Curse of the Forsaken v3.0.1

[1234]

it looks good for me

 

[NourmeusXL]

As i see from the screenshots i think i will really enjoy this campain (Note that Sylvanas is my fav leader in World of Warcraft and the Forsaken are my fav race too)
I will get back to you when i finish playing it

You did change the story (exsample:worgen and forsaken are at war)but your ver is really good and so as the whole campain 100/10

 

[neo_sluf]

Well i am happy this map is approved...anyway i like the campaign i already reach Might of the Forsaken and still playing...all i could say epic story...

 

[JamesAlex12]

Completed this game. Pretty challenging and I very like it.

I have found some... bugs? In this game.

It is at where you reach the Icecrown Citadel, when you kill the first lord, he will just spam 'Bound by Bone' for the game, which makes it annoying and I can't read the dialog correctly.

And another one is also in this map, where you reach the "betrayal" of sylvanas, and have some talk, my units and the demon units would not be able to move or attack.

I have only expected these which makes it annoying for me to play. By the way, keep it up for this game,

 

[chubemocboc]

The trailer is amazing. I should try this map now.

 

[MrHobby53]

Awesome finally accpeted

 

[tomoraider]

The trailer is amazing. I should try this map now.

Really? I thought that trailer wasn't really good

 

[HammerFist132]

Man honestly I cant say to map is too good, when I saw maps on first look, it was looking like some epic project, and your detailed description was making me think that. But I can say to map is not that good in game, at least for me. U should work of custom spells, u havent blend in game look of wow and wc3 models, and they look bad one next to the other and when I opened it in world edittor triggers are leaking. My rating is 3/5, but so far I wont rate it, I expect u to work on it more , +rep for big work.

 

[tomoraider]

Man honestly I cant say to map is too good, when I saw maps on first look, it was looking like some epic project, and your detailed description was making me think that. But I can say to map is not that good in game, at least for me. U should work of custom spells, u havent blend in game look of wow and wc3 models, and they look bad one next to the other and when I opened it in world edittor triggers are leaking. My rating is 3/5, but so far I wont rate it, I expect u to work on it more , +rep for big work.

Thanks for the feedback, but I'm not sure what you mean about WoW and WC3 models. I only used two WoW models in the entire campaign, and those two actually seemed to fit in.

And I'm not really sure I know what these trigger leaks are, I'm not very experienced with triggers.

 

[HammerFist132]

Only thing what I mean about models is to u shoulld avoid putting low poly and high poly models close to each other(detailed and low detailed). Also work on coding spellcs.
About leaks: well search forums here, u will get skilled with time. I can give u few excample for gui spells for sylvanaas.

 

[light070]

This campain is very good, I found one bug that in last chapter,after defeating phaelynne,no one except for sylvanas could move.

 

[illmaster]

This campain is very good, I found one bug that in last chapter,after defeating phaelynne,no one except for sylvanas could move.

I don't think it is a bug

Sylvanas still look like a ghost(transparent) at the last cinematic when she pt lich king crown on phaelynne

 

[tomoraider]

I don't think it is a bug

Sylvanas still look like a ghost(transparent) at the last cinematic when she pt lich king crown on phaelynne

That's odd, it's not supposed to happen. I'll look into that.

EDIT: I just tested that battle and everyone were able to move for me. Everyone do freeze during the fight except Sylvanas, but they unfreeze when you defeat Phaelynne. I really don't know what happened.

 

[cleavinghammer]

Bug in the fourth chapter: after the SC's base is destroyed and the cinematic ends, Phaellyne is teleported into the now-enemy base and obviously dies very quickly.

Also, skipping the intro cinematic causes Darkclaw's items to appear in your base rather than where the bodies are.

I ilke the campaign so far story-wise (though there are a few bugs like Sylvanas saying "Oh my God") . Gameplay-wise I find it very difficult to defend against simultaneous attacks with less-than-adequate troops.

 

[tomoraider]

Bug in the fourth chapter: after the SC's base is destroyed and the cinematic ends, Phaellyne is teleported into the now-enemy base and obviously dies very quickly.

Also, skipping the intro cinematic causes Darkclaw's items to appear in your base rather than where the bodies are.

I ilke the campaign so far story-wise (though there are a few bugs like Sylvanas saying "Oh my God") . Gameplay-wise I find it very difficult to defend against simultaneous attacks with less-than-adequate troops.

Thanks for the feedback. I will check out those bugs immediately.

 

[cleavinghammer]

The fifth level worked all right, but for some reason during the attack on the last red base Varimathras just sat there without attacking (he'd behaved normally during attacks on my base).

