Defenders of the Light (Act II released)

[Championfighter25]

Yeah, the intro is too tedious and you could cut down on the pain by leaving your design philosophy rants out of it.

If you don't like it, then skip it.
Judging by your tone you would have figured out everything without it, so you just wasted your time for nothing.
Don't complain about something you didn't need to put yourself through.
He gave more than enough hints to skip it, if you wished to do so.

 

[hobby villain]

If you don't like it, then skip it.
Judging by your tone you would have figured out everything without it, so you just wasted your time for nothing.
Don't complain about something you didn't need to put yourself through.
He gave more than enough hints to skip it, if you wished to do so.

He gave me hints that I could skip it, yes. And what's it worth that in hindsight I noticed it didn't tell me anything worthwhile? It needs to say something like "if you're remotely familiar with RPG's, just skip this".

If I skipped it and it turned out it actually had useful information and I'd be here complaining that I don't understand some mechanic on the map I bet you'd be RTFM-bashing me instead.

 

[deepstrasz]

Spoiler: Review

Spoiler: beginning scene

1. -you can quickly take the potion of lesser healing after placing it on the circle
2. -nice touch with the dummy items as being actually references to HiveWorkshop mappers

Spoiler: home

1. -from what I understand Hao Hao is a product name for noodles?
2. -the CTRL+1 (control group) is lost after the first quest; you could have just disabled the spells and enabled them afterwards instead of replacing the hero with another unit copy. I don't remember him being without the hammer so I don't really see why even have the need for another unit. The damage is useless anyway because you don't need it for the first quest.
   
3. -Adias' spells are pretty regular. Storm Bolt has its icon edited for some reason even though the spell is the same except for mana cost. You could at least edit them with triggers to make things more interesting and not repetitive. I mean Storm Bolt and Healing Wave are a big part of the Rexxar campaign. Or you could import custom made ones: Spells | HIVE
4. -Buri is basically the Blood Mage... also, hasn't he got an ultimate? Why need to use two spells for mana transfer when you could use siphon mana for that too? Not quite suitable for a paladin, these spells are. For one following the Light that is. Also, Flame Strike's icon, changed but not the spell too.
   
5. -completed quest: Dave Munshi? But I haven't even started it. I just met the dude.
6. -why is Tommy calling Adias pop? That means father
7. -permanent immolation kills things even Paul

Spoiler: little village

1. -centaurs in Lordaeron/Azeroth?
2. -now I realized that Buri only has 3 levels for spells while Adias 8 and 3 for the ultimate. Buri is supposed to be played with for a while then.
3. -I think Vicar did not have a yellow ! over his head before meeting the footman.
4. -maybe you should mention as a game text what the reward is from quest characters? I think Vicar gave gold but I didn't see any indication other than the value up top.
5. -NPCs could have the ? over their heads after the requirement is done and the protagonist needs to return to them.
6. -only Adias can give the vial. That's a bit annoying.
7. -still have to find the chicken. I assume it's in the south level; oh, it's the one from Dave but I thought it was roasted or something; it's like they're eating it raw; same, only Adias can give the chicken even if the trigger asks when the item is on another hero
   
8. -I refuse to kill the dogs! What the hell man!? What kind of stupid quest is this, out of the blue with no proper reason? If you hate them, it's your problem, not the player's; at least make them rabid (attacking enemy units) that you have to kill because they are a danger to the village

Spoiler: dark wood

1. -after the scene with Akiba and the lost city, Buri was instantly moved to the start of the level
2. -the statue protection doesn't work all the time; the zombies might come near the generator and stay a while fighting then return to the place they came from; yeah, the statue is pretty useless, it even changed facing after game load to 300 something degrees.
   
3. -Buri is quite annoying for a melee hero with such low hit points, especially with Death Coils everywhere
4. -Lightning Storm=Starfall; a large area (description) makes you believe you select where to cast not that it's around the hero
5. -the necromancer complete? I don't remember having that quest from anyone
6. -the orb of corruption does not lower armour if carried by Darak
7. -so, you're a StarCraft (II) fan? Two Easter eggs in the same map
8. -well the problem with the circles is that they are waygates; you should have made them like in the dungeon because in dark wood you just have to click somewhere on the map and the hero knows through which circle to go to get to Assan
9. -survive for... but you don't get full hp... actually, it doesn't quite matter with so many zerg
   
10. -hurt undead by normal means? Or the undead used magic to injure Assan?
11. -the chain lightning item's icon=the chain lightning spell's
12. -I've used a Kochuba (?) herb before meeting the Shaman. I hope there are enough for the quest
13. -shouldn't your heroes be restored after each battle in the arena vs the ghost warriors? (also, you could make them transparent with change unit's vertex colouring trigger); it's not like that makes you play with each separately while the others regenerate because those out of the area are paused
    
14. -Anub'arak should cast Locust Swarm earlier not when nearing death
15. -problem is Thrall is really weak (doesn't summon wolves); I think you should make the heroes stronger; Uther is the best of the first three only because of the 45s Divine Shield
16. -so, it's the same heroes each time depending on your heroes? Oh... you have to play with the same hero in a row but it's a pain to wait for regeneration each time.... plus, I don't remember having been told about this; or not? It's just random? I'm confused...
    
