# I believe...

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Ash, Apr 15, 2009.

1. ### ArcticInferno

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Almost everyone did... I think. My first post came with a (if you are serious). I doubted it. But I still gave a serious arguement, so...

2. ### Captain Griffen

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They came for the Jews, and I did not speak out, because I was not a Jew.

Science never proved anything logically. Science never proves anything. It demonstrates, but cannot prove. Dismissing science does not mean you have to throw out logic.

Note I'm refering to deductive logic, but adopting inductive logic doesn't help you as, a) inductive logic has no real reason to work without using circular logic, and b) never proves anything, as the premises can all be true, the argument good, but the conclusion false.

3. ### ike_ike

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I'd like to point out I have a zip with *ROUNDED* teeth.

Hah!

4. ### Elenai

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My question would be...

Why lie about the world being flat? Why say it is round? Wouldn't one of the various thousands of reputable astrophysicists and other space related scientific minds speak out against such a fallacy if it were so truly named?

There are always rebels in the group.

5. ### Gilles

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So what should I do when someone tells me something? Is everything I learned in school a lie?

6. ### Elenai

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Basic math is wrong?

1+1=?

1+1=2 forever and always. One object, with another object of equal properties set along side such object in a grouping, is a group of two of thus said objects. It is not three, nor zero.

Basic maths retain their hold.

off topic note: gravity disproved?

7. ### PurplePoot

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How is it that electrons are able to pass from one area to another without passing through a boundary in between them that leaves no possible way through, if not by a form of what you term 'teleportation'?

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But still, now that apparently we can stop pretending now, this was fun.

It's a sad, sad world out there. Heck, one of the main points was a reference to Dr. Strangelove, as I said on page 2...

Yes, it's a simplication to the level of absurdity and gross inaccuracy in many cases. However, the point is that you should think critically.

It's fine to say you don't know and couldn't care less, but then don't go around telling other people about it and such. Just shut it and let the people who have looked into it talk about it.

A very large one (the moon), actually. That's what tides are. Ever heard of the term 'tidal forces'? They didn't just come up with that name by coincidence.

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I'm not convinced many people here understand what they don't understand about gravitation and otherwise (that is to say, recognize their ignorance).

8. ### Ash

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Gravity's different to gravitation. And as for maths... (wait for the edit)

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(I've had a run through this, I'm not 100% on it so it's subject to change)
I didn't say everything is a lie, and it's certainly jumping the gun a bit by saying that. What I did say is that everyone accepts things far too easily, instead of saying 'okay, that's right', you should say 'okay, why is that right'.

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Yap.

10. ### Elenai

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I was pointing out contradiction in the flat earth society FAQ.

1+1 still = 2.

11. ### Zelda.Alex

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Ash have you stopped the play or is it still going on?

12. ### Captain Griffen

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So you want a reputable astrophysicist to come out and say the world is flat?

And you want this in a world where anyone saying that is immediately disreputable, sacked, and never able to find employment again (and branded a nutter by the media, if they even report it)?

Can't you see that what you're waiting for is impossible?

You find that so hard to believe? Afterall, the North Koreans and the Americans both were the first to land on the moon.

13. ### Elenai

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Well, until it is done, the earth remain round.

14. ### Captain Griffen

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For all X, if X says the world is round, X is not respectable.

Therefore, there cannot exist a Y such that Y is respectable and Y says that the world is round.

15. ### Ash

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Yeah, ended it on the previous page.

Actually, take a look at my list of references

Everything I've said has been based on fact, opinion, other peoples discoveries, y'know.

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Epic troll Ash, too funny.

17. ### Steel_Stallion

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You people fail to see the point. It is not whether the information is right or wrong. But in our modern community, the world is round. In our schools, in our countries, among our people, it is accepted that the world is round.

You can go cry in the corner, searching for the ultimate truths of life, or you can blend into the inevitable submission of the shallow mind.

It is inevitable, stop fighting it.

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If the earth were flat and you could not reach the edge due to strong gravity, would this gravity not cause the edges of this flat world to curl inward?

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20. ### Anachron

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Ash this is nor funny or awesome, its just a piece of shit I don't care about. Oh well, and I've lost all my respect to you. Congratulation.