 

[Forsaken]

Hey, i have played once more your campaign and now i see some other bugs like the quests in chapter 9 (Hour of the Forsaken), you completed the quest but them does't appear as completed.
and in chapter 11 (fall of the lich king) i see this bug that the rest demons forces remain before the cinemact attack sylvanas in the cine and do that she die or nearly die, when i play she didn't die by 15 hipoints, if she didn't have the inner fire to do more armor she will die :/

but in the rest i didn't find more bugs and i just love your campaigns

 

[cleavinghammer]

The dungeon level has a bug, some units were paused for Anub'arak's final cutscene, while others attacked him. Also, at some point the torch becomes completely useless, sight range remains at maximum (which allows you to see flat, unterrained areas).

And if that what Anub'arak sounds like in WoW I am very glad not to play it.

Buggy cutscene in the Citadel: After the point where you find undead and demons fighting, I sent a unit to the left room. This summoned a bunch of demons and triggered the cutscene, but some units weren't there despite talking.

And you should really set both teams to share ressources. It's hard enough keeping your units alive without worrying about which hero picks up the money.

 

[tomoraider]

The dungeon level has a bug, some units were paused for Anub'arak's final cutscene, while others attacked him. Also, at some point the torch becomes completely useless, sight range remains at maximum (which allows you to see flat, unterrained areas).

And if that what Anub'arak sounds like in WoW I am very glad not to play it.

Buggy cutscene in the Citadel: After the point where you find undead and demons fighting, I sent a unit to the left room. This summoned a bunch of demons and triggered the cutscene, but some units weren't there despite talking.

And you should really set both teams to share ressources. It's hard enough keeping your units alive without worrying about which hero picks up the money.

Thanks for the feedback, I'll check out those bugs.

Unfortunately, Anub'arak sounds like that in WoW. Voices are usually pretty good there, but he just sounds awful.

 

[cleavinghammer]

Especially jarring when Kel'thuzad sounds so awesome.

Anyway: I finished the campaign, and I found the whole thing quite good. I especially like the Orgrimmar and Azjol-nerub levels (playing that one without the torch is even better).

As a general note, sometimes the music plays too loud when the boss is talking (Arthas, Kel'thuzad).

One thing I found slightly disappointing is the transition between the fourth and fifth levels, where Sylvanas goes off with the caravan. I was hoping helping the blood elves'd be a playable level.

 

[tomoraider]

Especially jarring when Kel'thuzad sounds so awesome.

Anyway: I finished the campaign, and I found the whole thing quite good. I especially like the Orgrimmar and Azjol-nerub levels (playing that one without the torch is even better).

As a general note, sometimes the music plays too loud when the boss is talking (Arthas, Kel'thuzad).

One thing I found slightly disappointing is the transition between the fourth and fifth levels, where Sylvanas goes off with the caravan. I was hoping helping the blood elves'd be a playable level.

Actually there is a map for that. It happens in my other campaign, Rise of the Blood Elves. You get to control both the blood elves and the Forsaken.

EDIT: Though, the Forsaken there is just the basic undead race. I plan to update Rise of the Blood elves and will change the Forsaken to the race from this campaign.

 

[cleavinghammer]

All the more reason to include it, then.

 

[-Kobas-]

Few cinematic can fire simultaneously.
There is bj global I think that can be used to see is cinematic mode already on, use it to delay instead of playing cinematic at same time.

(Happened on that map with worgens, when I destroyed both murlocks and enemy base)...

Oh btw I found 2 autocast spells on same unit bad idea, maybe make poison passive, or create custom spell that will work like critical and add poison effect.

 

[Xonok]

I think the campaign is a bit too hard. Basically the best way to survive is destroying at least one enemy base before they even make their first attack.

In multiple maps(mainly the first, as I was unprepared) the enemy just keeps pounding on the defenses, they rarely let you do anything. In the first map I had to constantly stop attacking the scalet crusade because my base was about to be destroyed.
I guess the problem is about siege units. Lots of siege units in the first level is not a very good design. In later levels I rarely had to fight any siege units.

Also, in the mission with lich king all units on the map froze, except sylvanas. Most of them didn't even try to resist when I killed them. But then again the map had turned impossible to beat, because I simply can't fight an army by using only sylvanas.
I guess it's a bug that the units froze, so without that it would be possible.
Btw, I soloed the lich king with sylvanas. Even he was frozen.
Overall I couldn't actually play the campaign much. It was often either next to impossible or just confusing. In the first mission, for example I failed to find 1 scarlet base. I kept looking for it for half an hour, so eventually I thought that the map had bugged, so I used iseedeadpeople. I also couldn't attack the main base, even though I tried to get to it, as the trees were invincible.