17. -you don't have to also kill Rexxar's summons to win the fight
18. -if one of your heroes (example Darak) dies in the hero vs ghost hero challenge, the fight should immediately end (even if the spirit wolves are still there?)
19. -so I don't get it, this challenge is only for experience?
20. -the tauren doesn't have reincarnation
21. -oh yeah, music played through music channel please including the orc theme (I don't remember if it was here or in the barrows when meeting the orcs)
22. -those shades are horribly annoying mostly because they respawn; now I got to use one slot for the invisibility detecting item if I can remember where the shop selling it was... good thing, I just ignore them and run past; I usually storm bolted the ones that didn't respawn in previous maps; many things are ok if you have the right level to resist
    
23. -the ! over the living tree is horizontal
24. -why make it so that players select the units with the ! while one of their heroes is near them for interaction instead of just coming near them; to interact again, you have to leave the region/get a bit away from the NPC and come back again to it
25. -living tree quest completed? I had not discovered it yet. Who was supposed to give it? I met the tree though... Well, it should have appeared after speaking to it
    
26. -so, you're just supposed to kill the Maiden of Pain during the day without the unit attacking to get a tome? I thought it might have been a quest, some interaction, I don't know...

Spoiler: glowing cave

1. -you can see the enemy in the darkness if the healthbars are on and/or move the mouse over them and/or press F10; chain lightning them and they don't come to the heroes in the light but only some; or Darak might attack them bringing them to you
2. -from what I can see, an issue with the respawning system is that enemies appear in greater numbers in time
3. -during the meeting with Kaleo, the heroes moved and should have stopped; they were touching the golem
4. -not too nice to not be able to finish the lil' map in one go; basically you finish part of the map, then have to return later when you're stronger; it's a bit annoying if you have to remember this since quests are not ported on every map (which is good in terms of not cluttering and confusing the player but might make you forget about those in some maps if you don't note them somewhere)

Spoiler: lonely island

1. -trial and error, can't dodge turtles especially if it's night and they follow the ship until it sinks
2. -makruras stun for too long. I don't have time to heal Buri... even with the three heroes, the stun is annoying because the Makruras also summon multiple units and imagine fighting more than one abomination at once... the trick is to fight them either alone or with Darak and a melee hero only but they might still stun and summon before dying; well, you could always kill them fast with spells if you have enough mana; wait... there's a cooldown before they do it but you have to be extra careful to the abolish magic FX to realize when to move back
   
3. -I don't think they knew of stroke back then
4. -boats move too slow; it's a waste of time
5. -flying palms, sea cliff living ones (see pic)
6. -well, keeping one hero on the switch not only makes you lose manpower but more importantly experience; the bigger annoyance is the distance between the switch and the place to go to; because of this, it's better to let your heroes die to get them to the points together
7. -should the gargantuan sea turtles have 20/200 mana in the middle zone/temple/fort?; one of them had, that which was right at the entrance to the right
   
8. -by the way, you should remove/change the armour and damage type texts if they don't follow Warcraft III's
9. -permanently opening the two gates got me thinking you can feed the statues with all heroes at once
10. -the whole of the statues room should be visible because it's a waste of time to get to the edges to see if any egg is spawned there
11. -it's annoying that the upgrades are outside where the enemy is...
12. -"farming" simulator, so much gold for upgrades for a potion of mana after keeping the statues fed all that time in the countdwn? I understand that if you don't finish in time but... Another great quest; this wouldn't be that bad if players wouldn't have to actually spend that much gold on it... anyways, I'm not gonna waste time on it any more; if you like gambling, good for you, I hate it; when I design a game, it's not for people to waste time but relax, have a good time but of course, gamblers will have a great time
    
13. -if you reset the camera accidentally with DEL/DELETE you can't put it back up (statues room)

Spoiler: shimmer wood

1. -instead of Quests (title) the level name should be written there.
2. -you can use Solaire to get past Balaro and get the items in the back
3. -not sure if bears should be in the centaur camp or not
4. -when Edenvale folk talk to the heroes about the Sasquatches, there's one shot that shows the roof of a house as the main interest of the camera. It wouldn't be that bad if it didn't last so long and also being able to see through the roof.
5. -the items from Solaire should drop after the unit changes ownership
6. -I was leaving but I was welcomed to Edenvale
7. -how can Adias see the pressure plate? Over the gate?
8. -I think you need to set the undead units to neutral so their level will show when clicking on them too.
9. -sometimes creeps just run somewhere else during fights.
10. -what does Alpha mean on mercenaries? Are thee stronger versions or? I think they're like the WoW elites?
11. -thank the creator for mercenaries as they make things faster
12. -killing the corruptor won't make Balaro step aside
13. -some buffs are shared by more items like the Healing Salve's with Life Gem's although not both items are non-combat consumable
14. -dungeons are a pain without mercs
15. -I suggest notifying the player of the recommended level/power for each map
16. -would be nice for units to also have QWERT hotkeys for their spells
17. -not gonna burn Buri's body? What if he gets raised? Actually, why didn't they raise him?
    
