Hero Contest #4 [Animalistic Nature] ~ The Poll

[Peukka]

huh

how the hell i know what heros those are?

 

[Bannar]

Go to the first page, on host's post and scroll down a bit. There you will find multiple entries, check them all and choose the best one. Have fun.

 

[Adiktuz]

Poll is 30%, judging is 70%

Also, yeah this wasn't a spell contest which is why coding is only a part of the criteria... and also why the aesthetics and the others are for the overall appearance of the hero (model, icons, tooltips etc)...

For me, I was willing to give 10/10 to those who used OE only, if the quality is good... And if I see effort put into making sure that the OE entries are fine... Due to this, mistakes on the OE is also on the same point reduction as those who has leaks on their code... and lack of effort on fixing basic OE data made me wanna hit Shift-Del on the maps...

Why?

Well, it was much easier to edit the OE data than coding a lot for each spell, so at least put effort in making the OE data as good as possible especially tooltips...

Also, OE data is reflected in the aesthetics part too as icons/tooltips are set on the OE... so lack of effort in good OE editing results to a low Aesthetics value too...

Poor coding also sometimes reflects on the aesthetic value of the spells which in turn reduces the overall impact of the hero...

Let's face it, in an overall hero concept, spells still play a lot of role... Just take a look when we compare the melee heroes, what we normally compare is the effectiveness of their abilities in different situations (like how well they go with each race, or when fighting
1-on-1 etc)...

 

[Bannar]

I totaly agree with you @Adiktuz, and thats great that w have judge like you.
Personaly I've never told here that it's all about coding, what most ppl blame me for, but to be honest the factors which create a hero are:

- attribute
- spells
And thats all if we are talking about mechanics, because the last factor is the 'fit into race' theme.

The spells represents hero itself, his status, his role and.. his gameplay.
If you put all the spells from MK into PAL you would probably notice no diffrence, pal would be just normal mk with less hp but more mana (and it's true, the more mana str hero has, theb more imba he becomes ^^). So this is the spells what counts the most (I don't tell coding), and that what contestant should take care of at first.

 

[InfinateAnswers]

I agree but your missing something, its not just that, yes you need spells but its the mechanics of the hero. Look at paladin for example his role for the human race, tanky healer support. His name is Paladin, when you hear paladin thats what you think of. Mountain Kings mechanics are damage hero killer and tank, what else would you expect from a "Mountain king" its not just the spells itself, its the overal mechanics of the hero, what does this hero have to contribute to the race chosen, or to the game itself. Is it just another mountain king? or is it a whole new idea that gives whoever owns this hero an advantage over who doesnt have a way to counter it.

 

[Bannar]

Read what've said more carefully. Attributes + spells create mechanics of the hero - nothing else. Icons/models/names factors which create a hero, not his gameplay.

 

[InfinateAnswers]

Was replying to adikutz =P

I had written that when he posted, but forgot to hit "post" and i passed out

 

[Bannar]

Thats happen to me ofen too and I get punished a lot for that.
Sorry that this time it heppened to you :S
DD

 

[InfinateAnswers]

Lay down on something soft for 5 minutes, u wake up 5 hours later lol

 

[CeDiL]

Standart spells would make a hero boring, they should be avoided, why don't we start putting standart models in modeling contests?

I think even a shockwave should get coded since this could allow us to make adjustments without being limited to standart fields.

 

[InfinateAnswers]

yeah like whoever impacts the shockwave gets knocked back a little =P Whenever i make a seemingly standard spell i try to give it a triggered portion.

 

[Pharaoh_]

Coded spells are indeed attractive, but some people obviously can't trigger them. Of course this is a factor that lowers the level of the contest, but I prefer creativity than the ability of coding.

 

[InfinateAnswers]

But coding amplifies the possibilities, allowing more creative ideas. You are so limited with OE spells

 

[Pharaoh_]

True that, but public is attracted to eye candy (that's why it's called like this) than the coding. Most likely, voters of a contest have almost nothing to do with its object. They won't care for a structured code and how well it is built, they will care for the visuals.

 

[CeDiL]

True that, but public is attracted to eye candy (that's why it's called like this) than the coding. Most likely, voters of a contest have almost nothing to do with its object. They won't care for a structured code and how well it is built, they will care for the visuals.

eye candy is one of the factors the makes the spell, it's really important, i would even give it 50% of the spell's success rate, but you also need a good concept, idea and leak/lagless interpretation("care for the code and how well it is build").

 

[InfinateAnswers]

Yeah some people dont even look at the hero, they look at the preview and if they dont like the layout they wont even care about the hero =P

 

[Adiktuz]

Well, a fitting name/icon/model is a part of the Aesthetics which on this case is also a part of the criteria... haha...




1 more week before the poll closes, good luck guys... ^_^

 

[InfinateAnswers]

Well it looks like it'll come down to me spinnaker and blood raven... Good luck to you both

 

[Bugz]

And orc

 

[InfinateAnswers]

i was counting the top 3 lol

 

[Bugz]

70 % of the winner shall be determined by the contest's appointed judge(s).


Since you are so close to each others, it doesnt matter

 

[Bannar]

Vote 30% only, so if difference between given participants is small the adventage/disadventage you can get by poll is even less.
Judges judge the world here =)

Espacialy Maggy :SSSSS I bet his comments will make me laught enought to lose my breath.

