Sneak on Zul'Sarthar - Episode3

Shadow Fury · Jul 5, 2016

Wasn't this uploaded long ago?

I have it in my directory.

Kenshi1007 · Jul 5, 2016

Shadow Fury said:
Wasn't this uploaded long ago? I have it in my directory.

Nah, this is a new one, this is the redesign of the third one.

Deleted member 247165 · Jul 7, 2016

Was very enjoyable and also your terrain is very well made. 5/5 from me.

Cokemonkey11 · Jul 13, 2016

I've played this map for the last couple hour and, I think I've made it nearly to the end (but eventually I found a game-breaking bug and couldn't continue).

Here is an album of feedback:

https://imgur.com/a/csuvv

And, attached is the replay of my experience for completeness.

Kenshi1007 · Jul 13, 2016

Cokemonkey11 said:
I've played this map for the last couple hour and, I think I've made it nearly to the end (but eventually I found a game-breaking bug and couldn't continue).

Here is an album of feedback:

https://imgur.com/a/csuvv

And, attached is the replay of my experience for completeness.

Issues will be fixed in time. Thank you for your attention.

Alok · Jul 15, 2016

Played the map some time, really enjoyed it.
I have some some bugs to report and some suggestions:
- Thirst of Mana icon turns green when you go to the menu, it needs the corresponding disabled icon
- Coral Altar and Watcher have wrong build/train tooltips
- One interface message says "Build more Burrows" instead of "Build more Supply Tents"
- I suggest reducing the build time of some buildings, or at least the first main building built in the base to reduce wait times, and making the enemy troops build troops and attack your base more

Kenshi1007 · Jul 15, 2016

Alok said:
Played the map some time, really enjoyed it.
I have some some bugs to report and some suggestions:
- Thirst of Mana icon turns green when you go to the menu, it needs the corresponding disabled icon
- Coral Altar and Watcher have wrong build/train tooltips
- One interface message says "Build more Burrows" instead of "Build more Supply Tents"
- I suggest reducing the build time of some buildings, or at least the first main building built in the base to reduce wait times, and making the enemy troops build troops and attack your base more

Issues will be fixed as soon as possible.

I might reduce main building building time, as for units attacks i am low experienced on that kind of stuff but i will manage to improve those things. Thank you for the report, please Rate and Rep. Dont forget to play my previous episodes!

Alok · Jul 15, 2016

Repped, but I can't rate since I haven't played it until the end.

Rufus · Aug 28, 2016

To be honest, I didn't play much of it.
The small part I played however was really nice. This is clearly a high quality map!
The reason I didn't play too much of it was because I didn't wanna spoil anything, since I intend to play all of it from the beginning instead.

The terrain is good. It is not spammed with doodads, still clearly creates an amazing atmosphere, and your choice of music made it all even better.
The charaters are not very advanced, which is good, since you get into the game really quickly. They also still feel powerful and useful.

Voice acting is always good, and you did a really good job here!

The flaws with this map is the filesize and the description.
The filesize I guess you can't do much about, since it is probably sound files thaking a lot of space. This can be reduced to half by an audio quality reducer. I did it to sounds in projects of my own and had no noticable difference in the sound, while reducing the filesize by 60%.

The description is informative, sure, but it is not very well structurized.
It felt like going into a wall of text, and I got tired just fromlooking at it. It is like a baleful charm preventing palyers from discovering the awesome map that is beyond.
I think that, with a little work, you can make the description way better. I would for starters suggest you reduce the size of those titles.

I will approve this map since I can see that this project is like a baby to you; you won't leave it untended, and will update it until it is perfect.
If I encounter any major, game-breaking bugs, I'll put it back to the submissions, but I doubt I'll find any.

Approved.

Kenshi1007 · Sep 3, 2016

Rufus said:
To be honest, I didn't play much of it.
The small part I played however was really nice. This is clearly a high quality map!
The reason I didn't play too much of it was because I didn't wanna spoil anything, since I intend to play all of it from the beginning instead.

The terrain is good. It is not spammed with doodads, still clearly creates an amazing atmosphere, and your choice of music made it all even better.
The charaters are not very advanced, which is good, since you get into the game really quickly. They also still feel powerful and useful.

Voice acting is always good, and you did a really good job here!