I'm sorry to be so negative. The lore was very good and well explained though, especially in finale.

Anyways, where did you get that Vry'kul model? (Where could I get it?)

 

[tomoraider]

I think the campaign is a bit too hard. Basically the best way to survive is destroying at least one enemy base before they even make their first attack.

In multiple maps(mainly the first, as I was unprepared) the enemy just keeps pounding on the defenses, they rarely let you do anything. In the first map I had to constantly stop attacking the scalet crusade because my base was about to be destroyed.
I guess the problem is about siege units. Lots of siege units in the first level is not a very good design. In later levels I rarely had to fight any siege units.

Also, in the mission with lich king all units on the map froze, except sylvanas. Most of them didn't even try to resist when I killed them. But then again the map had turned impossible to beat, because I simply can't fight an army by using only sylvanas.
I guess it's a bug that the units froze, so without that it would be possible.
Btw, I soloed the lich king with sylvanas. Even he was frozen.
Overall I couldn't actually play the campaign much. It was often either next to impossible or just confusing. In the first mission, for example I failed to find 1 scarlet base. I kept looking for it for half an hour, so eventually I thought that the map had bugged, so I used iseedeadpeople. I also couldn't attack the main base, even though I tried to get to it, as the trees were invincible.

I'm sorry to be so negative. The lore was very good and well explained though, especially in finale.

Anyways, where did you get that Vry'kul model? (Where could I get it?)

Thanks for the feedback, I'll check out those bugs. I'll also see if I can lower the difficulty a little.

I got the val'kyr model from... I think it's called wc3 underground or warcraft underground.

 

[HammerFist132]

yes mate and for me campaing have been a little too hard. U should make, think greater mana regen for heroes, a little weaker units, etc. Map is probably easy for u because u played it 1000 times

 

[tomoraider]

yes mate and for me campaing have been a little too hard. U should make, think greater mana regen for heroes, a little weaker units, etc. Map is probably easy for u because u played it 1000 times

Probably was, I guess

I think I'll make AI take longer to make units, remove some of their upgrades and create less units sometimes.

 

[knight26]

Im at the last chapter, in the lich kings fortress. I'll finish that later .
Bugs:
At the chapter to defend Ogrimmar, after i successfully defended the city, in the cinematic afterwards, king Varian died, and i failed the game.. even though i WON? lol. (but i waited till the end, and it actually said victory, so not a big bug but you might want to check it out).

At the chapter to find the elven base and Alextrasa, I assume the YELLOW undead base is supposed to be unbeatable?, but once i fully upgraded my units and alliance's units, and made 3 armies, it was very easy to beat them. goes the same for the Kel'thuzad base(dark green).

Overall opinion:
This has been a great campaign and I personally very much enjoyed the warcraft atmosphere I found myself in. You did a great job recreating the same style. I only hope that you will continue these campaign sprees, and cant wait to know what are you planning next.

The difficulty was challenging because sometimes you had to control more than one base, BUT it still was easy if you are a pro warcrafter, so please dont make it any easier. Or make options about difficulty, i like it just the way it is now.

Personally, the most difficult map was defeating Balnazzar, because I had to fight my own army at the end, and i had created a HUGE army, and a very well defended base!
Notes:
There are a few models and skins on THW that would work a lot better than the usual undead ones for the forsaken, but i understand if you wanted a more standard warcraft feeling to it.

In your future works however, I'd suggest that you change the altered races entirely, it gives a new, more warm experience for the players.
And i personally thank you for making this campaign, and hope to see more coming soon. If you are planning something, please post me a VM or a message, I'd like to see the progress

 

[tomoraider]

Thank you, I'm really glad you liked it. I'll check out those bugs when I have time.
I think I'll lower difficulty a little. Not much, but just a little.
My current project is improving my previous campaign and making it a bit more tie in with this one. I'm also thinking about perhaps making an orc campaign after I finish improving the blood elven one.

 

[cleavinghammer]

I actually beat the yellows and purples as soon as I could, because otherwise there'd be no way to attack the others without your base being wrecked. Steam Engines, how I love thee.

Speaking of which, two more problems on that level: When you get to the blood elf base, it's possible that Sylvanas get stuck behind all her units, and the cutscene just stays there (skippable, fortunately, but you lose a lot of plot). Also, it's possible for Alexstraza to die if you take too long to get to her, but the cutscene goes as if you'd saved her.

