Founders of the North 1.15

[Desktop_General]

Suggestion

I've hosted many games now. Please fix the victory conditions. I've never seen the game declare victory, even after all other players have been defeated or left the game. If somone leaves, they should be defeated, and if all players have been defeated, the game should end. I recommend allied victory be allowed, because a lot of players like to ally (I'm not saying that for my benefit. I prefer to be on my own).

A lot of people get really mad when you attack them. This is a war game, and, although it says something about playing how you want, it also states quite clearly that you have to defeat all the other players to win. I've given advanced warnings (before the game starts and at the beginning of the game), been helpful giving tips on how to play, and sometimes I don't even attack them for 1.5 hours. However, they get mad anyway. They get mad because they aren't trying to win, they're just exploring the game and having fun doing what they want (which is a good thing), and they don't want to be attacked.

Therefore, I recommend something that someone else suggested, but with some small differences. I recommend you add some way to defeat other players without destroying them (to fulfill victory conditions). I've seen that done before, where you conquer a specific building or kill their hero, and they have to join you. You could also make it so people could surrender to someone if they don't want to fight them (to reduce the damage to their forces and property). Conquered players shouldn't be declared winners if their conqueror wins, but maybe you could allow them to be liberated by their allies. There should also be a benefit to the conquering player (like additional income from taxes). I bet that would add some really cool elements to the game (for example, if you conquered someone, you'd probably want to protect them, and it would feel like you were a ruler defending your people).

The main reason to do something like this is because it would cater to those people who don't want to fight. It would also give new players a better chance to experience the map and gain the skills necessary to become a full competitor (if that's what they want). That would help the map become more popular because it would be less discouraging to new players.

Please don't make it like Fantasy Life, where people play until they get bored. I have always felt like that was a very bad design flaw. You want people to have fun from beginning to end, and you want them to come back for more. You should never want them to get bored or tired of playing.

 

[Davesanz]

Very good map.

 

[88WaRCraFT3]

Can you say me, why i can't load the game when i save it. This is what happen: I played the FotN with my friend, but he needed to go somewhere, and we saved the game, after it, when he comed back, i cannot load the map, we tried again to see is it bug or what, but this map cannot be loaded in Multiplayer ://

 

[Luffy_299]

Thats not something new, all maps, not only fotn, cant be loaded on me on multiplayer.

 

[88WaRCraFT3]

not true, i played Ultimate Angel Arena... and saved it, and loaded it worked, same for DotA,Forest Trolls,Even for my custom maps!!! etc....

 

[Desktop_General]

I think the players have to be in the same slots they were in when you saved the game. So if you were red and your friend was blue, you'd have to be red and he'd have to be blue to load the game. I think.

 

[Hero_Lief]

If a map stores any temp data, then it probably won't be resumable. Happens with a lot of maps.

 

[Sifonseal]

@88WarCRaFT3
I’ve loaded a Founders game several times before.
Host should save it while all players are there (Note it won’t start if even one of the players that was there when the save was made is not there now)
You have to make sure though that both the saves are exactly the same, this is probably the issue, best bet is to send them a copy of the hosts save
With this, if all the players are present and everyone is in the right place, it should load without an issue.

Also I found some time the other day and managed to get some work done on Founders, the next few weeks ill actually be rather busy, but after that will be as free as a bird… figuratively… so I can get back to some serious founding.
With the time found the other day I managed to actually take guilds from an idea to a working system ^^
Now I’ve got a system working that will let you found your own guilds of various types, bandit guilds, mercenary guilds, etc, you can join the guilds of others to seize control or build a greater guild together, and you can fund guilds or use the money from your guild to fund your nation.
Guilds provide income based on your control over the guild and the demand for the guilds services, which is primarily decided by how useful your guild is in the situation of your current game.
Guilds also start to generate walking Guild Representatives when they grow more and more so that non guild members can pay for the services of the guild.
You will are also able to hire guild reps yourself to position them where they can sell their goods and services to more individuals of the north to further increase the guilds profit.
Guilds make money based on how useful they are to the players and the situation of the north. (This is also a new concept that’s under work, it will show changes in the towns and NPC factions actions based on player decisions and the state of the north. E.g. town now have an awareness of how safe it is around them, later additions will show how this contributed to the creation of the FOTN world)
Different guilds can be used for different purposes; both the bandit guild and the mercenary guild can be used to destroy your enemies and your allies without ever declaring war! The age of sabotage, espionage and cutthroat backstabbing will be here soon!
Guilds will not always make you money; if someone is harassing your guild reps they might even cause you to have a negative income.

Amazingly enough the base for all of this is done, and that’s the hard part; creating this “Guild” concept. Now all that’s left is the pretty little bits, like adding services for the guilds, i.e. systems for requesting assassinations, for arranging mercenary attacks, simply recruiting mercenaries into your army and much more!