18. -optional quest completed: Find Buri. It wasn't even discovered
19. -I hope Insurgent isn't Talia...
    
20. -Chen was teleported to the north of the map after finding Buri; the first time it did not happen

Spoiler: murloc caves

-first time I engaged the murloc boss it attacked and only after some time ran south; after load it ran from the start; that murloc is awfully annoying... running from north to south and the other way around without engaging for more than a few seconds; maybe it wouldn't be that bad if there weren't any other murlocs spawning constantly plus that killer poison... even with three heroes Darak may die because of the poison and the murloc escape due to very fast movement speed and regeneration; I had to use many summoned units to trap the creature and of course storm bolt; there was no shortcut made, the trees in the south where the gold was, were still there

Spoiler: edenvale city

1. -after finishing the mathematician's quest, another calculation appeared and then it told me I was too slow and that I lost
2. -wonder how those ships got there with all those bridges
3. -what about a packhorse instead of a static stash?
4. -creatures in the barracks should be placed in strength order. For instance, the Abomination is much more stronger than the centaur
5. -intended or not, experience is shared between the heroes if they are close enough while one of them engages in the arena; plus you can use Buri to cast stuff from behind the ring wall
6. -buffs should be removed and spells reset after an arena fight
7. -kept Buri on the runes and chose the monster, the text said it was a battle for two but Buri wasn't ported to the arena; maybe it only works on betas? Nope, same thing...
   
8. -heroes die in the arena; shouldn't they just reset and the player lose gold?
9. -shouldn't the Holy Order avatar spawn with full mana?
10. -after finishing the arena quest on alpha, betas don't give you any gold for winning; might it be because the avatar kills the units?
11. -I suggest only updating the crab meat number in the quest log; it's annoying to cover the screen with quest messages
12. -one of the sheep remained green after the 4th round... even after a new game; playing this during the night is ill advised; it's quite a pain much like the one with mathematics; a problem is that they appear too fast and maybe it would not be much of a problem if other colours would not appear at the same time too because they distract; the green one turned white when it was its turn to become green again; the trick is to look in the middle and use the peripheral vision at least it works most times; the last two are horror; wasting so much time for an ankh and a potion of mana? Really? What a rewarding quest...
    
13. -Musko has Healing Wave too? Is he a Paladin, or Holy/Light Order trainee too?
14. -funny thing is that there were no bandits soth before
15. -make sure to have units invulnerable like the sheep just in case any player decides to randomly kill NPCs
16. -the green gateway on the minimap should appear in the north after the magic line markings appear
17. -Musko is on a horse but the character's movement speed is average, slower than the other heroes' with boots of speed on otherwise it'd be the same, I think
    
18. -honestly the bandits are so weak you don't even need healing unless you're a lower level of course but well until you reach this place, you're pretty stuffed up. The bandits should all attack together, instead they can be drawn few by few
19. -why not make the key from Thompson a variable so you'd not have to waste space carrying it?
20. -same with the delicious crab food... man this is annoying to have to exchange the item using the stash

Spoiler: edendale dungeon+Arthas room+Throne Room

1. -weird that they'd waste time on tests instead of hastily going to search for the king
2. -"The light is with us! I curse you!"
3. -they're sacrificing their own soldiers?
4. -Elmrom looked as if he was actually waiting there but he should have not because finishing the trial isn't waiting
5. -I was on round 5 for the door-circles puzzle and failed it but the doors opened; actually, you only need to select the first circle, the door opens and then it doesn't matter if you fail
   
6. -the Pandaren is the weakest of the heroes; doesn't use mana at all...
7. -the key of the optional quest doesn't work anywhere unless it's in a place I can't reach yet for some reason; the secret key is used on the doors for the generators at the start of the level but those doors I've destroyed before...
   
