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Discussion in 'Site Discussion' started by Karawasa, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. Crayons

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    like I said. Making this site branch out will make it more popular and as popular as before, eventually leading to more trolling and drama.


    this site was awesome because it used to act as a modding site and a social network.

    you get to sit on your chair, drink your wine, and watch as both artistry (quality mods) and intellectual inability (drama) unfolds in your computo-box.

    now we're in a barren desert wherein we have neither.

    which means I prefer to have trolling and drama WHILST having modding and artistry.

    the two keeps each other in perfect balance and keeps Warcraft 3 modding and gaming in a perfect form of stasis.
     
  2. ~Void~

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    Not if a strong team of responsible, active, and professional staff is appointed. How unreasonable can that possibly be? 90% of the drama issues were either started by, circulated among or at least including crappy staff members.

    On a semi-related note, I'm all for zero tolerance permanently. You break a rule? You get an infraction. Three strikes in six months and you're out for good. That's the way it's done in my workplace, and hardly anyone stirs up trouble, and everyone gets along pretty well.

    Not too hard.
     
  3. Sephalo

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    Then let me come with an example of music. Think about it.
    What if we would have a 'zero tolerance' policy on musicians and their behaviour. I mean... Some musicians are total assholes, but their music is so good that people accept it. I mean... I'm totally against rude people and all, but if they're good then I prefer to just take it.
    Musicians 'breaking the rules' .. hmm.. Good artists usually are a bit different, and if we didn't allow anything to happen then think about musicians from the past... All great names like Jimi Hendrix have either a drugs reputation or a bad behaviour reputation.

    Ofc this is just an example. But I just try to illustrate that if we wouldn't tolerate anything from artists, we might kill art itself.
     
  4. Crayons

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    then that will be opposite of an active community that you want!
     
  5. Karawasa

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    Void brings up a good point. Zero tolerance should continue indefinitely. Well, it really should be low tolerance not zero tolerance. Just go look at Team Liquid. You won't find any immature bullshit over there.
     
  6. Crayons

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    comparisons won't work Karawasa.


    everybody else has tried.
     
  7. Karawasa

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    Are you telling me that the userbase here is just too dumb and immature to pull it off? Otherwise, I fail to see why it wouldn't work.
     
  8. Asomath

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    Perhaps the thought is not that the Hive is not capable of pulling it off, it just needs a more custom-tailored approach to getting there .

    ~Asomath
     
  9. Crayons

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    well yeah, they are dumb and immature


    but i'm saying that continuous comparing of the community to another won't work because most people don't care enough
     
  10. Ralle

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    I don't believe Warcraft will ever die, but it is certainly a niche now. I have been told many times that SC2 is a dead end because of sc2mapster and that modding it just isn't as good.
    I have been thinking about branching out to an actual game engine instead of just games, but which one? I would need to do a lot of researching on the topic. I have never used any game engines myself, so I would need to learn about all that stuff to properly support it. The reason why I bring up game engines is because that's basically what WC3 is. I am not sure though, modding WC3 is just very plug and play and with a game engine, you would have to download and install somebody's game and they would need to implement multiplayer etc...
    There really doesn't seem to be anything like it.

    EDIT: I just realized this was quite off topic, but I will leave it here.
     
  11. Kitabatake

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    Yes, warcraft 3 will be played ad infinitum but it would indeed be a refreshing change to cast away the limitations of it's engine and editor.
    It might be a good idea to take a look at the free Unity3d engine as it seems very versatile and popular these days, being used for both commercial games and hobby projects.
    The UDK engine would be a more powerful option, but it's learning curve and higher amount of work required for completing a project would probably not fit a casual spirited modding community that the Hive happens to be.
     
  12. ~Void~

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    I doubt Hive will ever die because of a site with "ster" in the name. Seriously, guys. We've got nothing to worry about.
     
  13. Karawasa

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    Please rename this thread "ignorance is bliss." THW will become obsolete and there is nothing that can be done about it.

    Stop dreaming about catching up with SC2Mapster. That isn't happening. Think I'm wrong? Try forming a coherent argument as to how you plan to do so. While you're at getting a rude awakening, stop dreaming about catching up with forums dedicated to game engines.