Arkain Alignment Chart

[Shar Dundred]

So, @Kasrkin and I sat down and did an alignment chart for the characters of Arkain - you can see it here!
Share your thoughts - and feel free to edit it to make your own chart!

Here you go, our version of the AAC - feel free to make changes, these are based on our "current" feeling regarding the characters.
Characters that haven't really had much screentime yet are excluded.

PS: For the Dreadlords since their portraits are so similar:
Kersidar is in neutral evil, Largoth is next to Rahandir.
Ornasion is in his "living form" in chaotic neutral. It counts for his undead form ofc.

 

[Morris]

I gotta replay the whole campaign to remember everything but I totally agree on Sasrogan without a doubt

 

[DD Mikasa]

I mean I aint trying to start shit, but I am...Wouldn't King Dorte be considered true neutral? Homeboy didn't gave a shit about anything but only his own backyard?

Lord Redfist isn't pissed he is just deeply depressed by the fact that he is surrounded by failures he himself helped bring to life.

Amari its a puppet of Brian she can fit everywhere on the chart should have put her near her brother on her own category the category of puppets.

AND... Cmon does flesh tearer really possess enough IQ to even be considered sentient....

 

[trycex]

Logan (I suppose the captain icon) should be chaotic good, he go against the norm(chaotic/hate the orcs) for the greater good.

Brian looks more benevolent being that others, maybe neutral good?

Spoiler

The generals in true neutral maybe are the one who stay out of the coming conflict

 

[Shar Dundred]

Logan (I suppose the captain icon) should be chaotic good, he go against the norm(chaotic/hate the orcs) for the greater good.

That's Marin.

 

[Daffa]

One I will be agreeing at once will be Sasrogarn. Curious, how do we define "Lawful Good" and "Lawful Neutral" here?

 

[Shar Dundred]

Lawful Neutral isn't about being good, it is more about being more interested in one's duty
rather than doing something good. Following orders because they are orders, keeping promises because
it was a promise instead of thinking about whether it is the right thing to do.
Keep in mind btw that these alignments are not about whether or not the person is nice/likeable
but really just alignment behind their actions.

I am fairly certain that people who have a different point of view regarding alignment charts
will have much to disagree here - which is fine of course.
Alignment and its definition is something that is debateable and people are bound to have different
views there.

Also, that chart isn't final as it still misses a few people but doing this one took us two hours already.
I have added an "empty" alignment chart in the first post. Feel free to use that along with the
pictures from the Character Sheet (or ingame pictures if a character you see here is missing etc).
But be sure to share it here!

 

[Championfighter25]

I'd place all undead characters in Neutral Evil. Regardless of what they actually intend to do and what they're meant to symbolize, Aridon ultimately has ultimate control over them and dictates everything they do.

I'm inclined to say that Harmos almost belongs in Lawful Good, though it would be better to wait for the post-second books story to see if he would indeed be a proper fit.

Blen, depending on how you see him could be technically considered Lawfully Good.

As Mikasa said, Dorten is pretty much True Neutral.
He cares for the safety of his kingdom and its citizens first and foremost, then of the continent.

I personally think Brian, Gardon and Vail are Chaotic Good.
They follow their own conscience and moral system with little care what others think about it.
While Gardon and Vail specifically impose stuff without asking, they have their faction's best interests in mind, not theirs specifically.

Not sure about Amari. While it's hinted that she wouldn't mind more power, she seems to act rather selflessly, always in her faction's best interest and would be a better fit for Chaotic Good imo.
Keeping in mind her wish for more power, boldness, ambitiousness and questioning and change for a lot of traditions, it wouldn't be wrong to also put her into Chaotic Neutral.

Zairmak is a tough one.
I think he acts first and foremost for his and his clan's interest.
By the end of the SOB, he seemed to have changed a lot and shifted, depending on how you see it to Chaotic Good or even True Neutral (though that may be a bit of a stretch)

Realistically, obviously they're pissed off, but Volarian and Largoth can be good candidates for Chaotic Evil.
Sasrogarn probably too, though his current positioning is so undisputable it just feels weird to even discuss it.

 

[r.ace613]

Tbh, why is Amari considered neutral evil? Wouldn't she be in the same spot as Brian? Seeing Okri and Zairmak in neutral evil is also kinda surprising tbh, considering how Okri follows Amari, while Zairmak follows Rangul(Up to second book, but his attitude in the first Orc book does seemed a little evil)

Am I just stupid or why is Gardon considered lawful evil? His methods are questionable as hell but wouldn't that make him chaotic good tho?

EDOT: Is Sir Lerrig in the neutral good alignment? There seems to be another similar looking guy in the lawful neutral alignment

 

[Shar Dundred]

First of, I would like to empathize that this alignment chart is something that @Kasrkin and I worked out together.
That doesn't make it "the unquestionable truth of 100% alignment" neither does it mean that I will now change
things or personalities just to fit the chart.
I doubt there was any fear regarding that, I just wanted to point it out before we gave any room for suspicions like that.