8. -oh... but how're you supposed to know the generators in the beginning of the level will become vulnerable? Hopefully you can destroy them in time without the avatar
   
9. -some elevators (with magic barriers) are bugged; you can get off them while they're higher than others (see pic); there are more than 1; or is that the reverse way they're supposed to work? But sometimes you can walk on those which are on the same level; this is confusing; I just did a clicking fest to get out of there; feels pretty useless that you don't get anything but a "shortcut" to the north of the map; plus, it would be faster not to do the puzzle
   
10. -ok, but the treasure is protected by a barrier; do I need to return to this level with something? Actually, you can just pass through it
11. -many rooms in this map could look prettier
12. -fighting Arthas isn't quite hard if you attack the hero fast enough not to shoot the big damage spell again
13. -that level's minimap looks like a lion. Stormwind!?
14. -do you get anything out of that not saving the game achievement?
15. -right, waste more time sending a letter; as if no one else could...
16. -would make for replayability: deciding which hero to choose not having the Pandaren automatically
17. -not all heroes were present in the dungeon trials by the way
18. -right, so there's no one else but guards and soldiers to send for a piano fixer
19. -I hope you've credited the doodad paintings (Easter egg images)
20. -did you make the throne room map or is it a template. It's really lovely!
21. -you could change the hue of some icons to differentiate them, example: cloak of flames and fire
22. -no info in the library ?
23. -fighting the heroes in the dungeon again after the trial!?

Spoiler: shimmer coast

1. -the grunt should not decay during the scene
2. -these blacksmiths or artisans or whatchamacallit are in places with high danger; the other one in the Dark Wood with the undead...
3. -why use the same doodads (barrels), some being invulnerable, some not? I suggest a different model or hue for differentiation
4. Tojara is weak
   
5. -while fighting the tentacles, the camera is annoying because it's locked and you can't really see too well
6. -what about south and north grunt in the leaderboard; i know it's pretty obvious but still D:
7. -those sunken monsters shouldn't regenerate so fast... the battle is quite annoying at first because the place is cluttered: wolves+sludges and Darak gets hit easily by the tentacles and sunken monsters but once you kill the first 1-2 monsters, it gets soft; trick is to kill the tentacles quick and shock the sunkens
8. -the kraken(s?) (or whatever it was supposed to be) wasn't supposed to be sent by the undead (team name) I guess since Insurgent said the Fire Demon shouldn't have killed so many orcs
9. -Fury Dash is useful; it's not like you have to run after someone/something; I suggest it increase attack speed instead
10. -the hidden hydra in the north is weaker than the one in the south so it's only for the bullet that you'd get the trees down... I don't use bullets anyway because of insufficient inventory space and because they'd be too powerful; might as well put a stronger creature there that fits the forest theme

Spoiler: barrows

1. -Duplicate name/unit and lookalike (even size) level 9 Thunder Lizard but with different stats? Same with those levelled 13
2. -those lizards are too many from the start
   
3. -you can get through doodads to pass to the western exit from the nearby eastern orc camp (see pic)
4. -I suggest respawns be greater in number depending on hero level not on how many times you've killed the spawned; but yeah, they also spawn too fast in some places too
   
5. -can't have mercs and sappers at the same time... Well, I only use the sappers for the trees anyway... don't think anyone uses them to kill units
6. -should thunder lizard eggs still drop after you've found one?
7. -the warlock in the middle of the other two turned itself into a fel beast and died quicker or did it happen after it died, I couldn't tell because it happened very fast because I've cast Acid Bomb on the warlock?
8. -the shimmerweed just appears from out of nowhere, it moves from region to region or it was there near the two warlocks to the southeast all along? I found it where the lizards immediately northeast from where the last warlock was after I killed the unit (the second warlock from the west to the east)
9. -there's an issue with orbs on Darak; now, not even the one of darkness works anymore...
10. -worth it, Drek'thar said, right... it's just a useless healing potion, not even a permanent stat giving tome. And no, it wasn't one of the most time eating quests. That's for the Lonely Island's
11. -small units (like the Shaman and Witch Doctor) can get through doodads (see pic); they can get through most if not all of these rocks on the map
12. -do the eggs and shimmerweed found gather somehow for the player not to get one of each then go to Drek'thar but to be able to create more potions at the same time?
13. -I suggest different colours for runes so you won't either click them by accident thinking it's healing or mana or waste time hovering over/clicking the runes to see what they are; it's annoying when you accidentally get spirit link on low hp mercs like sappers, shamans etc.
14. -blind eh? That's why they keep shooting mana burn?
15. -maybe a faster way to travel between maps (directly from here to edendale) with zeppelins?

Spoiler: long pass

1. -wait a minute, there are only 8 levels in the hero spell descriptions but actually more to choose
2. -now, I really am angry for wasting 9k gold on the statues...
3. -Arthas chain lightning, for real?
4. -Lord Wood is running all over the place; found him again fighting Sasquatches and ran again somewhere to through the undead base in the southwest; he came back with a group and killed the bastard; wait, this one was level 3; afterwards the other one with level 9 came back and killed that one too... third level Laron Wood again. Do they die and revive at an altar? It could be an issue with that because the hero might be summoned again instead of revived? I don't know...
   
5. -after the meat wagon zone you can go west through the trees toward north and do your stuff while the wagons remain there; of course the same undead come from time to time (see pic); not to mention you could potentially do this with sappers too; went my way and killed everything beforehand
   
6. -hehe, they're actually rebuilding, not for long! "Purge!"
   
