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(Closed) Orc Sub-Hero(es)

Discussion in 'The 2 Player Campaign' started by TheSpoon, Aug 16, 2010.

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  1. takakenji

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    huh? i was giving a suggestion for the bonus level
     
  2. TheSpoon

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    No need to do a vote, I think I already know you're all against me.

    Its just that maps like O2 were what gave me the idea to do the 2 player campaign.
    In fact it was actually O3 that did just this.
    I was playing it and thought "I wonder if I could change the other base so that it could be controlled by another player, that sure would make the campaign more fun"
    So of course my original intention when I reached these levels was to make them all like that.
     
  3. barowei

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    About difficulty - come on TheSpoon - isn't adding additional hero in all scenarios, where just one appeared making gameplay too easy? I remind you, that was the reason (or at least one of the reasons) of adding insane difficulty. And I agree with McQvaBlood in every part, as does my friend, with which I play this;]
    Ah, I tried this on the hard difficulty - indeed that wasn't easy...
    EDIT:
    Oh, yes, I begin to writing it right after i have seen McQvaBlood's post so didn't see next repliesxP
     
  4. McQvaBlood

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    If that was your intention than who are we to tell you not to do it.
    You can be sure that we will play the maps, no matter what you decide on in the end. And even if we think it could have been done better, it's really you who's spending far the most time doing these campaigns.

    As for O2, it's just that Cairne (I think.) will be a bit boring compared to a whole new hero, Nazgrel.
    As for O3, I don't say that you shouldn't enable Grom, but you know that there is the inventory problem.

    It's very important that you do enjoy making these maps. The easiest way for this project to fail is when you no longer think redoing these maps is fun.
     
  5. TheSpoon

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    Nah, this is much more interesting XD
    You're right, it is MY decision.
    All of your views are welcome though.. and I do listen!
    Even if I seen a bit nasty sometimes.
     
  6. takakenji

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    i vote for my suggestion because it was super bester
     
  7. Tsfun

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    In my opinion the heroes should be like this
    Chp1-P1 Thrall -P2 Nazgrel
    Chp2-P1 Thrall -P2 Cairne (though I'm not opposed to nazgrel as having him lvl 2 on mission 4 seems a little mean to me)
    Chp3-P1 Thrall -P2 Grom
    Chp4-P1 Grom -P2 Nazgrel
    Chp5-P1 Grom -P2 Nazgrel
    Chp6-P1 Thrall -P2 Cairne
    Chp7-P1 Thrall -P2 Cairne
    Chp8-P1 Thrall and Cairne -P2 Jaina (I would prefer this)
    OR
    Chp8-P1 Thrall -P2 Cairne -P3/AI Jaina

    IF Grom is P2 in Chp3 his Lvl should be lowered to either 2 or 3
    IF Jaina is P2/P3 in Chp 8 her lvl should also be lowered to 8 (not any lower)
    and on Chp 4 maybe shared lumber resources?

    Anyway that's just my opinion its always up to the spoon to decide
     
  8. TheSpoon

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    Super bester xD

    Well I've taken all your arguements and come to the conclusion.

    This is how it will roll:
    - O1 - Thrall & Nazgrel THEN Thrall & Cairne
    - O2 - Thrall & Cairne
    - O3 - Thrall & Nazgrel (Grom possibly controlled by a 3rd player)
    - O4 - Grom & Nazgrel
    - O5 - Grom & Nazgrel
    - O6 - Thrall & Cairne
    - O7 - Thrall & Cairne
    - O8 - Thrall & Cairne (Jaina possibly controlled by a 3rd player)

    As you guys will have noticed, I'm also planning on making Cairne playable at the end of O1, and Nazgrel will pause. A lot like Falric does in H7.
    (Cairne's level will probably be lowered)

    And unless there are any new points to be made I do not wish to discuss the matter further.

    Now perhaps we should return to the original topic of this thread?
    Although I am still interested in your opinions of the 3rd player.
     
  9. McQvaBlood

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    Well... I don't know, it would be kind of strange to get a random new player for just one scenario.
    This probably would not be a problem for me, as I play the campaigns with two different players so I would only have to find an hour of time where all three of us are free.
     
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    McQva if I'm not mistaken (i hope so) 3rd player is just an alternative and it won't have saved inventory or anything (it may cause some problems anyway). I would like to still have possibility to play it w/o 3rd player.
    Back on original topic - you didn't comment my ulti idea TheSpoon:< Imo that doesn't really outshine Grom's Bladestorm (it won't be compared to Earthquake anyway...) and that's nice helpful (but situational - usually the best to use on the middle of battle) skill.
     
  11. takakenji

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    what about my bonus level suggestion?
     
  12. McQvaBlood

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    He already kind of accepted that.
     
  13. takakenji

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    cool, now i can brag to all my friends herp derp
     
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    3rd player would be awesome. I also play this map with 2 different players. I think that every opportunity to add an optional 3rd player should be seized.
     
  15. TheSpoon

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    Barowei yours was the one that used corpses for regen? Sounds cool : >
    I've already added to my list of possible ones, but I was kinda looking for something 'new', not just healing or damaging.
     
  16. barowei

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    Well, I totally agree with you - that's why that adds ARMOR and regen:>
    Ok, talking serious I thought it would be nice and simple, but maybe you're right... I'll think about it.
     
  17. My_Face_Burns

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    How about Nazgrel having a spell that enables him to switch from Shaman to Raider? This would solve the problem of what model he'll be having. I also agree with those who said he should become a Warlock after becoming a Fel Orc instead of having a custom skin and remaining a Shaman, because like someone said earlier, you lose your link with the spirits which is what enables you to be a Shaman, plus most of the models look pretty bad. Finally, when Nazgrel becomes a Fel Orc and goes into Raider form if you go along with this idea or if you don't but have him as a Raider he should just take the model of a Fel Orc Raider, if they exist (I cant remember!), if they don't then I think you'll have to find a custom model for him.
     
  18. JokeMaster

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    Maybe instead using Nazgrel by Hellscream use Iskar he would fit and be a magic (intelect) hero.
     
  19. My_Face_Burns

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    Well, hardly anyone knows who Iskar is and he is Grom's adviser so what the hell would he be doing with Thrall?
     
  20. JokeMaster

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    No ,no i mean to use him in the missions with hellscream, not with Thrall.
     
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