The flaws with this map is the filesize and the description.
The filesize I guess you can't do much about, since it is probably sound files thaking a lot of space. This can be reduced to half by an audio quality reducer. I did it to sounds in projects of my own and had no noticable difference in the sound, while reducing the filesize by 60%.

The description is informative, sure, but it is not very well structurized.
It felt like going into a wall of text, and I got tired just fromlooking at it. It is like a baleful charm preventing palyers from discovering the awesome map that is beyond.
I think that, with a little work, you can make the description way better. I would for starters suggest you reduce the size of those titles.

I will approve this map since I can see that this project is like a baby to you; you won't leave it untended, and will update it until it is perfect.
If I encounter any major, game-breaking bugs, I'll put it back to the submissions, but I doubt I'll find any.

Approved.

Thank you moderator! Really apreciated!

deepstrasz · Sep 18, 2016

A more than decent mix of melee and RPG but I'm afraid it's too long.

-Thirst of Mana doesn't have a DISBTN (a green square is shown during game pause)
-Arlon does not start with full mana
-how did they get there? Don't tell me by boats because it seems the whole place is surrounded by walls
-didn't know trolls had a writing system
-heroes selected during cinematic mode (troll totem scene)
-that Mana Burn sure is powerful, -600 on a voodoo giant
-Cosmic Bolt does not mention the duration of the stun or the damage it deals
-"Look over there. I can see the high priest." Well, the player can't
-oh man, blink spirit teleports the heroes and they can't get back

; wanted to explore everything first
-Ke'Chulo burns himself too

-steampunk trolls!? Magic technology?
-nothing bad actually happens if you fail to answer correctly; I've only chose one wrong answer
-Cyan Raiders look exactly like Spearthrowers
-idle worker's icon looks like a peon, maybe because of the portrait belonging to one of the heroes that looks like a peasant?
-Tide Fabricator and Coral Altar's build descriptions are the same
-Scale Workshop does not produce anything; I guess it was needed only to upgrade the main building
-Harpoon Towers have the Magic Sentry ability; where/how to research it?
-why train 5 Myrmidons when I already have 6? I guess it's because I've trained them before the quest was given
-the Coral Altar trains Coral Watchers not the Scale Workshop
-I don't know man, Fishing Post has 2k HP like the Fortified Camp
-could've been interesting having to find resources for an expansion somewhere else than almost two feet away
-the guardian communicating with Arlon seems to be using telepathy or shouting very loud
-the guardian giant has a small selection circle
-the food supplies text does not update in the log as well; it still keeps the 0/50 after a meat bulk is taken (at least at 40/50 on the screen); it however turns to 50/50 after all 5 meat pieces are gathered
-afterwards, Huok'Zureh has a "!" over his head and nothing happens when going to him; Shagga also has one
-I know building another base over the river is the logical thing but you could excuse the player from doing it again; I don't see however why would they not be able to use the food from the previous built tents and transport troops from the other barracks by boats; or at least the buildings for the other units like the archers...; at least the Reef Poison Arrows don't have to be researched again
-are Fishing Posts eternal? Just curios
-the sea giants on the shallow water near the protected resources are sleeping and the night doesn't seem to pass; however those near the water marble are not sleeping