7. -Laron Wood without an army doesn't know what to do, moves aimlessly from a direction to the other; happened in the main undead base
   
8. -treants belong to the undead?
9. -shouldn't the requirement be for Musko and/or Arthas (depending on which you choose) not to die too? Or are they also revived for the AI?
10. -Arthas did not leave all the artifacts I've put on the hero
11. -too bad there's no stash here; it's a pity to lose those items which you could put on a future hero but well, I guess the player'll have to let go; taking one at a time to edenvale would be...

Spoiler: Stormhaul

1. -why do Rum for a Friend and Broken Piano appear on every map?
2. -shouldn't enemy towers give you more gold? They don't give at all :|
3. -I was doing quite fine, the titans I could have handled on and on, at least I think
4. -Arthas didn't say anything to Adias after finishing the titans quest (hide and seek completed too)
5. -indeed, Gryphons require a Castle to be trained
6. -so titans give me +300 but I don't get it? What's this? Actually, I'm not getting any more money even though +gold appears after I kill enemies... (maybe because I've trained one demolisher and researched its upgrades!?)
7. -should make the titans another colour on the map as they can be confused with the orcs when they go out of their base
8. -you can reach Glearing Shore by just running through their base; I thought you'd have to finish them here first and then be able to go there

Spoiler: Glearing Shore

1. -Arthas was daydreaming or did the titans just appeared out of nowhere? Because if they did, every hero could die like that...
2. -the artillery units can hit the Akiba wards
3. -I hope I can go back to finish some other optional quests I've left like the one with the molten boss in the dark cave level (dark wood submap)
4. -last StarCraft (epilogue) II level much ?
5. -bested by some infernals? Heh... and I even thought they died too
   
6. -OK, so you can't turn back, it's over; it'd be good to get the heroes back to edenvale and let the player finish all that there is to and then somewhere in edenvale you could click to finish the act; I don't remember being notified that this level will not enable you to return
7. -or I guess Arthas knew the destiny and did not do anything against it?

Would have been much better if this were an original story than an altering of Warcraft III's...
It's not too late to change names... places already have different ones.

Many sparks of genius; a solid max rating from me.

Approved.

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EDIT: Forgotten to approve, sorry.
Also forgot the pictures...

 

[Championfighter25]

Would have been much better if this were an original story than an altering of Warcraft III's...
It's not too late to change names... places already have different ones.

He just uses some Warcraft names for supporting characters.
Other than that, this campaign has absolutely nothing to do with Warcraft lore.
He says so in the overview part of the description.

 

[VadyaQ]

I'm still not clear on what you're talking about. Now I know that you play on Hard difficulty because you got Ring of Greed. You leave Edenvale City after the Edenvale Dungeon right? And was that when the game crashed?
Also what Warcraft 3 version are you playing the campaign on?

Yes, I'm leaving Evendale City (not Evendale Palace) after finishing main quest and piano quest in Evendale Dungeon. Now my main quest is going to Barrens, but everytime I try to leave Evendale City for Shimmer Wood I get a crash in a loading screen. I am also playing on 1.29 patch.

 

[deepstrasz]

He just uses some Warcraft names for supporting characters.

I disagree. It's not just some.

Other than that, this campaign has absolutely nothing to do with Warcraft lore.

It does in many ways, there's similarity all over: orcs, humans, undead, demons. Fight of orcs and humans, then alliance between them, the undead and demons together vs the orcs and humans together (sure, no nelves but still).
Such similarities are also present in other HiveW popular campaigns but there at least names are different with characters being as original as possible. Here, Arthas is still arrogant as in Warcraft III, and so on.

 

[Lenneth]

I'm about to start the mission where we have to escort the caravans. My heroes are at level 20
The difficulty is not overhelming so far: the more annoying creeps I've encountered were the shades in the dark wood (their spells were very powerful and they were only level 8) and the giant turtles who like hunting down my boats.
I 've only been smoked in the glowing cave but my heroes were only at level 12

Here's the sidequest I wasn't able to complete yet and any help is welcome
- precious information: I think that quest lacks of description: we don't know the name of the items the mage will need later and it's very confusing. As soon as I get a new item I'm always wondering if I should keep it or not. I'm currently looking for an abomination axe.
- herb collect: the herbs spawn randomly (we can see their shadow) and my current record is 12, even though I gave my heroes items to increase their speed. I think I only have to try harder.
- the big murloc: according to the mage I need a fire strike staff to destroy the big mushrooms and I have no idea where to find it.
- lonely island: I couldn't find the password for the doors but now I know what to do.

 

[Championfighter25]

- lonely island: I couldn't find the password for the doors but now I know what to do.

Warlocks located near the door have a chance to drop part of it ( displayed as floating text) if you kill them. The password is 6 letters long.