Also, you should use the ping system like the Blizzard campaign does for new objectives.

 

[tomoraider]

To anyone who had a bug in the last chapter where all units except Sylvanas froze, could you tell me when exactly it happened?

 

[illmaster]

To anyone who had a bug in the last chapter where all units except Sylvanas froze, could you tell me when exactly it happened?

do you mean the one when phaelynne said 'It's jus between you and me sylvanas!'?

 

[tomoraider]

do you mean the one when phaelynne said 'It's jus between you and me sylvanas!'?

It could be that some bug happened here and everyone remained frozen after that.

 

[cleavinghammer]

I didn't get that, though some units had the divine shield special effect weirdly placed (one sorceress had it floating abover her head).

Speaking of which, Sylvanas' silence and Jaina's telekinesis have a weird bug where the aiming circle is actually offset from the actual location, like it's floating in the air, this results in the spell being off-centered towards the bottom of the screen.

 

[-Kobas-]

Campaign is good if we speak about mechanics and gameplay in general, but story is just horrible.
I don't like when people use Blizzard characters as their own,
because there is already written story about everything that happened before and after wc3 RoC and TFT...

Example: I don't see point changing Jaina model as well as spells.

 

[tomoraider]

Campaign is good if we speak about mechanics and gameplay in general, but story is just horrible.
I don't like when people use Blizzard characters as their own,
because there is already written story about everything that happened before and after wc3 RoC and TFT...

Example: I don't see point changing Jaina model as well as spells.

Umm, why does it matter if there is already a written story for those characters? I wanted to create a sorta sequal to WC3 that follows WoW's storyline to some extent, but I changed it how I like it.

 

[-Kobas-]

Everyone has opinion, I said mine

 

[knight26]

My current project is improving my previous campaign and making it a bit more tie in with this one. I'm also thinking about perhaps making an orc campaign after I finish improving the blood elven one.

Well thats good news for me, because I haven't yet played the blood elven one, and if you are to improve it, I'll wait a little while . (if its not much bother, vm me on the improved release).
Well it would be interesting to play the orcs with Thrall gone, I can only assume Garosh will lead the horde against the humans, and whats better than a human vs orcs struggle. :3 Still, I'd like to see some night elves and naga in action as well.

 

[ga_xjnk]

Little bugs

(I play with war3 1.24e version) I'm sorry if my comment is long but i like this campaign and Rise of the Blood Elf, too
- italic mini lines are in history, so
DON'T READ MY POST IF YOU HAVEN'T FINISHED THIS CAMPAIGN YET, PLEASE. THANK YOU

(1) Bugs:
♣ Colour of army sometimes becomes colour of enemy's army. (only colour)

♣ Good history (when rarebody know about the future of Lich King) but it may be an easy campaign map. I finished by a day

♣ Chapter Alone in Darkness, i think it's not logic. Azjol' (Anub') is stupid, isnt him? (or me :-SS )

♣ Chapter Fall of LichKing... lol, i only need attack (Phaelynne and Varimathras) or (Bronjahm and Fjola Lightbane with Eydis Darkbane) to open ONE door. After that, i send the scout hawk move to Frostmourne -> cinema -> 4 heroes are at Frostmourne (one door is opened and one door still closes). Surely, non-hero (army) can not move to Frostmourne but i'm sure i can defeat the LichKing without them. (Move to FrozenThrone, enemy creeps fear it and they don't move to it to attack heroes. Only use Hawk, Queen's Banshees, Avatar of Vengeance and Elementals to attack enemy. Last, i've father of LichKing, lol)

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(2) Others:
♣ Chapter Fall of LichKing, too. The Crowd (item) behind Frozen Throne can not be taken, can it?
About frozen army, i like it so much. I'm really suprised

♣ About Phaelynne's pet. I like Imp more than Voidwalker or Succubus. Can you edit: all of them is called by that spell with lesser damage and hps (eg: lvl1_imp, lvl2_imp and Voidwalker, lvl3_all of them). I say(type) that because anti-magic of Banshee or Dispel of Priest is better than Abolish Magic of Succubus, i think so. No problem with voidwalker's taunt but imp's firebolt is good, too.

♣ Some heroes should be invulnerable for the cinema because we have flyings, they can kill the secret heroes of history
_Eg: Varimathras and Phaelynne at the chapter Hour of the Forsaker
or the image of Varimathras (voice to only Phaelynne but i can use Sylvanas attack it)
or Phaelynne's Death at last chapter...

