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How Angry Would You Be If Someone Took Resources From Your Map and Put It Into Theirs

How Angry Would You Be If Someone Took Resources From Your Map and Used It In Theirs?

  • Dont Care

    Votes: 24 21.8%
  • Don't Really Care As Long As They Credit Me

    Votes: 44 40.0%
  • Mildly Angry

    Votes: 8 7.3%
  • Very Angry

    Votes: 4 3.6%
  • RAAAAAGE MODE!

    Votes: 30 27.3%

  • Total voters
    110
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China is a large country and a lot of people don't have the English knowledge to reg a "mainstream modder site". The biggest Chinese WC3 modding site has houndred thousands of users, and is full of rips. The poor people will never know that their most praised "modders" actually don't know shit about modding.

The same applies to a Russian site I'm forbidden to name.
 
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I'd be happy, (why wasn't there any such box?)
Because then it shows that I've used good triggers and such and I've helped someone without having to bother with it.

IF he instead steals the map (which this thread wasn't about) then i'll go to flame mode.
 
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lol, well, i didnt mean by hijacking someone's map, but when someone deprotected yours, sucked out all the models and such, and put it into theirs.

edit: @nudl and i'm pretty sure there are no rules on the models and resources and such in your map at the hive. Vgstnaomi (misspelled) submitted a footman map with naked sorceresses in it and it got approved i think. there are also no rules against deprotecting, you just cant discuss it last time i checked.
 
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lol, well, i didnt mean by hijacking someone's map, but when someone deprotected yours, sucked out all the models and such, and put it into theirs.

edit: @nudl and i'm pretty sure there are no rules on the models and resources and such in your map at the hive. VGsatomi (fixed) submitted a footman map with naked sorceresses in it and it got approved i think. there are also no rules against deprotecting, you just cant discuss it last time i checked.

It only contained bunnygirl models, but no real juggs.
 
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I don't care as long they credit me. It's my fault if I released the map to public, so it's my responsibilty of the consequences.
To an extent. You knew full well the world you were releasing it into, but the negative actions being done are not your fault.



I really don't get it. If you make something and someone claims it to be their work, aren't you flattered? They took credit for it because it was awesome enough to claim credit for. You don't claim credit for crappy work unless it is yours, so the only reason someone would steal credit is because you made something totally awesome. How could this not be a compliment?
 
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china is a large country and a lot of people don't have the english knowledge to reg a "mainstream modder site". The biggest chinese wc3 modding site has houndred thousands of users, and is full of rips. The poor people will never know that their most praised "modders" actually don't know shit about modding.

The same applies to a russian site i'm forbidden to name.

xgm?
 
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well, if people do use stuff from other people's maps, there nothing the people can really do about it, since the rules state nothing about the actual content in the map aside from it having sexual materials, racism, being sucky and so on. unless someone decides to update.
but im just mostly curious about what people would say, thats all.

@hakeem: well, yah. but then people are like "awesome model you made" instead of praising the real person who made it.

@divineboss: actually it did. i opened it up and it was in there >.> (i was checking out some triggers)
 
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Depends if the map was open-source, if the resources were exclusive, and if they gave credit.

If the map was open-source, you already gave permission to use anything in the map IMO, so it's not an issue.

If the map was not open-source, and the resources were exclusive for the map, and not given out publicly, you're stealing resources, but if you give fair credit to the author, I'd say that almost outweighs the stealing. If you do not give credits however, you're stealing and acting like a douche, and in addition, maps with "credits to X/Y/Z" look more professional.

Edit: All in my opinion.
 
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@hakeem: well, yah. but then people are like "awesome model you made" instead of praising the real person who made it.
They are praising the model and the skill that made it. The praise is unknowingly directed at you. I think it would be totally awesome to come into the situation at that point and tell them that I am the real author. xD
 
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Depends if the map was open-source, if the resources were exclusive, and if they gave credit.

If the map was open-source, you already gave permission to use anything in the map IMO, so it's not an issue.
A bad rationalization. No, you really did not give them any permission.

You gave them permission to use it as a learning resource.

Besides, it's no harder to steal art from a protected map.
 
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True that, but protecting a map isn't that hard, and if your material is *that* exclusive, you should at least do that, no?
 
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actually, there are ways to make your map un-deprotectable to the common deprotector, i think archangel_tidusx achieved this, well atleast he was saying that it couldnt be deprotected.

and there are ways to make a map open source, but make all the imported stuff not be there, i personally know how to do this, but deprotectors can usually fix this barrier so the files all appear.
 
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When you release anything to the public, not just a meager Warcraft III map, you give them the ability to use it. When everyone has the ability to do something, it will be done. This is how I treat things that I release. If I don't want to give you permission, the only way to accomplish this is not release it.


I have to wonder, for what reason would you not want someone to use something you made?
 
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To be honest, I ripped resources from a map once(custom icons), And a gargoyle with demonhunter animations.

They're pretty useful, But I doubt this site would allow someone to upload a model that just had its animations switched out.

If someone took the shitty pikemen models I made decades ago, I doubt I would kill myself.
 
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True that, but protecting a map isn't that hard, and if your material is *that* exclusive, you should at least do that, no?
I agree, but person X should not be punished because person Y is an ass.

actually, there are ways to make your map un-deprotectable to the common deprotector, i think archangel_tidusx achieved this, well atleast he was saying that it couldnt be deprotected.
If it can be played, it can be deprotected.

and there are ways to make a map open source, but make all the imported stuff not be there, i personally know how to do this, but deprotectors can usually fix this barrier so the files all appear.
Even without a deprotector that doesn't defend particularly well (as in, anyone with half a clue what they are doing can break that in a second or two).

When you release anything to the public, not just a meager Warcraft III map, you give them the ability to use it. When everyone has the ability to do something, it will be done. This is how I treat things that I release. If I don't want to give you permission, the only way to accomplish this is not release it.

I have to wonder, for what reason would you not want someone to use something you made?
If a company releases a product, does that give others the right to steal from it?
 
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If I uploaded it to the hive or similar then idc.
If they deprotected my map and stole resources or triggers I didn't want taken, then fairly pissed.
If they then turn out to be 15-year old raging noobs that steal all their resources and are working on making another fucking crappy naruto map, then I'd shoot them in the face.
 
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When you release anything to the public, not just a meager Warcraft III map, you give them the ability to use it. When everyone has the ability to do something, it will be done. This is how I treat things that I release. If I don't want to give you permission, the only way to accomplish this is not release it.


I have to wonder, for what reason would you not want someone to use something you made?
Pride.
It might be a good thing, and it might be a bad thing.
But I have a lot of it, and when I put it into something of my creation, and I ask people to give credit when they use it, and they don't, I get pissed.
 

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First, of course, my map's have to be protected. Every good, people downloading, comments, and them, from the shadows, an map stealer deprotects my map and steals my exclusive resources! RAAAAAGE MODE!

Truly, map (and resource) stealers only deserve to stay banned until the end of their lives.
 
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