 

[Lenneth]

Warlocks located near the door have a chance to drop part of it ( displayed as floating text) if you kill them. The password is 6 letters long.

yep, someone gave the solution earlier and thanks to your review I know the purpose of the maiden of pain.
I'm drawing near the end of the campaign and I don't want to miss anything, also with the amount of hidden optional quests, this campaign really needs a walkthrough.

 

[Thunder1]

i have several problems.

1 ) cant fnd the spider crabs =(
2)what can i do with Puto?
3) how i can destroy the rock chunks?


thanks for help

 

[Championfighter25]

1 ) cant fnd the spider crabs

I think you're talking about the crabs in the Edenvale City map?
Go to the left part of the Edenvale city map, there you'll find the crabs, and you can kill them for their meat. (If you're doing that optional quest)
Make sure you have no cheat enabled since that prevents them from spawning.

3) how i can destroy the rock chunks?

I think you're referring to the rock chucks in shimmer wood?
In one of the bandit camps on the same map there is a lever. Find it, hit it, and the chucks will after that break.

 

[Unregret]

Rau Dens, Hao Hao, wth.???!!!. I can't stop laughing. Dude, i guess you have a very hard time during youth.

Keep doing god work, dude.

P/s: Not enough gold to buy ingredients to finish main quest. 1st time.

 

[Thunder1]

I think you're talking about the crabs in the Edenvale City map?
Go to the left part of the Edenvale city map, there you'll find the crabs, and you can kill them for their meat. (If you're doing that optional quest)
Make sure you have no cheat enabled since that prevents them from spawning.


I think you're referring to the rock chucks in shimmer wood?
In one of the bandit camps on the same map there is a lever. Find it, hit it, and the chucks will after that break.

thanks it works

 

[conspiracy]

I cant find any of spider crabs , there is nothing on lefts side in Edenvale City

 

[Championfighter25]

I cant find any of spider crabs , there is nothing on lefts side in Edenvale City

Disable the iseedeadpeople cheat.
When enabled it causes a bug that prevents them from spawning.

 

[Zyle]

I can't use the Multiple Heroes Mode at Wymstone

 

[Alex Geary]

How am I supposed to find out the password to the gate where the Sea King is? @ThinHo

in the cave in the dark woods i completed the optional quest which opened the gate, but the circle of power does nothing for me.

 

[ThinhHo]

Orc campaign inspired hooked me, but...

1) Yeah, the intro is too tedious and you could cut down on the pain by leaving your design philosophy rants out of it. Ask yourself, what does the player need to know vs. what do you simply feel like sharing about your development efforts, and cut the latter part out and put it in this description instead. I think you could have removed the whole thing out, really. The only thing I needed to know was item stacking (if even that), the rest I would have found out without thinking you're a moron for not giving me a heads-up. And you could tell that without forced dialogues too. Maybe just tell us, in massive caps, skip the intro unless you're a total newbie.
2) It doesn't get better that it continues with a long talk with that boy. Voice acting would make it all nicer, but that's probably a tall order. Would have probably felt much better if I skipped the tutorial.
3) The first puzzle - the very first quest - isn't about using your brain, it's about jotting down notes. I would actually prefer it if the hero knew when he had found the best merchant for an item, and we had more elements like finding the guy hidden in the forest to it instead.

So anyway, got out of the village, met a fellow paladin. Whose skillset seems almost a copy paste from blood mage? The ultimate differs, the rest might even have the same stats. The protagonist has way more levels available to his skills than that guy, which seems odd. At the very least you should rename them so they sound more paladin-ish. He just feels like a blood mage with the wrong model to me.

Also the protagonist's skills seem to leave little room to creativity. I took his Q, then his W, and I can't upgrade either of them until level 4. So I seem to be stuck in a QWEQWEQWE cycle without having the ability to focus much on one of them. While we're at it, tooltip doesn't need to spell out the mana cost, the UI tells me anyway. But, big kudos on making the skills QWER.

However what really made me stop playing (for now anyway) is the constant running around. There's just nothing happening except me waiting for these normal speed heroes to cross a map. Sure there's combat here and there, but I don't feel encouraged to explore when doubling back after a dead end takes forever.

Your English is above decent. There are many maps whose language made me stop playing them. You could perhaps benefit from this though, as I felt you were using would in place of will often.

Oh also, destructibles that aren't meant to be obstacles should die in 1-2 hits. I need like ten swings to break a rock chunk to see if there's any treasure to be had.

Last edit (who am I kidding?): The morning of my departure I was able to kill the friendly family. Is that a whoopsie or an Easter Egg? I killed Tommy and his parents, but I guess that in order to complete the egg hunt I should have bashed Ivan's head in too

Hey man, thanks for the short review. Your comment tells me a lot about yourself and how different we are from each other in our ways of enjoying the arts. As you play through this campaign, you can see how the campaign indirectly shows who I am as a person. It's a piece of art that reflects who I am. All of what you describe above shows us that it would be how you'd make your campaign and how your campaign would represent yourself as a person. I also appreciate that you're the kind of person who strongly point out many little things that can improved. Thank you for playing. I would hope you'd find campaigns which are more suitable to your taste in the future.