-building a tower near the barrier will attract the trolls that will destroy it easily if not repaired with a lot of peasant; melee troops can't get to the trolls to defend the towers while the barrier is still on
-also, if one tower is destroyed while the barrier is still on it will still be counted as +1 after two are built
-Piercer's death sound is that of a elven (woman) archer
-Xerath is named Myrmidon in the transmission of the scene after the grey fort is destroyed
-fighting the water priest is way too easy; the battle lasts about a few seconds
-River Elemental's selection circle is somewhere high like it would be flying
-Dark Troll Axe thrower has a bigger damage than a Troll Warlord
-a gate behind the first voodoo guardian Arlon fights alone is named "Ruined Gate2"
-Xerath is named Myrmidon again and does not have a portrait when speaking; so doesn't Helix when they talk about the defensive base and water platforms
-check pathing (press P or activate it in the Edit options), blockers & (invisible) platforms at the highland fort of the greys as units can get up and down of walls (see attached picture)
-those revenants are unarmoured but they look pretty armoured
-there's a weird dark shield effect on some enemy soldiers (see attached pic)
-red pings on the map create confusion with those that appear when the player is attacked
-one of the marble mines belongs to the greys instead of being neutral like the others; the one north and a bit west of the starting base; the one in the last enemy base
-Helix and Xerath haven't made an appearance for some time now but they still talked as if they were there and Shagga talked to Helix's ghost or invisible hologram
-the second forcefield generator that Go'Dal has to destroy is not defended; he repeated the same line he said when destroying the first generator
-tough luck if Shagga and the two elite teleport towards where Arlon remained in front of a big gate in the great bazaar (see pictures)
-Jorlum returns after Shagga orders him to go somewhere after dispatching Xerath the invisible/absent
-the troll sage still has a "!" over his head (see attachment)
-funny thing is that Arlon can be reached exactly through where he went instead of going through the north
-that's not cannibalism, if trolls eat humans; they're not the same race
-Shagga doesn't have a soundset
-why are there letters all over the place left to be found?
-the Palace Guardian can be attacked before it starts being hostile; its animations are... well strange; they are also useless alone as they get stunned often
-"intruders detected..."; what is this, the 21st century?
-some units like peasants that were scattered on the map and other units like the three spearthrowers remain visible on the map/are not cleared after their work is done (check screenshots)
-Throne Sentinel can be attacked before it starts doing anything
-strange that a lever to open a gate would be outside of the place it's supposed to lock down
-how did Arlon see hundreds of trolls if the gate was locked? And, what gate? The one that's in front of him/where he was left takes to the sewers
-Arlon did not get to the other side to join Shagga in the sewers (see pic); that's why Shagga was talking to a wall in the scene before the sewers mission
-Battle Cry and Bandage have the same hotkey "B" in the description but actually the first spell uses "R" like Roar
-Go'Dal ordered Shagga!? Hmm...
-if the hero is attacking in one corner where the Shadow Hunter calls his council, the enemy spawned in the other corners doesn't come to the hero and just wait for him to get close to them; actually the second time the troll calls them they do come out
-I don't want to imagine how easy it's to beat that troll king impostor with both heroes; Shagga seems to be doing just fine alone
-so, the troll had to wait until he was dying to tell the that!?
-for some reason Shagga left the place

