, the chance of a future, the chance of happiness....you lose every benefit you could possibly gain, suffering is natural and teaches us many things... You learn from the suffering, you commune with it, you never run from it and hide.

If your willing to sacrifice yourself for the benefit of another and not yourself, then thats what defines a hero, while the other a coward, and if you choose to be a coward then by all means shoot yourself in the head.....cut your tender precious veins.....and die....die...yes..die.....

 

[Daminon]

I sick of hear about coward where ever it is. Choose what's most effective not to prove that you are brave enough to to something dangerous. The whole phenomenon is one of the most stupid in mankind.

It's actually hard to talk about purpose without saying that we are a creation of a a higher being. And I guess that's the case here.

Do you miss your 123456789:th skin cell you lost? Just as much will you miss anything in life after death. Saying that death is bad beceouse you loose anything does not work. Death is only bad for the living ones who cared about you.

 

[Xarwin]

You really shouldn't have made this..its best to be quiet about these things...

The only thing I can agree with.
Take suicide as a way of life, it belongs here for some people.
Altough, its being used in wrong ways for wrong reasons, someone here in
my region did suicide a few days ago. It happens every day, with useless reasons, I can't add more.

 

[Technomancer]

Everyone is so uptight and depressed. I think its about time for a big ol' group hug!
*Hugs computer screen*

 

[Wolverabid]

We are all (I suppose) one great family united here at THW- we can support one another through the net when real life gets brutally tough.

No one is getting off this planet alive anyway so we had best live to up to our own potentials and give the very best that we can, while we can.

What Werwulf said was so profound and wise that it's too bad the topic wasnt closed then: well said and well meant.

Excellent post script, Technomancer!

*hugs*

 

[Daminon]

I sure don't agree with the Werewulf.

 

[The_wand_mirror]

Agreed

I'm sure people have thought of suicide before, infact i think about it alot (Im being honest here), but I'm still here and i know there will be better days

Yes your right, but i also thought about just leaving myself alive and killing them xD .. but then theres a prison .. and i dont like to be in a prison ..

I sick of hear about coward where ever it is. Choose what's most effective not to prove that you are brave enough to to something dangerous. The whole phenomenon is one of the most stupid in mankind.

Cowards? ... yeah you should be pretty brave to kill yourself ... but also getting killed by another makes me a bit ashamed, i've never heard of someone getting a revenge after he died so ..

anything in life after death. Saying that death is bad beceouse you loose anything does not work. Death is only bad for the living ones who cared about you.

Well.. acctualy .. yeah .. If you wanna go then just go .. but acctualy what i've got to say is that i dont rly care about anyone else i dont know getting killed .. we all dont .. even if we hear about it it hasnt great impact .. so .. you hear 'hes dead' and you think 'ah' .. 'thats awfull' .. 'not..'

So .. acctualy i agree with werewulf and Daminion and mix the argument

 

[Kitabatake]

Everyone single animal, every living cell, every little molecule in our bodies purpose is to survive, if it wasn't, then no living thing would exist.
A sacrifice for yourself is nothing but selfish.

There are many many insects whose only purpose is to die for their colonies. For example some bees die almost instantly after delivering a single poisonous strike. The same can be seen on humans as well (Suicide bombers, kamikaze...)

When you die, you lose everything, the chance of a future, the chance of happiness....you lose every benefit you could possibly gain, suffering is natural and teaches us many things... You learn from the suffering, you commune with it, you never run from it and hide.

That's true, once you're dead, there's no coming back. Yes the bad thing is that you lose everything, but since you're dead, you won't feel or remember it.

 

[Kimbo]

Kita, i know that. Its a benefit to the survival of the species. Thats why its not what i consider as what i'm referring to in selfish suicide.

And the reason why suicide bombers do it is because they have been psychologically twisted.

and wand, brave? Killing yourself over petting things doesn't sound brave. If so, lets give them all medals on their carcasses yes?

Sorry if im sounding harsh... im actually just in a mood i think.

 

[Kitabatake]

And the reason why suicide bombers do it is because they have been psychologically twisted.

Yeah, human mind is manipulated very easily. If you manage to teach someone from the very beginning to believe in some religion, he will probably be ready to die for it anytime...

 

[Daminon]

and wand, brave? Killing yourself over petting things doesn't sound brave. If so, lets give them all medals on their carcasses yes?

Sorry if im sounding harsh... im actually just in a mood i think.

Doing anything that most people are too afraid to do is what I define as brave not matter what conseqenses it gives. Killing your self is a pretty scary thing so I would actually call a suicide man brave.

Your mood seems to affect you alot latly since you note it often. Well well those who seek forgivness shall have it. Tsk tssk. Tsssssssssssk.

