Lizard Survival

[Kwah]

[RAINBOW]LIZARD SURVIVAL[/RAINBOW]​

This is the idea of the map for those who have not heard of it so far.

A group of heroes are fighting each other using a wide variety of knockback skills. This is not all. The heroes are dueling in the middle of a herd of stampeding lizards. There are rounds that are set at the start of the game (using a dialog). The goal of each round is to be the last man standing.

System:

The system involves using stats to determine knockback. There are three stats, Weight, Strength, and Awesomeness.

Weight - The heavier the unit the less distance he is knock backed. Also the slower he moves.

Strength - A stronger hero knocks back other hero's farther.

Awesomeness - Each time that a hero kills someone +1 to awesomeness. Each time a hero dies -1 to awesomeness. Base awesomeness = 100 (awsomeness does not do anything)

Stats and skills can be adjusted by buying them in between rounds.

Heroes:

Builder - This hero's main goal is to construct defenses out of barricades and other objects. Has average stats, life and MS.

Runner - The runner is an extra fast hero who is an expert at evading and avoiding combat. Low Stats, life and amazing MS.

Sniper - The real ranged hero of the game the Sniper is a expert with his long gun. Knocks back at long ranges. Average Stats. Average life. Average MS. Low knock back.

Tank - The tank has high strength and weight. Because of this he is powerful and slow.

Ninja - The ninja sneaks in and out of sight throwing shurikens and using num-chucks. Average stats. Increased base awsomeness. (lol)

The attached map is a very, very, basic version just to show you the idea.

This post is for now, looking for ideas, a plot line, and later testing and bugs.

Another Idea that I had was to prevent boredom to dead players. When a player dies he would be resurrected in the body of a special "attack lizard" to help kill the heroes.

Thanks for reading, hawk900

Updates will arrive over time.

Completion Chart:

Spells: 0%
Items: 0%
System: 10%
Ideas: 80%
Heroes: 95%
Lizards: 100%
Terrain: 50%
Overall: 10%

To-Do List:

• Make Spells
• Add Items
• Make minor changes to round system
• Add Player Death
• Balance
• Finish System
• Bugs. . .
• Add Ninja
• Fix shopping area

Will be adding more details soon.

Please Post suggestions.

Members:

terradont is now a project member.

Testers:

Hades1993
Soonftw

If you want to test or help, feel welcome to ask.

Credits:

redscores - Spell making help
terradont - general help
Super-Sheep - sheep running (lol)

 

[Maddawg101]

Not a bad idea in my opinion to make a fun warlock type game. Also props on adding awesomeness as a skill because what is a lizard arena but awesomeness in itself. I can't check out the map right now but I think I'll take a look later.
Good luck and have fun with it!

 

[Kwah]

Hmm, yes it was inspired by Warlocks.

Thanks for the interest.

 

[Orc]

Hey hawk900, your map concept looks good. I would play this when finished.

 

[Kwah]

Cool, thanks.

Personally I would be addicted to it. (In my un-biased opinion)

 

[terradont]

This map is really going to be great.

Keep up the good work, this may be a higly popular map, just make sure not to make it as bugged as Warlocks. Check all combinations of spells.

 

[JanSze]

y COULD get brilliant! And popular! Would be a lot of fun to play it with friends!

 

[Super-Sheep]

It would be better with sheep running. :[

 

[terradont]

That would require a custom model i'm afraid, at least if you want the sheep to be running.

I think that it is better with thunder lizards anyway.

 

[JanSze]

y and thunder lizards a a bit more dangerous than small sweet sheeps

 

[Kwah]

I have to agree with the thunder lizards.

I came up with the idea when one of my friends (PurplePoot) was playing an AOS map of some sort and one of the enemy heroes had stampede. He was playing "dodge the lizards" in effect.

Later I might make a "sheep running" version just for you Super-Sheep.

Thanks for the support and input.

Updates will be coming soon.

If you vote please say what you voted and why.

Please people. I need some one to test the round system with three players. Please so this with people that you trust.

It would be appreciated.

For example: Who voted "Please god close this thread now"?

 

[terradont]

Well, you've made a public poll, so just click one of the numbers in the poll to check who did it.

I can tell you anyway, i voted for "i would become addicted to it".

The one who voted "please god close this thread now" was UchihaSasuke.gr
Probably just some immature 12 year old DotA player that cannot accept anything else(or something like that) that made a bad joke.

Anyway, i just thought of garena, you could host it there, and i would gladly join.

 

[Kwah]

Umm, what do you mean?


I don't understand.

 

[terradont]

Garena is a tool that makes hosting and joining games in Wc3 amongst others much easier. You may host a game there without the special host req(with ports and stuff) that you need on bnet.

I am using garena, and it's a great tool. Go to this site and download the "English version Download" that is on top. You may also read more specifically there.

 

[Kwah]

Umm, I am rather busy now and would perfer it if you could just get some friends (or anyone really) and do it your self. . .

Please?

I give rep, and some credits perhaps?

 

[terradont]

I could do that, but i cannot do it right now, since i'm alone atm, and i don't know what my friends are doing, i can check if they are on msn though.

 

[Kwah]

Thanks.

Have given rep.

Back to the map:

Please People. Any suggestions, no matter how stupic they seem are welcome.

These suggestion could entail;
-Spells
-Items
-Game Play
-Models
-Story

Or any thing else that you could think of.

