12:46, 16th Jun 2008
Septimus:

Good Point

[+]

Bad Point

[-] Lumber and food icon missing.
[-] Some item had unreasonable price (For example : Spiked Collar)
[-] Terrain was nightmare.
[-] Seem to had no mission objective.
[-] Not even 1 creep drop item at all.
[-] Some skill had unclear description.
[-] Seem to had no ending at all.

Overall - 1/5
Rejected

Reason of rejection : There is no mission objective at all and those creep had been put in a mass amount, rendering the hero keep dying trying to kill it although the reviving seem to be infinite.

I am sorry to reject it, but please make a major improvement in fixing all those error in your map. Your cooperation is needed, thank you.

The map was lacking... a lot.
1. The terrain was horrific. I mean, no height variation, terrain variation, no different trees in areas.... no doodads practically....

2. There's no clear point to the game. It's kill things and get strong, which I guess is like WoW...

3. Barely any triggers. What, 2 respawn ones and that's it? Maybe use some spell triggers, could most defenitely use some quests.

I assume you don't know this stuff, which is okay I guess. Just try to keep working on making a game do more than just kill random mobs. But you did do nicely on making the character's feel wow-ish.

well like i said on the description this is my first map so this was the kind of post i was expecting.
as you can see i diddent put much time i the terrain and and stuff mostly because i diddent even expect to get this far into the creation of the map. I know very little about triggers so i tried to stay as far away from them as possible by only putting in respawn triggers that i diddent even make myself(i had a friend make it.)
Thank you for the feedback and for likeing my heroes

Good Point

[+]

Bad Point

[-] Lumber and food icon missing.
[-] Some item had unreasonable price (For example : Spiked Collar)
[-] Terrain was nightmare.
[-] Seem to had no mission objective.
[-] Not even 1 creep drop item at all.
[-] Some skill had unclear description.
[-] Seem to had no ending at all.

Overall - 1/5
Rejected

My comment : Trigger is not as complicated as it seem to be, if you had trouble with trigger. You should had go to forum and ask people on how to do develop it, you might had put effort into your map. But, it is not enough and it is not good enough for it.

I had seen a map created by newbie that are nicely develop and it took him 3 months to did it. I was wondering how long it took you to make such a map, based on such a terrain and creep. It seem it only took you 20-60 hours to get it done.

i dont really know how long it took me but it was probebly around 20-60 hours like you said

I think Septimus is maybe being a little unfair to you. While it has to be said this map is fairly horrific, if it is your first you can only go up from here. As Septimus says, check out the forums for some triggering ideas, or PM me - I'm very happy to go through some triggers with you.

froolow said:

I think Septimus is maybe being a little unfair to you. While it has to be said this map is fairly horrific, if it is your first you can only go up from here. As Septimus says, check out the forums for some triggering ideas, or PM me - I'm very happy to go through some triggers with you.

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Well, that is because I am strict when it comes into judging a map. To be honest, there is many map creator that did a good job in their 1st map. This is because they had put a lot of effort into it and willing to learn all those trigger.

Actually, I don't think this map had the possibilities of consuming 20-60 hours of your time. It could had possibly lesser than that.

Those who usually 1st timer when it comes to map making should had try to develop melee map instead of non-melee such as rpg, aos and etc etc as to learn the basic of it before trying for much advance set up...