Ill probably release a new version sometime soon with just two types of guilds as well as some other new things (A lot actually)

Just figured I’d let people know I’m still around ^^

 

[Bokalaka4a]

Great Map !

 

[Sifonseal]

Version 1.16

Alright, 1.16 is finally out, just waiting on Domasi to update it here ^^

Changelog as follows:

Change log:
Version 1.16
- Population cost of Villager, Worker, Engineer, and Pack Horse reduced to 0
- Fixed several minor issues (E.g. problems caused by night shift for calamity videos)
- Blacksmith can now produce Trade Good: General Arms with the use of iron
- Fixed issues with bandit players not respawning when they should
- Balanced bandit unit sight ranges
- Built the base of village/town NPC factions
- Village/Town NPC factions now build defenses when they can afford to
- Village/Town NPC factions now consider their safety and react to their surroundings
- Fixed leaks found in some farming systems
- Equipment item sets introduced:
When you have all the items of a set they will combine into a set item in your inventory providing you with extra invent slots!!
(E.g. Iron Set which consists of Adventures Armor, Iron Gauntlets, Iron Boots will combine into one item “Item Set: Iron Armor” with the effect of all the combined items and will have a “Socket slot”)
- Created 4 Item sets in this version (More to come shortly)
- Socket Slots have been added to some items, these “Socketed” items can be combined with gems obtained through the Founder mining system which is soon to be completed, for now they won’t serve much purpose.
- Placed male companions in preparation for Female Founder options
- Leonardo the Think now sells plans for “Leo’s Workshop”
- Alchemist Guild can finally make Gunpowder
- Gunpowder is finally introduced:
Gunpowder can be used with Leo’s Workshop to produce rifles and in turn train Riflemen and other gunpowder units; it can also be used to build Cannon Towers a new elite tower that has various forms of design each with its own advantages and disadvantages.
- With Leo’s Workshop you will be able to modify all your towers to suit different rolls all over your empire.
- NPC info added to all wandering NPCs
- Hunting and Fishing have been balanced for a more interesting early game. Both hunting equipment and fishing equipment will yield twice as much when used by a Founder.
- Addition of new Awakening bosses:
Heroic Hawk Spirit Farsai: A legend of the north skies and the deity of storms!


1.17 will be out within two or three weeks, right now I’m rather busy, but you can be sure that it will have some really awesome stuff ^^

 

[Hero_Lief]

FFFFFFFF

Now I have to remember my forum pass. Lol.

 

[Blazer_Knight]

Excuse me while I yell " Finally !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " and test it

 

[Desktop_General]

Sifonseal, you could post 1.16 to the pastebin

Hi Sifonseal. I just tried it out, and you could post your new map to the pastebin on The Hive Workshop. It creates a page where people can download the file. Then you click on the pastebin you created and copy the url and you could link to it from a post on your website and/or a post to this thread. Looks like you can have it up for over a month from the last time someone viewed it.

 

[Desktop_General]

Sifonseal posted 1.16 to the pastebin

Sifonseal/ShadeGabriel posted 1.16 to the pastebin for now:

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=kw188r

Thank you Sifonseal!

 

[keaponlaffin]

Guild reps spam immensely. Only way to get rid of them is through calamity mass genocide.

 

[RadiaNSh0t]

i think i saw 1.19 being hosted... is there something wrong?

ps: 1.16 bugs, i found a couple: Wife Skill: Affection: the 1 that gives 2 - 5x int (somewhere...) to a unit, if u stop it moment it casts, the spell still happens (no mana cost, no cooldown), and the effect happens (trigger spells like dat de mostly). So give it a channeling or something instead. The same goes for converse, was able to converse a single villager like 300 times in 3 min... and get lots of junk from him too, which becomes $$$.

The vampire... i think its too strong, the feeding vampire (air unit, gargoyle) just kept multiplying early game (10 - 20 min), with no way to stop it, so i wondering if u could put a timer be4 allowing the calamities to happen, or everyone will be wiped out, totally.

BTW: can u find a way to decrease loading / downloading time? People say its snail like, but its still a fun game, complete it soon!!!

 

[Luffy_299]

No, youre just blind, Domasi doesnt seem to be online ever and Sifonseal uploaded the version by himself.Search for 1.19.

 

[GreedyGoblin99]

latest FoTN... 1.20

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/maps-564/founders-north-1-20-a-184407/

 

[Tleno]

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http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...20-a-184407/?prev=search=founders&d=list&r=20
^^^^^^

Here. The newest version is that one, it was uploaded separately because one of creators was innactive and another couldn't upload map without him.

Someone should really delete or close this one...

 

[-Kobas-]

Closed!

Please if you ever come back send map moderators VM/PM and we will change map status to Approved!
Have a nice day!

 

[GamerGirl19]

Can anyone tell me how to answer the quizzes? Im bamboozled, thanks