If you have a great idea for a model that is already made or even one that isn't it is likely that I can get it made through my modeller friends.

Thanks.

~800th post

 

[terradont]

I've gotten 2 testers, and both is someone of those i trust the most. But the version i've got still has the paladins in it, have you fixed that?

 

[Kwah]

Umm, no.

Why don't you open it in the world editor and delete them.

Also delete the additional actions from INIT(?) that add them to unit group heroes.

 

[terradont]

ok i'll do that

EDIT: I did that

I have also tested the map, and i have come to an conclusion. check PM for the report.

 

[Kwah]

Ok, people.

terradont is now an official Lizard Survival Project member.

Note: After project = 70% compelete I am going to go for hosted project status.

Ideas/Changes:

Add a ring of units around the start location to prevent lizards charging in.
Re-do Terrain so that it is more square.

Add a "Ninja" hero who would be adept at sneaking.

Progress Updated.

 

[terradont]

Just one thing about the unit ring. Make the units invisible like pathing blockers, and it will look the best( i do think you thougth of that, but just in case) also non-mappers will be amazed by how the lizards has a collides with the wall.

Good idea, this will reduce the irritation of the lizards running in the shopping area.

 

[Kwah]

Ya, I was thinking about making them an actaul wall model as well.

One queustion.

Who were the other testers?

Once 70% will try for hosted project and CG games support.

 

[terradont]

The other testers was my IRL friends, which does not map-make nor does they have a hive workshop account, but they are pro DotA-gamers and they are also playing alot of other maps as well. I will PM their bnet and garena names, because i do not want to give it away to the public because of spammers since it is not my accounts.

Anyway, they did a good job and is interested in continued testing of the map.

 

[Kwah]

Cool, I'll add them to the team.

 

[terradont]

Good idea, and even if they are just testers i will force them to create accounts on the hive.
Then you can also add them to the team by normal means.

(i have planned on teaching one of them and his big brother the basics of map-making and triggering, and then go to some more advanced, but the other one is mainly interested in playing maps)

 

[Super-Sheep]

y and thunder lizards a a bit more dangerous than small sweet sheeps

Meh.. You don't just know.

 

[Kwah]

No, really.

I will add in a -sheep version that can be chosen.

This will only come in later versions though.

 

[Dark Hunter1357]

I'm going to be amazed if you don't use jass for the knock back system. How do you plan to make it ?
I had an idea inspired by warlocks, but whit out using WEU i coulded make it... and i will never use weu >.<

 

[Super-Sheep]

Makeing a knockback isn't so hard what you may think. It's about moving the unit to some direction on every second.

 

[terradont]

Y the (hard) part is to make it MUI, and in GUI it also becomes a little laggier. I've actually created a MUI knockback system in GUI just before entering this project, and it's waiting for approval.

 

[Kwah]

Hmm, the knockback is not the hard part for me right now.

For that I can use Silvenon's System.

What I am working on right now is making a collision system. If anyone knows how I am just starting JASS and the like and would appreciate the input/help.

Also I may yet ask Bobo_The_Kodo to make the spells for the map as then it is likely that they will be much better than I could make.

 

[kewlthis]

Hmm, the knockback is not the hard part for me right now.

For that I can use Silvenon's System.

What I am working on right now is making a collision system. If anyone knows how I am just starting JASS and the like and would appreciate the input/help.

Also I may yet ask Bobo_The_Kodo to make the spells for the map as then it is likely that they will be much better than I could make.

I know sort of gui collision system, but it aint perfect, because you can select dummy units...its best to do it in jass indeed.

 

[Kwah]

Just a note:

Thanks to redscores for developing the basic skills Throw and Hit.

Ingame credits = true

 

[Kwah]

Just another note:

Project has been delayed a while as the person I am getting to do the spells (Bobo_The_Kodo) is in Texas at the moment.

So, it will be a while before I can get any more work done. Also in part because of the present Mini-Game Contest.

 

[Kwah]

Project still on delay. I have been working for the mini-game contest. Terra? How interested in this are you. . . cause I am thinking about handing it over to you, and just working a partial myself.

 

[terradont]

Well, i have some problems with my computers atm wich has set my main project back a month, so i need to work alot on that.

 

[Kwah]

Ok, if you find anyone interested in a map like this be sure to tell them of it, and the oppurtunities.

 

[JanSze]

I could maybe do some spells with GUI, but I have to tell you the truth: I never made one. But I really think I can learn it very fast

 

[Kwah]

Never made a what?

 

[JanSze]

a complicated spell^^

 

[Kwah]

Hmm, do you want the whole project?

 

[JanSze]

uff, no

 

[Kwah]

Sure?

;p

 

[JanSze]

hmm you could send me a version so I could check it But it would be too much work I think. But no, I'm NOT sure xD

 

[Kwah]

Can do. Give me one sec. . .

I think that this is it. I am not sure if it is the latest version. If someone does not want this project I think that it is D E A D.

 

[JanSze]

umph the project is in a realy early stage. I cant handle as many projects as I have atm. So: sry hawk, i wont take lizard survival. But thx for the offer, anyhow!

 

[Kwah]

I have an update!:

I've been learning JASS and have a good enough understanding to make the spells for this now.

Still, I'm looking for a partner to do the non-JASS simple stuff, such as spell ideas, items.

 

[JanSze]

hmm you know, you can always ask me for ideas I think I'm good at having good ideas

 

[Kwah]

Yes, you are.

But this is going to go slowly as well.