Spoiler: Spoiler, Answer to Lenneth

I 've only been smoked in the glowing cave but my heroes were only at level 12

The good level for that map is lv20 if you wonder.

- precious information: I think that quest lacks of description: we don't know the name of the items the mage will need later and it's very confusing. As soon as I get a new item I'm always wondering if I should keep it or not. I'm currently looking for an abomination axe.

The items are random. The mage has several options to choose from for every level of items. This quest is only for dedicated players who have the patience and time to discover every little secret of the game. If you don't have enough patience nor time for this campaign, don't sweat it. The abomination axe is a rare drop from the Abominations in Dark Wood by the way if you are still trying to figure it out.

- the big murloc: according to the mage I need a fire strike staff to destroy the big mushrooms and I have no idea where to find it.

Sorry for the late response, the Flame Strike Staff is sold in Edenvale Dungeon in one of the shops. In fact you can find the Murloc without the use of the item at all.

Spoiler: Spoiler, Answer to Thunder1

2)what can i do with Puto?

There's nothing you can do with Pluto. A peculiar reward, isn't it? But it's not regular Warcraft 3 you're playing.

Rau Dens, Hao Hao, wth.???!!!. I can't stop laughing. Dude, i guess you have a very hard time during youth.

I don't know how you came to that conclusion seriously. It's creative freedom you use when you create campaigns, you can put anything into it anyway. Thanks for playing it. Did you get past the first quest?

Spoiler: Spoiler, Answer to Zyle

I can't use the Multiple Heroes Mode at Wymstone

I've never got that problem before. Did you use the Multiple Heroes Mode with Buri? Maybe that's the reason why because I forgot to put him to into the Multiple Heroes list.

Spoiler: Spoiler, Answer to Alex Geary

in the cave in the dark woods i completed the optional quest which opened the gate, but the circle of power does nothing for me.

This is the first case anyone has this bug. Did you have any cheat available? How many heroes did you have? What are their lvs?

Spoiler: Spoiler, Answer to VadyaQ

Yes, I'm leaving Evendale City (not Evendale Palace) after finishing main quest and piano quest in Evendale Dungeon. Now my main quest is going to Barrens, but everytime I try to leave Evendale City for Shimmer Wood I get a crash in a loading screen. I am also playing on 1.29 patch.

I believe you got one of the rarest bug in the game and there's no way to fix it. Your save game may have been corrupted by your computer. I got this bug in Dark Wood several times(1 out of 12 playthroughs). If you play the campaign again, I don't think you would get that bug.

 

[Unregret]

I don't know how you came to that conclusion seriously.

Well, we all know those words mean. Only a true Vietnamese student have so much experience that willing to depict those inside a game. I'm glad actually.
The first quest is very easy, it's just i was eager to buy anything I can without checking the price.

 

[conspiracy]

Hello , why i cant broke this crawlers ?

 

[Championfighter25]

Hello , why i cant broke this crawlers ?

Bring both generators down to low HP, and after that finish them off.
You using a cheat code may have also caused a bug in the map. In that case disable it and repeat the step mentioned above.
If that also doesn't work, you may have to begin the Act from the start.

 

[conspiracy]

Any solution how to pass over this ?

 

[ymh32]

I like the skyrim BGM.

 

[Alex Geary]

How am I supposed to find out the password to the gate where the Sea King is? @ThinHo

the sheep mini game did not work for me, also I'm guessing that killing off the sheep fails the quest.

 

[Lenneth]

Thanks for the tips ThinhHo, I think I completed every sidequest (except the weed collector)
nonetheless there's still things that bother me:
- I couldn't find the shade the old mage told me about, it is supposed to appear in evandale city at night and we need 3 powerful heroes
- I didn't understand the purpose of the abyss, is this just endless waves of ennemies (like a survival mode)? or there's something more (edit: ok i figured it out)

I've also found some minor bugs:
- many creeps respawn in weird location (behind trees/rocks, on the top of a hill...). It happens in lots of maps so I can't be very specific (thunder lizard in the barrows, murlocs and centaurs in shimmer wood, ghouls in dark wood's first map...)
- after the cutscene where we found buri's corpse, when I regain control of my heroes they were in different location
- the murloc emperor has a goofy behaviour (like the big murloc in lonely island)
- sometimes when I traded items it was marked as a completed sidequest (calamity ring+cloak of flames, calamity ring+mask of silence) and sometimes it didn't (rusty mining pick-claws of attacks +9)
- the quest "precious information" is completed even though the old mage wants us to bring him another item

 

[TheShaman]

The door to the piano part won't open

 

[ymh32]

How to reach the island？

 

[drakexx]

Hey. How do I start the Fallen lords bonus map? I've completed the campaign but have no idea how to start it, since it concludes the act

 

[Lenneth]

Hey. How do I start the Fallen lords bonus map? I've completed the campaign but have no idea how to start it, since it concludes the act

try the portal in shimmer woods (north west of the map)

The door to the piano part won't open

weird, the door should open automatically

How to reach the island？

with the boat...