About suicide bombers and religion. You know that suicide is a sin in islam right? Anyway if you find a religion to be the truth and that it might be worth to sacrifice yourself then it's not very strange. I think really few believers who does crazy things does just becouse they have been teached their religion rather than experienced it. Ja ja.

 

[Sephiyr]

But anyway, I do know atlease 2 people that need help on this site, im not going to say there names but I bet you all know who they are

I want too know! and besides I hate the thought of suicide I mean why kill yourself when you can discover more at life . Oh sorry to bring 'suicide' bombers into this...but the suiciding bombers over here, well England really haven't planned it theirselves, someone put this 'bomb' thingy into their bags and they didn't know so they aren't really suicide bombers anywhos if any of you who want to suicide(I hope not) then don't bother cause theres beauty in life that is waiting to be discovered


-Sephiyr

 

[The_wand_mirror]

RE: Werewulf

Kita, i know that. Its a benefit to the survival of the species. Thats why its not what i consider as what i'm referring to in selfish suicide.

And the reason why suicide bombers do it is because they have been psychologically twisted.

and wand, brave? Killing yourself over petting things doesn't sound brave. If so, lets give them all medals on their carcasses yes?

Sorry if im sounding harsh... im actually just in a mood i think.

-_- .. yes brave yer .. i bet one of the reasons that people dont commit suicide if they thought of it is because they just dont have the guts to do it .. Sounds stupid? .. whatever .. i dont make the rules ...

 

[Deleted member 126647]

This thread is really pointlessly stupid, and a lame discussion.

 

[Daminon]

This thread is really pointlessly stupid, and a lame discussion.

Silence! We like these kind of discussions!

 

[Sephiyr]

This thread is really pointlessly stupid, and a lame discussion.

I have to agree with Chriz. there , I don't like threads about 'suicide' and blah. Anyways no one is going to suicide here hopefully .

 

[Tonks]

Dam, in my opinion, suicide is the ultimate cowardice for those who are too scared to face their problems, so they cry themselves into depression and whine a bit and then run away from their problems. It's their fault. If they want to kill themselves, it's their idiotic shitty decision, and they can do whatever stupid shit they want.
It's like highschool. If some reasonably smart kid decides to be a shithead and flunk out because he'd rather spend his time playing freakng video games, then that's his shitty, idiotic, retarded decision.

(Yay for angry music, it makes me angry!)

 

[MetalWarrior]

Dam, in my opinion, suicide is the ultimate cowardice for those who are too scared to face their problems, so they cry themselves into depression and whine a bit and then run away from their problems. It's their fault. If they want to kill themselves, it's their idiotic shitty decision, and they can do whatever stupid shit they want.
It's like highschool. If some reasonably smart kid decides to be a shithead and flunk out because he'd rather spend his time playing freakng video games, then that's his shitty, idiotic, retarded decision.

(Yay for angry music, it makes me angry!)

Yeah, it's your opinion, and only yours. Sure there are cowards that suicide for stupid reason like (They lost their job so they suicide... Hooooooooo). But I had a friend who tought of that once and it was really awfull what he passed trough during this month. He lost a lot in his life and his own family were rejecting him. I had a conversation with him, well more than only one. And I helped him to pass trough this. I know there are ppl that have no reason to do that, but some ppl are really emotive, like I, I'm the my friends come to when they have something heavy on their heart, they can talk to me and I listen them, I help them and support them, I make them see what they need to be happy. It's really an important thing about talking about this, we don't have to ignore them as werewulf said, It's the worst thing you can do. You have to talk with them, cause sometime, it's only a few words with them that can make them feel better.

 

[MAP MASTER]

Post removed by request and probably infringing on something

 

[Kimbo]

You know, its really rude to call people out...so edit it.

Plus, whats the point? Pity? NO, thats dirty, pity is dirty and low.. and i don't think you can help over the internet anyway, even if if give him links or shit, so hes going to have to do it himself and realize if thats the case, its on hes side, hes not your neighbor.

 

[V2.]

I agree that with you that I don't want anyone to commit suicide but I think no one should be forced to suffer against their own will. If you are arguing that it is against the survival of the fittest as your reason to stop people committing suicide, our society is no longer baced upon this survival, the human race has become less and less attached to this theory ever since any form of medicine was created, and this new sense of morality has become entrenched in our state of mind.

V2. - Telling you children to chose life...

 

[demonsofdante]

I had a family member that committed suicide....and just so you guys know there can be many reasons for it, sometimes you just have to hope it was at least for something of significant importance than an ended relationship.

The whole deal is a tragic thing to happen and is extremey hard on anyone close to those that do it. It is not a move I personally agree as I figure this is the one life you get (on this earth or no depending on your beliefs) and you should cherish it.

This is a bad idea to try and change someone's views on suicide and should be done with a professional in a private setting, not an open forum where people often provide uneducated views and inappropriate comments on the subject.

