W3U Hero Defense 1.03

[Moderator]

17:17, 8th Mar 2010
ap0calypse: Approved

 

[Zerox]

I'm the bad guy. No but really its an enjoyable map that I've played many times. Its got quite the array of custom spells and items. My favorite has to be the portable falcon punch. Its just awesome. Great for bosses too. Its not perfect but perfection doesn't make a map. All that matters is that you have fun. I hope everyone else can enjoy it as well.

 

[Hubcool]

I'm not there D:

 

[Tau Empire]

Ya you are Hub your just a bad guy summon lol.

 

[VampireofBlood]

No offence agaisnt you, but the map needs fix if it should not be rejected.
It has 4.87mb, so it cant be hosted on bnet.

 

[vic1300]

No offence agaisnt you, but the map needs fix if it should not be rejected.
It has 4.87mb, so it cant be hosted on bnet.

you could update to 1.24a to use the map though.. it increases the map hosting size to 8mb

 

[VampireofBlood]

might be, but 4.87mb are to much anyway

 

[Zack1996]

No offence agaisnt you, but the map needs fix if it should not be rejected.
It has 4.87mb, so it cant be hosted on bnet.

It is 3.13mb below the new limit of 8Mb. Unless you haven't downloaded the new patch, which says a lot about you playing B.Net -_-

Anyway, a fine map. Seems ok throughout the game. The green haze was the one I played. A fairly ok hero with a variety of trigerred spells. Although I can't say they were awesome, I have to agree that it is rather suffice.

I can't really give it a good rating, since terrain is lacking (I don't really care much about that, just saying), tooltips have some problems (like caps) and the Green Haze has an Ultimate which is weaker than Shock Tri-Wave, which is impossibly strong. I'll hold my vote and see what you do about this.

BTW, why do the units have to fall back, its kinda weird when I'm pushing all the way to the enemy towers and they decide to fall back. I guess its for the additional lane, so whatever.

Good luck.

PS: I could help with the Killboard if you want.

 

[f0rsAk3n]

Use optimizers and remove a few uneeded models. Especially big ones.

Downloading...

Edit:

On the + side:
Custom Models.

On the - side:
Spell buttons miss placed.
Green icons.
BIG
Dry, boring, terrain.
Lack of proper description.
Spell descriptions are boring and don't always include what levels up.
Map is not taken seriously.
Hero themes are ridiculous.
Loads...& Loads...of trigger leaks.
Blizzard Cliffs, use walls or terrain manipulating instead.

I'll with hold my rating until this is out of beta stage. Good luck =P.

 

[VampireofBlood]

It is 3.13mb below the new limit of 8Mb. Unless you haven't downloaded the new patch, which says a lot about you playing B.Net -_-

Anyway, a fine map. Seems ok throughout the game. The green haze was the one I played. A fairly ok hero with a variety of trigerred spells. Although I can't say they were awesome, I have to agree that it is rather suffice.

I can't really give it a good rating, since terrain is lacking (I don't really care much about that, just saying), tooltips have some problems (like caps) and the Green Haze has an Ultimate which is weaker than Shock Tri-Wave, which is impossibly strong. I'll hold my vote and see what you do about this.

BTW, why do the units have to fall back, its kinda weird when I'm pushing all the way to the enemy towers and they decide to fall back. I guess its for the additional lane, so whatever.

Good luck.

PS: I could help with the Killboard if you want.

I have the newest Patch, but 4.87mb is too large, even if the new headline is 8mb.
Just understand it damn.

 

[Pharaoh_]

Vampire, enough of that. 4.87 mb exceeds the previous limit by .87 mb, what will you say when 8mb maps are going to be hosted? They haven't, because it's too soon to create such map, but when they do, ignorance won't be your first reason.

 

[Tau Empire]

Use optimizers and remove a few uneeded models. Especially big ones.

Downloading...

Edit:

On the + side:
Custom Models.

On the - side:
Spell buttons miss placed.
Green icons.
BIG
Dry, boring, terrain.
Lack of proper description.
Spell descriptions are boring and don't always include what levels up.
Map is not taken seriously.
Hero themes are ridiculous.
Loads...& Loads...of trigger leaks.
Blizzard Cliffs, use walls or terrain manipulating instead.

I'll with hold my rating until this is out of beta stage. Good luck =P.

Aww you didn't place my surprise as a good point lol, but what's the BIG part about?

 

[f0rsAk3n]

hehe, by big i meant the filesize

 

[Tau Empire]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO lol, well I'm not sure I could always stick with 1 music but it wouldn't be a ''surprise'' when my ''surprise'' come if you know what I mean?

 

[f0rsAk3n]

hmmmm, try using This. Create a copy of your map first though.

 

[Tau Empire]

hmmmm, try using This. Create a copy of your map first though.

Nah, I've made a policy for how my map works and it will always be unprotected for the people to learn, I've made sure the triggers are simple for even the newbish of people would get it. If it some odd reason is protected it's not my version, and will probably be removed from the site.