 

[Championfighter25]

Hey. How do I start the Fallen lords bonus map? I've completed the campaign but have no idea how to start it, since it concludes the act

Complete the optional quest in the sub-map glowing cave(located in dark wood)
If you've done that, the map will unlock after you've completed the act.
The portal in Shimmer wood leads you to a completely different map called "the abyss"

 

[JinJang]

So when will you release the next chapter/update @ThinhHo ? And how many heroes you gonna allow in this campaign? I guess 4 heroes is a good number

 

[conspiracy]

how to pass over this circles ?

 

[ozisop12]

dam this is fun nice job i have finished yet but still i am having a lot of fun i like how there are those hits that tell you that that is not the way for the story but you can still explore i really like that you can explore with freely and i like that is says just so you are not confused nicely done man

 

[Lenneth]

how to pass over this circles ?

come on, it's just a memory test
memorize the patterns then repeat what you saw by clicking on the circles
there's 4 or 5 rounds

 

[ymh32]

come on, it's just a memory test
memorize the patterns then repeat what you saw by clicking on the circles
there's 4 or 5 rounds

Are there some good items?I am now in round 18.

 

[TheShaman]

try the portal in shimmer woods (north west of the map)



weird, the door should open automatically



with the boat...

I went there and stood next to it,after a whileof going round it I even used iseedeadpeople to see if it's the right door.

 

[Lenneth]

I really don't know, maybe it's a patch issue.
During my playthrough the door automatically opened when I was close to it and using the vision cheat is pointless because you already see the entire map.

It's just a sidequest and if you complete it you can only change the music played in the castle, so it doesn't prevent you from continuing the game

 

[SonOfLight]

Hi. Just made an account to leave a comment in this thread. This is such a great campaign and I really love the story! But the problem is the game crash when Darak fought the monsters in the boat. It says this:

"This application has encountered a critical error

ERROR #131 (0x85100083) The file data is corrupt

File = war3mapMap.blp
Chache Read= Decompression failed
Raw Read = ReadFileUnbuffered() Failed"


What should I do? This is the problem with Blizzard or the campign itself? I tried to play it for several times but the result was the same. It kept crashing. I'm so eager to finish this campaign because like I said, this is a great campaign! Thanks!

 

[ozisop12]

hi im in the shimmer wood i killed the sasquatch and i dont know where to go next also what is this dark woods i have a totam and i have no idea what dose it do? (there is this place that has a seal like in the mid left i havnt been able to enter it yet)

 

[ozisop12]

the only other unexplored areas are: right to the goblin market there is a corrupted path that is a bit visible but not all of it i cant enter it and in the bottom corner under the corrupted area there is a big place which i cant enter either

 

[Lenneth]

@SonOfLight make sure you play with the recommended patch, I had no issue with patch 1.29

hi im in the shimmer wood i killed the sasquatch and i dont know where to go next also what is this dark woods i have a totam and i have no idea what dose it do? (there is this place that has a seal like in the mid left i havnt been able to enter it yet)

you have to go to evandale city, which is top right of the shimmerwoods map
dark woods is an optional area you can access later in the game

 

[SonOfLight]

@SonOfLight make sure you play with the recommended patch, I had no issue with patch 1.29

Hi, thanks for your reply. I tried to reinstall the game and used patch 1.29 instead but it updated itself to 1.30? Do I have to disable my internet connection? Thanks again!

 

[DeAtH._.KiTtY]

Hi ThinhHo,
Your campaign changed a lot since the first demo until release. You work so hard to improve your terraining and triggers skill. The storyline is more emotions than before.

Good luck for you to release Act II!

 

[timothytai0628]

may i ask a question, what is the password in lonely island, i try my best but still not figure out

 

[Championfighter25]

may i ask a question, what is the password in lonely island, i try my best but still not figure out

Spoiler

nobita

 

[timothytai0628]

Spoiler

nobita

thx a lot and i spend another half hour to open up the inner gate and playing the litter phoenix egg game where i only can have the potion of less mana, should bring boots of speed next time

 

[ozisop12]

i was at the city i said i killed the sasquatch

 

[Lenneth]

i was at the city i said i killed the sasquatch

if you're still in shimmer woods then you are not in the city but in the town
after killing the sasquatch, there should be a transition (North of the town) which leads to the evandale city map

 

[ymh32]

Catious ring.I don't understand the effect.Gains resources from attacks.what resources can i gain?Gold?Mana?I try,but nothing.

 

[felixng2012]

Can someone help me with the password for the bottom gate where the sea king is. I've been running around killing for a while and still havent figured it out.

Spoiler: Buri

Also I regret feeding him hp tomes when he ends up dying later lol