4/5.

Kenshi1007 · Sep 19, 2016

deepstrasz said:
A more than decent mix of melee and RPG but I'm afraid it's too long.

1-Thirst of Mana doesn't have a DISBTN (a green square is shown during game pause)
2-Arlon does not start with full mana
3-how did they get there? Don't tell me by boats because it seems the whole place is surrounded by walls
4-didn't know trolls had a writing system
5-heroes selected during cinematic mode (troll totem scene)
6-that Mana Burn sure is powerful, -600 on a voodoo giant
7-Cosmic Bolt does not mention the duration of the stun or the damage it deals
8-"Look over there. I can see the high priest." Well, the player can't
9-oh man, blink spirit teleports the heroes and they can't get back ; wanted to explore everything first
10-Ke'Chulo burns himself too
11-steampunk trolls!? Magic technology?
12-nothing bad actually happens if you fail to answer correctly; I've only chose one wrong answer
13-Cyan Raiders look exactly like Spearthrowers
14-idle worker's icon looks like a peon, maybe because of the portrait belonging to one of the heroes that looks like a peasant?
15-Tide Fabricator and Coral Altar's build descriptions are the same
16-Scale Workshop does not produce anything; I guess it was needed only to upgrade the main building
17-Harpoon Towers have the Magic Sentry ability; where/how to research it?
18-why train 5 Myrmidons when I already have 6? I guess it's because I've trained them before the quest was given
19-the Coral Altar trains Coral Watchers not the Scale Workshop
20-I don't know man, Fishing Post has 2k HP like the Fortified Camp
21-could've been interesting having to find resources for an expansion somewhere else than almost two feet away
22-the guardian communicating with Arlon seems to be using telepathy or shouting very loud
23-the guardian giant has a small selection circle
24-the food supplies text does not update in the log as well; it still keeps the 0/50 after a meat bulk is taken (at least at 40/50 on the screen); it however turns to 50/50 after all 5 meat pieces are gathered
25-afterwards, Huok'Zureh has a "!" over his head and nothing happens when going to him; Shagga also has one
26-I know building another base over the river is the logical thing but you could excuse the player from doing it again; I don't see however why would they not be able to use the food from the previous built tents and transport troops from the other barracks by boats; or at least the buildings for the other units like the archers...; at least the Reef Poison Arrows don't have to be researched again
27-are Fishing Posts eternal? Just curios
28-the sea giants on the shallow water near the protected resources are sleeping and the night doesn't seem to pass; however those near the water marble are not sleeping
29-building a tower near the barrier will attract the trolls that will destroy it easily if not repaired with a lot of peasant; melee troops can't get to the trolls to defend the towers while the barrier is still on
30-also, if one tower is destroyed while the barrier is still on it will still be counted as +1 after two are built
31-Piercer's death sound is that of a elven (woman) archer
32-Xerath is named Myrmidon in the transmission of the scene after the grey fort is destroyed
33-fighting the water priest is way too easy; the battle lasts about a few seconds
34-River Elemental's selection circle is somewhere high like it would be flying
35-Dark Troll Axe thrower has a bigger damage than a Troll Warlord
36-a gate behind the first voodoo guardian Arlon fights alone is named "Ruined Gate2"
37-Xerath is named Myrmidon again and does not have a portrait when speaking; so doesn't Helix when they talk about the defensive base and water platforms
38-check pathing (press P or activate it in the Edit options), blockers & (invisible) platforms at the highland fort of the greys as units can get up and down of walls (see attached picture)
39-those revenants are unarmoured but they look pretty armoured
40-there's a weird dark shield effect on some enemy soldiers (see attached pic)
41-red pings on the map create confusion with those that appear when the player is attacked
42-one of the marble mines belongs to the greys instead of being neutral like the others; the one north and a bit west of the starting base; the one in the last enemy base
43-Helix and Xerath haven't made an appearance for some time now but they still talked as if they were there and Shagga talked to Helix's ghost or invisible hologram
44-the second forcefield generator that Go'Dal has to destroy is not defended; he repeated the same line he said when destroying the first generator
45-tough luck if Shagga and the two elite teleport towards where Arlon remained in front of a big gate in the great bazaar (see pictures)
46-Jorlum returns after Shagga orders him to go somewhere after dispatching Xerath the invisible/absent
47-the troll sage still has a "!" over his head (see attachment)
48-funny thing is that Arlon can be reached exactly through where he went instead of going through the north
49-that's not cannibalism, if trolls eat humans; they're not the same race
50-Shagga doesn't have a soundset
51-why are there letters all over the place left to be found?
52-the Palace Guardian can be attacked before it starts being hostile; its animations are... well strange; they are also useless alone as they get stunned often
53-"intruders detected..."; what is this, the 21st century?
54-some units like peasants that were scattered on the map and other units like the three spearthrowers remain visible on the map/are not cleared after their work is done (check screenshots)
55-Throne Sentinel can be attacked before it starts doing anything
56-strange that a lever to open a gate would be outside of the place it's supposed to lock down
57-how did Arlon see hundreds of trolls if the gate was locked? And, what gate? The one that's in front of him/where he was left takes to the sewers
58-Arlon did not get to the other side to join Shagga in the sewers (see pic); that's why Shagga was talking to a wall in the scene before the sewers mission
59-Battle Cry and Bandage have the same hotkey "B" in the description but actually the first spell uses "R" like Roar
60-Go'Dal ordered Shagga!? Hmm...
61-if the hero is attacking in one corner where the Shadow Hunter calls his council, the enemy spawned in the other corners doesn't come to the hero and just wait for him to get close to them; actually the second time the troll calls them they do come out
62-I don't want to imagine how easy it's to beat that troll king impostor with both heroes; Shagga seems to be doing just fine alone
63-so, the troll had to wait until he was dying to tell the that!?
64-for some reason Shagga left the place

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Hey dude! hows going? Thanks for your watch, rep and rate. This is my hardest work so far. Your review is quite on the detail i must say! I will go on answering every point you said previously, i will number them out so you can easely catch them by the eye.

