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Discussion in 'Submissions Archive' started by Freyleyes, Feb 21, 2010.

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  1. Element of Water

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    Do you even know vJass/Zinc? If not, you probably don't stand a chance - I'm planning some spells that would be near-impossible to make in GUI or even vanilla Jass.
     
  2. Aspard

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    ][_,([])][_,ed. It's a joke, right? :D About not even leaving a chance?
     
  3. xD.Schurke

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    i think Zinc is not allowed
     
  4. Element of Water

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    Err, no.

    I don't see that anywhere in the rules, and why shouldn't it be allowed? It works with normal JassHelper.

    And if it's an issue with the judging (judges don't know Zinc), you can always force a vJass syntax error to get the code to come up in vJass.
     
  5. Aspard

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    Uhm, well... Then, explain please, why do you think, that your using of technology not everyone possesses will lead to your beating them? I don't see any judjing criteria stating that super-duper Jass spells will get more points for coding than good GUI spells.

    And if you think that you'll beat shit of us by providing cool spells - then it's just a vainglory. Nobody knows, whos idea will be coolest.

    Jass has only a small plus in a coding part, but it doesn't influence in any way on four other parts of judjing criteria, dude. We have a proverb in our country: "Vainglory punishes itself" :)

    And I'm not sure, but probably this site rule forbids using Zinc?

     
  6. Eccho

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    Zinc is as much supported as cJass is... In other words, not supported afaIk.
     
  7. Element of Water

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    Seriously, other people will too. I highly doubt a GUI user will win the contest.
    http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/site-discussion-97/zinc-resources-acceptable-146328/

    It's not against the site rules :p
     
  8. Pharaoh_

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    If the judges can't test the Zinc lagnauge, it's not Element of Water's problem actually. As far as this language performs well and does the job, it should be acceptable.
     
  9. xD.Schurke

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    it's not about the judging, I know Zinc and it's features etc. but Zinc is just not stated in the rules:

     
  10. Pharaoh_

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    That's a copy paste from the previous contest; Zinc was not really known back then.
     
  11. xD.Schurke

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    there specially for you c&p spell rules:
     
  12. Tleno

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    I knew earlier or later there will be a contest like this... since my last try to join a contest was a major fiasko, I thing I'll pass this time... altough theme is really simple and fun...
     
  13. Duruka

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    I don't know Jass, but I'm not here to win. Just for fun and practice.
     
  14. Element of Water

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    The rules still need to be updated, obviously, because Zinc resources most definitely are allowed, if you'd read my link a few posts ago.

    Fine by me.
     
  15. xD.Schurke

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    EoF... this thread does not state that Zinc is allowed if you can read, Poot just said that there is no reason to disallow it. But the spellsection rules still do't mention Zinc so it's not accepted as a script format (officialy)
     
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    Jass and vJass is indeed more powerful, but I can assure you that GUI users can create awesome spells. Even if you have all the power in the world, but no use for it, its still useless. So yea, without an good idea, your spell will still suck even if it's vJass.

    I am sorry, but what is Zinc

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    I see no problem with this so called Zinc. But we should ask the judges and PY as well.
     
  17. Pyritie

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    Why do people keep writing my name in all caps? >__>
     
  18. krisserz

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    py, you didn`t answer ;p
     
  19. Element of Water

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    I think that's a pretty unquestionable YES.

    PS: You have to remember that this was when Poot was "Site Director" or whatever, so if he said they're acceptable, they're acceptable...
     
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    I dont like to be a party pooper here, but none of you have even tried to challange most of the points i brought up. How about you give me some good answers and try to convince me? Let me reiterate my points for you:

    • Reimplementing large systems is tiresome and entirely unnecessary. I hope i dont have to explain why.
    • Minimum complexity of code should be a goal for most people. That doesnt mean you should sacrifice originality and gameplay for simplicity. The hundredth Fireball spell is neither original nor appealing.
    • Previous contests are irrelevant, since the changes i propose (now that the judging criteria have already changed) dont radically change the contest.
     
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