 

[Zerox]

Nah, I've made a policy for how my map works and it will always be unprotected for the people to learn, I've made sure the triggers are simple for even the newbish of people would get it. If it some odd reason is protected it's not my version, and will probably be removed from the site.

Some protect it to kill file size. But if you did that you could always have a place you could still let people get the unprotected version.

 

[Reaper51]

Good effort 4/5, very fun map. Watch out for Green DISBTN's and the HUGE 4.87mb file size. Try deleting portraits that take a lot of kb!

 

[Tau Empire]

Ya sorry about those green DISBTN's and the tell you the truth the filesize could actually be lower than that you see people filled out a application to be on that map, and they wished for a model to present him or her in the map. There is I think 5 un used models in that map that I could remove but forgot to, since I never finished there heroes (complex GUI spells.) If I removed all the useless ones I think the map size would be around 3.5 MB

 

[Zerox]

Ya sorry about those green DISBTN's and the tell you the truth the filesize could actually be lower than that you see people filled out a application to be on that map, and they wished for a model to present him or her in the map. There is I think 5 un used models in that map that I could remove but forgot to, since I never finished there heroes (complex GUI spells.) If I removed all the useless ones I think the map size would be around 3.5 MB

Who's heroes would that be?

 

[Hubcool]

I could fix that stuff (green disbtn, kill alot of filesize, etc) Shinra, if you don't have time/don't wanna do it.

 

[Tau Empire]

O no I've killed alot of filesize space in 1.03 after using the new sound editor, plus I removed those unused models.

There where

Conny's application - he wanted his Sephiroth (the one he merged a lot of things together.) Conny models are great but there always high file size lol.
Kimphoe's application - he wanted a Marine model, so I removed that.

As far as green DISBTN icons, I think there fixed don't remember, plus there is DvO's Shit model that I've replaced it with Zerox's Great Mighty Poo model, that I had thank her a millions times over and over for it lol.

 

[FrozenFenrir]

sorry, but this map is just a bad spinoff of EotA:Exodus D=

-youve taken the terrain, edited it here and there (the base is edited alot...but...in a bad way =/ ) u didnt even mentioned in the credits (you could have AT LEAST said its based on it...)(you should actually make a credit list or this map violates the hive rules!"

-some skill descriptions make no sense (for example: vincent. his autocast spell... the tooltips say it always does 40 dmg but its CD decreases by one per level...i mean...hello? THE CD IS ALREADY AT 0 )
besides that, the skills arent that original (as far as i can see only edited wc3 standard skills)

-some DISBTNs are green and the filesize is just way too big (ever tried to host a game with a map bigger than 4mb???its almost impossible, even with that new limit)
i just cant give a high rating for this thing =/

2/5 (and a vote for rejected if u dont mention eota:exodus in the credits!)

 

[ap0calypse]

Although the terrains do look a lot like eachother, I believe Tau Empire on this: Ham Ham isn't the first person I would accuse of stealing.
Of course: I can be mistaken, but there is no actual proof that he stole the terrain or not (if you look at DotA spin-offs / footy spin-offs, you notice that the terrains are very similar as well, though that doesn't necessarily mean they stole the terrain).

Well, my decision stands - unless anyone can give some groundbreaking proof that the terrain is indeed edited from eota.

[Thread Cleaned]

 

[Zerox]

Maybe I'm a bit late here but I'll post anyway.

@FrozenFenrir I play this may pretty often and I've seen it since it was first in development. I've seen very early versions of this where the terrain was absolutely terrible (no offense ShinraCorp) but the basic idea was there with the enemy being at the top and the base being at the bottom. Slowly through many alpha versions shops emerged on the left and the whole river/bridge concept came to exist. But this was only after many suggestions by users of WC3 Unlimited.

The terrain in it's very basic layout is somewhat similiar I'll give you that. But it wasn't by any means taken from this other map. I hadn't even heard of EotA:Exodus before your post here. It's possible that users of WC3 Unlimited may have played it and gave suggestions that gave a somewhat similar outcome. But really if he was trying to hide anything I'd imagine he wouldn't of left the map unprotected.

The map may not be the best out there but it is his own work.

 

[sinder583]

why does player red have a lvl 50 hero at the start??

witch also lets you get 2 hero's lvl 1...

 

[Tau Empire]

It's about time someone told me that bug and here's why I forgot to place him Neutral Passive he was meant to be lvl 50 but not player Red controlled.

 

[sinder583]

lol,

i was going to play it with my brother but tested it first and was like WTF,

lol,

 

[Tau Empire]

Well atleast you really can't use him since I placed boundaries around him lol. Anywho once I get the time I'll upload the fix version with some extras stuff and other fixes.

 

[stefanswe]

I'm the bad guy. No but really its an enjoyable map that I've played many times. Its got quite the array of custom spells and items. My favorite has to be the portable falcon punch. Its just awesome. Great for bosses too. Its not perfect but perfection doesn't make a map. All that matters is that you have fun. I hope everyone else can enjoy it as well.

well it was awsome but i get some bugs with this map that suddenly dark miku and l4d tank and adept of throne they dissapears

 

[stefanswe]

and by the way can i get does models so i can import em to another map i have made?