1 - Thats an issue i must check on.
2 - nope, i would like to see arlon a depleted, bothers me a bit when he glows at the beguining of the cinematic on the campfire. what do you think?
3 - well i did not film the army to get on boats to get to the other shore. tech lazyness ^^
4 - i have to say. i researched that on blizzard forums and troll languege. they acctualy have some data of that
5 - Well spoted, i will fix that.
6 - Boom baby...
7 - Ill fix that tooltip, i forgot some things when i do something huge.
8 - well yea... i might add some reveal on the spot where the priest is
9 - Strange.. Can you mention wich blink spirit you are talking about?
10 - Aoe spell... some mobs are stupid

11 - Wich mobs are you refering to? I might change model.
12 - Well you go back to the first question... on later maps i will insert more PAIN on quizes ;D
13 - Since map 2, i did not remaster that. But i'll see what i can do later on
14 - Oh yea... i made fixed orc template so the peon icon apears instead the peasant. I actually dunno how i fix that.
15 - Damn it.... well spoted xddd
16 - Yea for now... next maps that building will be useful for more advanced units and upgrades. Its like campaign curiosities, making the player imagine how vast the building system will go.
17 - I will erase that upgrade.
18 - Exacly. I did one task at a time.
19 - It sepose to be that way

. Those are badasses

20 - Its a heavy stone fortified structure by nature. But i wanted to be more resistant cause its a great sourse of unit and upgrade development. I might decrease 500hp and more armor.
21 - The map is a bit tight on army manewvers and building strategies. Its going to be a long fix on that but i will be more carefull on next maps. This one ill make an excuse for a tutorial about the cyan building system on my saga.
22 - i did alot of attempts to make the recordings perfectly, not to loud , not to quiet. Its a pain to solve. Ill wait for more opinions and reviews about that subject and i will see if it's worthy to change the sounds.
23 - tiny detail for a tiny fix.

24 - I might screwed the trigger order or the item type. Ill see that.
25 - When did that apeared, which quest?? That is importat to fix
26 - Ill see what i can do on that. I made that system for a long time but i might change a thing or 2.
27 - a pond (ivunerable) like the gold mine are buildable, but if your fishing post is interupted or destroyed, the Pond will apear again like the gold mine. I did test that works for me.
28 - Disturbed giants from the grasp of mankind.

Oh yea its fixed on midnight.
29 - Interesting. I will fix that.
30 - Yep. if i could do the trigger to discount from destruction i would do it

31 - Yea it's from a model imported. I can't change that unfortunatly.
32 - Epic fail xd. I will fix that
33 - I had to change that, forgot about that... i will see into that.
34 - oO Strange...
35 - Didn't saw that detail.
36 - Lol, damn ill fix that
37 - Failiure strikes back xd
38 - I'll look into that. Big map like that it's a pain to watch every detail. thanks
39 - Hmm they are spirits, but i did not took atention on their image. Ill see if i will change that
40 - I saw that on the final test. It's the model glitch from the other author.
41 - I meant for incoming enemies that runs through the platforms and are on their way to attack you.
42 - It's useless after you destroy the fort. I change color for that reason.
43 - thats a critical mistake. Which that part happened?
44 - uggghhh.. that sucks.. i need to change that.
45 - after Nº 45 i see things are happing not according to plan... i see shagga on wrong places and arlon in wrong places aswell.. I must see what happened there. Shagga shouldn't be on the great gate close to the 4 horizontal sunken walls. he should be with 2 spearmen near the grey marble mine (dead fort zone).
46 - I did Move To. and Move. and i can't make him stand still.... can you help me out?
47 - damn it xd if i fix the previous then that one will disapear for sure.
48 - What do you mean about that? im confused sry.
49 - Well they are humanoids, but i will see the proper defenition of cannibalism and see if you are right.
50 - You mean move, attack, other commands?
51 - those letters dont bellong to any quest, it's an idea of mine to make the map more interesting, making you to explore with curiosity and joy.
52 - i am crap for animations but they are constructs meant to be ignored, like alarm traps.
53 - don't be so naive xd, even the boss from World of Warcraft, Ulduar dungeon boss: "the flame leviathan" (robot tank) has robotic 21st century quotes xd
54 - ill fix that later on.
55 - Rescue issues, ill fix that.
56 - I know the gate you are talking about. There is no outside on both places. Its inside on both sides so that door is like a security system.
57 - Yep that's the one. i did not take more details on that. It's not that important i think.
58 - that happened on something from the nº45 and so on. the heroes weren't position on the current spots.
59 - fix on the way
60 - I laugh my a&$ of seeing that XD It's a misspell. Go'Dal prefers pizza. Yes.

61 - Wihch part is that?
62 - It's more entertaining. With one hero sucks, might have been on nº45 or you only entered inside the ring with only shagga.
63 - well... long time tests and to skip all that crappy triggers to get to the fine ones sucks... ill fix that
64 - W-What? xddd strange, happened fine with me

Damn 64 things to work on. most of them are 30 sec / 1 min fix. Thanks for the review about the details, some of them were funny in a good way to read

deepstrasz · Sep 19, 2016

Yeah, next time, I'll add the numbers. Sorry for that.