♣ Worgen, he's killed before his lvl is 6 can you bonus a map to him and his army, i wish i can play with them ♥

♣ Chapter Might of the Forsaken, if you dont attack the first (sight) Demonic Portal, Varimathras won't attack you, and it's very easy to finish this chapter. Lucky for me, i didnt see minimap and i found the way to Varimathras and killed him before destroy any portals.
To edit, you should create the invulnerable trees/ stone to the way to other
portals when player hasn't destroy the first (sight) portal. After cinema of Varimathras, invulnerable things will be destroyed or become avaiable to destroy

♣ I'm sorry because I typed this campaign is easy. Dont think about it, please. Surely, i finished it without cheats but i didn't play as your quests. It's only my exp in campaign maps, i attacked enemy army and towers but i didn't destroy their main buildings. So, enemy dont attack me as your code i build Haunt GoldMine beside enemy's building (eg: at the first chapter) and do your quests with much gold and wood. If you can use limit time for some map, it's really excellent campaign.
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Thanks for reading
You're a good map creator, i think you can edit them
I'll play this campaign again now with war3 1.26 version, if i find more bugs, i'll reply more

Last, my English is not good, sorry

 

[jlin629]

Yes

Finally another campaign
TIME TO BURY MYSELF IN WARCRAFT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!

 

[Xonok]

To anyone who had a bug in the last chapter where all units except Sylvanas froze, could you tell me when exactly it happened?

It happened when phaelynne died. After the cinematic that followed it the map was spammed with special effects(divine shield) and most units were paused. (I assume the units that weren't paused were either created or unpaused later)

 

[Arthas_the_Mad]

in the orc campaign do you plan to continue the story about the evolution of the horde after thrall? i mean do you plan to make a campaign about thrall's succesor's and his war against the alliance?

 

[tomoraider]

It happened when phaelynne died. After the cinematic that followed it the map was spammed with special effects(divine shield) and most units were paused. (I assume the units that weren't paused were either created or unpaused later)

Thank you, I'll see if I can find out what happens.

in the orc campaign do you plan to continue the story about the evolution of the horde after thrall? i mean do you plan to make a campaign about thrall's succesor's and his war against the alliance?

Something like that, yeah. Haven't thought much about it.

 

[Xonok]

Thank you, I'll see if I can find out what happens.



Something like that, yeah. Haven't thought much about it.

One more note. Occasionally I cheated, because I just refuse to try the same mission for many times in a row. Try what happens if phaelynne gets killed with a single hit. Maybe it breaks something.

 

[tomoraider]

One more note. Occasionally I cheated, because I just refuse to try the same mission for many times in a row. Try what happens if phaelynne gets killed with a single hit. Maybe it breaks something.

Oh, thank you, that was it. I just tested the fight multiple times, and that bug didnt happen to me once. But when I tried with cheats, as you suggested, it happened, because all the triggers ran at once and it basically broke.

EDIT: So, it's not a bug actually.

 

[Xonok]

Oh, thank you, that was it. I just tested the fight multiple times, and that bug didnt happen to me once. But when I tried with cheats, as you suggested, it happened, because all the triggers ran at once and it basically broke.

EDIT: So, it's not a bug actually.

Well, I guess it would still be a good practice to prevent it somehow(I don't know how, I haven't seen the actual triggers).

I hope there was a softer power cheat than whosyourdaddy... Basically cheating removes all fun for me, but sometimes I see no other way. I don't have as much time as I would wish to have.

 

[tomoraider]

Well, I guess it would still be a good practice to prevent it somehow(I don't know how, I haven't seen the actual triggers).

I hope there was a soften power cheat than whosyourdaddy... Basically cheating removes all fun for me, but sometimes I see no other way. I don't have as much time as I would wish to have.

Yeah, I'll add triggers that it fixes itself, it's simple.

Thanks again for helping me figure this out

 

[Xonok]

Yeah, I'll add triggers that it fixes itself, it's simple.

Thanks again for helping me figure this out

You're welcome. If you wish I can go over the whole campaign again and take notes this time. Last time I didn't really remember even half of the things that disturbed me.
I only offer this because you're a nice mapper(accepting critique).

 

[tomoraider]

You're welcome. If you wish I can go over the whole campaign again and take notes this time. Last time I didn't really remember even half of the things that disturbed me.
I only offer this because you're a nice mapper(accepting critique).

It's not necessary, but if you really want, it would be nice.

Just added triggers that the map is still playable even if you cheat at that part.

 

[Xonok]

It's not necessary, but if you really want, it would be nice.

Just added triggers that the map is still playable even if you cheat at that part.

Alright, expect a long review tomorrow.