Mounting

[AqoTrooper]

I tried to do this myself but I ended up being way off track... my question is, how can I make one unit mount another? For instance, lets say I want to make gnolls that ride lizards, how would I do that?

 

[fefeoxy]

apart from the fact that gnolls don't have a mounting animation, you could do either of the following:

use mount/dismount based spell (Archer and Hippogryph) to switch between 2 models; either mounted or dismounted.

set gnoll's collision to 0 and unselectable make him hover instead and put the lizard right below the gnoll, then write a trigger that moves the gnolls position to that of the lizard's. The problem with this is 1. you would be controlling the lizard, 2. the portrait would show the lizard not the gnoll =(

that's what I can think of for now. There might be a even better solution.

 

[Alvatar]

Using spell is wrong idea, you must make it trigger/jass based.

I already working on some mounting system but it stills buggy

 

[AqoTrooper]

set gnoll's collision to 0 and unselectable make him hover instead and put the lizard right below the gnoll, then write a trigger that moves the gnolls position to that of the lizard's. The problem with this is 1. you would be controlling the lizard, 2. the portrait would show the lizard not the gnoll =(

That's what I tried to do... well, execpt I set the Lizard's collision to 0 and make it unselectable (instead of the gnoll), which solves many problems.

My problem is with the 'trigger that moves the gnolls position to that of the lizard's'. I made one, but it's buggy and the gnoll can't attack because of it. And it also only works with one Gnoll/Lizard unit, while I can have many in the map.

 

[PurplePoot]

i would make one, but its far below my level, and im too lazy.

im kind of tied up with helping clannies learn JASS, making a map, debugging another map, and making a few systems.

 

[Alvatar]

You may turn collisions off, but there is problem mount will go through all obstacles - thats problem I already solving

 

[Dr Super Good]

LOL this is a funny topic. . .
Well actualy not its just funny that you dont know how to move a unit and still let it attack with triggers.

You must use SetUnitX() and SetUnitY() and it will move the unit and still attack.
Set a unit to a location or any functions like that will NOT work since it moves the unit and disruptss its order que (like pressing STOP all the time).

I do not recommed this idea if the map will use multiple units that will mount since for a unit to move smothly the minimum is 25 moves per sec and so will lag horiably with 30+ mounted units.

 

[PurplePoot]

I do not recommed this idea if the map will use multiple units that will mount since for a unit to move smothly the minimum is 25 moves per sec and so will lag horiably with 30+ mounted units.

yup, the best way to do that is just to make custom models. Even 25 moves per sec isnt all that smooth, anyways. This would be fine for an AOS, but not really and other kind of game.

 

[Alvatar]

Yes, and SetUnitX/Y is also faster than trigger, but there still problem with cfollisions

 

[PurplePoot]

with collisions? plz specify what you mean.

 

[AqoTrooper]

I'm not exactly a JASS expert, so it would be great if anyone could post more details on how am I supposed to use SetUnitX/Y...

 

[PurplePoot]

in GUI, it should look something like this

Custom Script - call SetUnitX( whichUnit, GetUnitX( whichOtherUnit ) )
Custom Script - call SetUnitY( whichUnit, GetUnitY( whichOtherUnit ) )

 

[Dracula]

I tried to do this myself but I ended up being way off track... my question is, how can I make one unit mount another? For instance, lets say I want to make gnolls that ride lizards, how would I do that?

there is a way...its not really nice, infact its petty funny, make the lizard that has a attachment on the chest with a gnoll as a model.

 

[Alvatar]

collision problem is when you teleport (SetUnitX/Y) rider on mount, then mount will be blocked by rider. If you turn collisions of rider off, nothing is solved, because rider is still obstacle for mount.
If you turn collisions of mount off it is working, but you can go trough units, buildings, gates, cliffs and any other obstacles - and that is that problem

 

[PurplePoot]

A) i did say to use a custom model

B) you can check if the terrain where the guys are it pathable.

 

[Alvatar]

A) It is wrong idea

B) It is better, but not such good idea. Even if you can check mount is inside obstacle, what you suppose to do?

 

[PurplePoot]

you stop him from going inside it in the first place. you also set the type on the guy on the mount ( or the mount ) to Walkable.

 

[Alvatar]

Interesting...is there some trigger/jass function to add/remove Walkable to unit?

 

[PurplePoot]

Do you mean Turn Unit Pathing On/Off :mrgreen:

 

[Alvatar]

huh? Where is Turn Unit Pathing On/Off? I know only Collision

 

[PurplePoot]

The Turn Pathing On/Of is the same thing as the collision

( srry im thinking JASS names )

 

[Alvatar]

If is that same thing, then it is useless, because turn collisions off make unit ignore obstacles but it is still treated as obstacle and that is my problem!!!

 

[PurplePoot]

then make one of the two units ( the mount ) a locust. it is not considered for pathing purposes

 

[Alvatar]

dont make me mad...

 

[PurplePoot]

? locusts I KNOW are not considered for pathing, otherwise dummies would interfere with Gameplay.

 

[Alvatar]

ofc, but I need mount to be controled and targeted and this is imposible for loctus. So, problem lasts...

 

[PurplePoot]

you control the rider, the mounts thru triggers

 

[raul]

why dont you make the rider a locust, so you can control the mount, so the rider can attack while the mount is moveing and all you have to add is an trigger that makes the rider attack an target if the mount is ordered to attack one

 

[PurplePoot]

Im sure youd rather see the rider's face

 

[Master-666]

Just change the mounts portrait model to its face.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Why has no one come up with the idea of making 2 units for the "gnoll" one has colision of normal amounts the other has vituly no colsion what so ever.
Also set the mounts colosion to minimal amounts so that they do not interfear with wach other pathing.

If im not mistaken all the function "Turn Unit Pathing On/Off" is that it means it ignores the pathing map thus can walk anywhere.

If you set the colision of a unit to 0 or something low in the object editor it will still check for pathability and will not ignore pathing map as well as it is vitualy ignored as an obstical.

 

[Alvatar]

Right....thanks for ideas and sugestions, but in case of preserving my psychycal health, I will no longer continue in this discusion until I find way to mount properly