EDIT: BUGZ YOU READ IN MY MIND. NOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Bugz]

Vote 30% only, so if difference between given participants is small the adventage/disadventage you can get by poll is even less.
Judges judge the world here =)

Espacialy Maggy :SSSSS I bet his comments will make me laught enought to lose my breath.

EDIT: BUGZ YOU READ IN MY MIND. NOOOOOOOOOOO

You are way 2 slow.. Now rep me for being super fast

 

[CeDiL]

You are way 2 slow.. Now rep me for being super fast

You are not allowed to ask for rep, read rules.

 

[Bugz]

You are not allowed to ask for rep, read rules.

Sarcasm...

 

[InfinateAnswers]

30% based off our scores (10+) is 3 points into the final score, 3 points can make or break you =) thats why i didnt count orc he only has 8 =(

 

[Bugz]

30% based off our scores (10+) is 3 points into the final score, 3 points can make or break you =) thats why i didnt count orc he only has 8 =(

Hehe, he got 9.

Top four scores:

12.
11.
10.
.9

 

[InfinateAnswers]

No bugz he has 8, he voted for himself so that vote doesnt count, remember?

 

[Bugz]

No bugz he has 8, he voted for himself so that vote doesnt count, remember?

Oh yeh, but that one point will not matters, since the judges decide the most

 

[InfinateAnswers]

well considering how low the final score will be, that point will make a difference.

 

[Bugz]

well considering how low the final score will be, that point will make a difference.

That might be correct..

 

[InfinateAnswers]

the maximum points from the judging one could get is 31.5 since its only 70% of the final score. And since theres so many people, that a very close range will be hit with all contestants, so in this contest, with the low values of all the preferences, the public pole can change the outcome of the contest.

 

[Bugz]

the maximum points from the judging one could get is 31.5 since its only 70% of the final score. And since theres so many people, that a very close range will be hit with all contestants, so in this contest, with the low values of all the preferences, the public pole can change the outcome of the contest.

Shit we made some low quality -.- ( me being the worse )

 

[InfinateAnswers]

Normally what i see in contests is 2 sections of people, good and bad. But in this contest theres a full spectrum which will make the 3rd and 4th position very close to each other. When normally its like 3rd place is like 90 points and fourth is like 30 lol.

 

[Adiktuz]

I wonder how the 30% is calculated from the voting... I don't think getting 30% of the actual votes is good since it doesn't have a maximum, while the judges judging is only up to 45 points... I think its based on percentage of your votes from the total...

like: 100*[.7*(Judges score/45) + .3(Your votes/Total votes)]

it seems more fair that way...

because if you do it like what you currently want, it won't really be 30%

example:

You got 45 from the judge and then got 100 votes

.7*45 + 100*.3 = 31.5 + 30 = 61.5

and 30 is almost 50% of your total score...

 

[Magtheridon96]

I'm going to finish tonight
I'm not at all happy with the coding though >.<
OMG Leaks
OMG Useless Indexing
OMG Non-Dynamic Indexing
OMG Repeating Functions
OMG OMG OMG

 

[Bannar]

Omg, I'm so bad? ;/ I know that one of my trigger leaks hope you comment all mistakes I've done. Althoug I've lost map 2 days before dealine thats why my entry was so late ^^ (~23:00), creating everything from begining = no time to fix every issue/bug again.

 

[Orcnet]

OMG INFINITY!

 

[InfinateAnswers]

I only had 1 leak, and i cant wait to read the comments because i know ill have an argument with someone about them >.>

 

[UnHolyDarKness]

wolf

that spinnaker wolf wow i liked it most.. pretty great abilities and a great thing to have a wolf as a killing machine .. with the effects on him
awesome 5/5
the others are good too

 

[Bannar]

@anton thabain Appreciated.

 

[Pharaoh_]

I'm happy that everyone got 1 vote at least.

 

[InfinateAnswers]

bugz got 3, hes going to win for sure! 13th place for bugz!!

 

[Bugz]

bugz got 3, hes going to win for sure! 13th place for bugz!!

I am still wondering if i can get - points by the judge..

 

[Blood Raven]

why everyone dislikes Bugz's entry? it's nice! i'm gonna vote for him
it have nice descrition, nice model, fites the theme very well!
this cannot be, a nice entry to have only 3 votes!

 

[UnHolyDarKness]

why everyone dislikes Bugz's entry? it's nice! i'm gonna vote for him
it have nice descrition, nice model, fites the theme very well!
this cannot be, a nice entry to have only 3 votes!

we dislike nobody's work we just vote for the best from our own perspective
they all did a good job and a great work
but the idea is that the best one wins
so we vote for the one we think he's the best.. but we dont dislike anybody i repeat they all did a great job

 

[Bugz]

Lol that's the best troll i ever seen.

 

[Bannar]

Lol that's the best troll i ever seen.

Who? ^^
Bugz need a vote? I keep mine unrill last moment

 

[Jazztastic]

I'm going to finish tonight
I'm not at all happy with the coding though >.<
OMG Leaks
OMG Useless Indexing
OMG Non-Dynamic Indexing
OMG Repeating Functions
OMG OMG OMG

Ummm, if you're talking about mine, you mean "OMG Fabulous", or "OMG It's almost art".

 

[Bugz]

Who? ^^
Bugz need a vote? I keep mine unrill last moment

Never imagined i got a vote