"If you need something to worship, then worship life — all life, every last crawling bit of it! We're all in this beauty together!" ~ Frank Herbert

 

[The_wand_mirror]

Silence! We like these kind of discussions!

I have to agree with Chriz. there , I don't like threads about 'suicide' and blah. Anyways no one is going to suicide here hopefully .

I know your kind of people ..

Dam, in my opinion, suicide is the ultimate cowardice for those who are too scared to face their problems, so they cry themselves into depression and whine a bit and then run away from their problems. It's their fault. If they want to kill themselves, it's their idiotic shitty decision, and they can do whatever stupid shit they want.
It's like highschool. If some reasonably smart kid decides to be a shithead and flunk out because he'd rather spend his time playing freakng video games, then that's his shitty, idiotic, retarded decision.

(Yay for angry music, it makes me angry!)

Yes you could see suicide as total cowardish or just like 'i-dont-like-it-here-anymore-so-i-go' which you should be pretty 'brave' for to kill yourself .. I think many people dont commit suicide because they are afraid of death and afraid of killing themselves so we call them brave? cowards?

And btw how you know whats after death? .. huh? .. maybe you just come back in another form, or maybe you wander the earth forever .. or go to paradise or i dont care what ..

I mean i think
1. getting killed by someone else = i would be ashamed.
2. getting killed by yourself = you may think your brave, but others may see you as a coward.

 

[Kimbo]

The_wand_mirror, not solving your problems and enjoying life just because
your scared of it makes you a coward, killing yourself just to see the after
life is the most idiotic thing iv ever heard of. Being killed by another is
just fate, it happens, it happens and thats life.

Thats like saying your ashamed of the Gazelle being caught by the lion, it
just happens and thats how its suppose to be, it was the gazelles time and he
put up a fight as best as it could and didn't give in, he used all hes
strength. But you don't see Gazelles killing off themselves delibertly just
because they slipped in the river and broke a horn or had one of their
offspring taken.

Id admire the Gazelle, it fought for its life, even against all odds.

They live to fight another day, even if their leg was mangled by lions or if
they have had their back flesh severed, they still try to stand up and
surprisingly some make it and bring on future generations so their species
can survive.

and yes, is a known fact dogs walk away and hide when they are near death,
thats because they may be carrying disease and to cease distress among the
others, and its the benefit for their species, but they don't deliberately
kill themselves though, and they only do it when they have used all their will and its certain they would die.

But seriously, if your going to help someone about their suicide, the
internet is the most retarded place to do it and don't always expect warm
blankets and hot chocolate. If you don't give a dam about yourself, then I'm
sure you wont give a dam about us.

and yes, i may sound harsh, i may sound cruel, and I'm honestly on many roads and I'm trying to sound straight and I'm hoping this is the right road, i too understand Dami in on he feels, but its wrong to think like that, even if its
hard. But like said, there is always someone else with worser problems in the world.

oh..and you guys should Google and look up "Elieza Weasel", a holocaust
survivor, he didn't lose faith, hes mother and little sister were gassed in
the Nazi gassing chambers, people shot, babies and children being burnt
alive, hes fathers skull crushed right in front of hes eyes, he didn't cry.
He went through one of the most horrendous inhumane and injustice treatments in history just because of hes religion and he was only 15 years old at the time, and because of hes faith he survived, he helped others in need to have a future and he didn't feel hate, he didn't feel fear or vengeance, he learnt from the past to make a better future.

 

[Deleted member 126647]

I look up the name and get porn sites, Wulf.

 

[Kimbo]

err...scratch that..and ..look at this link instead. >.>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elie_Wiesel

 

[Xarwin]

This thread is really pointlessly stupid, and a lame discussion

Completely right.

Don't we have something better to do then talking about suicide?
This thread is useless and should be closed soon.

 

[Deleted member 126647]

I kill myself because I...want to see my sweet sweet blood pouring from my succulent veins....oh yes...lovely...I must kill myself right away. And people hate me too, so I hate them! They'll never see me again....sweet blood.

*goes to die*

 

[Kitabatake]

But you don't see Gazelles killing off themselves delibertly just because they slipped in the river and broke a horn or had one of their offspring taken.

That's perhaps because Gazelles, like most other living beings, fear pain and do all they can to avoid it.

And they cannot commit a painless suicide.

I agree that with you that I don't want anyone to commit suicide but I think no one should be forced to suffer against their own will.

suffering is part of life, but if someone knows that their situation is really fucked up and that the situation is not going to get better, they should have the right to end their suffering.

 

[Mecheon]

Suicide goes against every human instint. Therefore, it is not a good thing

It also stops that whole, you know, passing on your genes to a next generation which is the reason why most creatures tend to exist for?