Of course, there is absolutely zero wrong with disagreeing here.

Am I just stupid or why is Gardon considered lawful evil? His methods are questionable as hell but wouldn't that make him chaotic good tho?

His goals are not evil or selfish, but his methods are what put him to LE for us.
He doesn't hesitate to sacrifice soldiers - he doesn't waste them or use them to save himself or anything but he does what he does.
Also there's this thing with his amulets...

EDOT: Is Sir Lerrig in the neutral good alignment? There seems to be another similar looking guy in the lawful neutral alignment

Lerrig is in Lawful Neutral. Neutral Good is Toraes.

 

[Mvicio]

How can the Fleshtearer be in the chart? He hasn´t talk even once so we know nothing about his alignment.
I think both Aedale (not demon one) should be lawful neutral.
Haran being neutral good... i suppose the alive Haran.
Lerrig follow his orders but then he left during the orc invasion just to fight for Genethas, so i would put him in True neutral.
Maybe Okri should be true neutral.
All 3 of the chaotic good ladies want the best for his race, using the war as a tool. Shouldn´t Kersidar be the same? Since Ebira´s goals are undetermined yet.

Volarian and Largoth really are pissed of as fuck, but i would put Rahandir in chaotic evil, he is not more pissed than Galareth or Retka.

 

[DD Mikasa]

One I will be agreeing at once will be Sasrogarn. Curious, how do we define "Lawful Good" and "Lawful Neutral" here?

I know Shar explained it but a pretty good Lawful Neutral character if you still are having trouble understanding the alignment would most likely be the Golden axe mercenaries and Darric and his boys, they follow the orders through and through setting aside their moral stigmas.

Shar WE DEMAND ANSWERS ABOUT FLESHTEARER alignment!


Ehm Salana is a bit ambiguous when it comes to her alignment but I think she Falls within the Neutral good rather than chaotic good, She trusts and follows the queens orders only at very desperate times does she look for other means, she clearly disapproved of the tainted magic gardon's lackies used on the tree spirits (which I think helps her stand out from a chaotic good alignment such such as Kora)

As for the Vail part I honestly don't think she falls within the the evil alignment at all. at best id put her either as a chaotic or neutral good, IT wasn't her idea to bring back the empire of her forefathers, it was Gardon, she agreed to it in hopes of actually preserving the continent from becoming a total shit fest, but maybe I am forgetting something.

 

[LISBOAH]

I will give my opinion regarding Sha's alignment chart

For me van Durce (as well as his fellow Golden Guard) is more close to Lawful Neutral than Lawful Good. They were more concerned with serving the Emperor's orders than the greater good. They only decided to depose him after he apparently abandoned them.
In fact, I think van Durce and Greymoore should switch positions.

Aridon to me is Lawful Evil. He is obsessed with his idea of balance and his desire to protect Arkain and all he does is with those goals in mind, even if his memories and way of thinking are twisted.
His loyal followers, such as Krom, the Bonelords and Rahandir also fit on this since they are truly loyal to him and/or are bound to his will. If they were Neutral Evil, they would do so simply because it was convenient for them and wouldn't hesitate in leaving their master if another offered them a better offer.

Genethas is Neutral Evil. He joined the demons and betrayed his own people in pursuit of power, but at the same time he leads an organized army of people just like him. He follows the demons, but mostly due to their offers of survival and gaining more power. He also has no problem in working inside the law, even if only on the surface, to help tear the Imperial defenses apart from the inside.

How exactly are Amari and Okri Neutral Evil? They want a better future for not only the orcs but the other races as well, which is a Lawful thing to do. They might do some nasty stuff, but they don't go out of their way to harm innocents unlike the rest of the orcs, so them being considered Evil seems to be an exaggeration. To me, they are, at their worst, True Neutral.

 

[Shar Dundred]

I have attached a file with all pictures in jpg format to the first post - now you have the same
tools to create the chart that I did in the first post.
Now I wanna see some actual charts!

 

[Karmondia]

My alignment chart: (Some people are missing, but I couldn't decide where to place them)

 

[Stalker98]

My alignment chart: (Some people are missing, but I couldn't decide where to place them)View attachment 389268

Mostly agree with this btw in neutral evil is that Dorten or Retka.

 

[Shar Dundred]

That's Retka.

 

[Ebanu8]

Zoia and Gardon are definitely Lawful Evil.

 

[Vindicator777]

Destroyer should be lawful good

 

[Shar Dundred]

If he was on the chart I think I'd put him onto True Neutral or Chaotic Neutral. Maybe the latter.
But I haven't really spent much thought onto it so that opinion is just a snapshot.

 

[Deleted member 304046]

Though I won't be spending much time at Hive anymore (only coming here to visit as a Guest and not as an user) and I find committing myself to the site to be rather vexing and draining, I decided to post my version of Arkain Aligment Chart, if only to kill some time before I leave.