Kenshi1007 said:
2 - nope, i would like to see arlon a depleted, bothers me a bit when he glows at the beguining of the cinematic on the campfire. what do you think?

In terms of gameplay it's better he starts with 0 mana so the player would have to work/play a little to use Arlon's abilities at higher potential. About FX during cinematic mode: is that a buff you're using? You could use the action: remove buff. Otherwise, you could just remove the ability using the action: remove ability and add it after the cinematic scene with add ability.

Kenshi1007 said:
5 - Well spoted, i will fix that.

Units selected during cinematic mode is just annoying to look at but it is in no way a bug. The bad part is, that you'll have to check all cinematic triggers just in case I or anyone here missed a scene to report.

Kenshi1007 said:
9 - Strange.. Can you mention wich blink spirit you are talking about?

The first one encountered by the two heroes. I was in the gardens (I think) where the tree spirits were and did not explore the whole place because I was too curious to click the green wisp that teleported my heroes

Kenshi1007 said:
11 - Wich mobs are you refering to? I might change model.

No, I mean, the gadget with the questions to unlock a barrier (or was it a door? I don't really remember). It's like a stone age computer or something.

Kenshi1007 said:
12 - Well you go back to the first question... on later maps i will insert more PAIN on quizes ;D

Oh, really? I missed that. Well, if you decide to add damage, you should make a way for the player to find out the answers (by reading something or someone to tell them stories) somewhere before taking the quiz.

Kenshi1007 said:
14 - Oh yea... i made fixed orc template so the peon icon apears instead the peasant. I actually dunno how i fix that.

If it's not a unit editor option, then maybe the race is set to orc? Also, I think it can be modified in the game interface that can be accessed somewhere on the bar where File, Edit, Window and other stuff are.

Kenshi1007 said:
25 - When did that apeared, which quest?? That is importat to fix

No worries, It doesn't affect the game. It just confuses the player that the troll sage wants something to say or give a quest. It happened after finishing the voodoo spirit quest and the one the troll spirit in armour gives.

Kenshi1007 said:
27 - a pond (ivunerable) like the gold mine are buildable, but if your fishing post is interupted or destroyed, the Pond will apear again like the gold mine. I did test that works for me.

Nonono. I meant, how much resources does it have? Doesn't it expire like the gold mine?

Kenshi1007 said:
30 - Yep. if i could do the trigger to discount from destruction i would do it

You need a bolean to keep true while the barrier is on and false afterwards. So if a tower is built it adds to the integer variable +1 but if a tower is destroyed and the bolean is still true, the integer will get -1.

Kenshi1007 said:
38 - I'll look into that. Big map like that it's a pain to watch every detail. thanks

Yes, I know. It's horrible actually. You kind of overdone yourself on the size of this one. You could go 25% smaller on your next maps

Kenshi1007 said:
41 - I meant for incoming enemies that runs through the platforms and are on their way to attack you.

I know but you could change the colour of the ping to blue, pink or whatever else if you want

Kenshi1007 said:
43 - thats a critical mistake. Which that part happened?

I think they went drinking, at least physically, after the first cinematic scene on the second shore (where the sea giants are). You might want to check all the triggers with Xerath and Helix. It's the most time consuming but safest way to fix.

Kenshi1007 said:
i see shagga on wrong places and arlon in wrong places aswell.. I must see what happened there. Shagga shouldn't be on the great gate close to the 4 horizontal sunken walls. he should be with 2 spearmen near the grey marble mine (dead fort zone).

Shagga and his two elite start exactly where you wrote but I moved them to Arlon through the green wisp to the east of that marble mine. The problem is they can't return once the wisp teleports them.

Kenshi1007 said:
46 - I did Move To. and Move. and i can't make him stand still.... can you help me out?

If you want him to disappear just use the remove/hide unit action when he enters a region. If you want him to still be somewhere just use the pause unit action when he enters the destination (region).

Kenshi1007 said:
48 - What do you mean about that? im confused sry.

You can get to Arlon through the green wisp east/left of the marble mine in the last grey base.

Kenshi1007 said:
50 - You mean move, attack, other commands?

I guess so. He doesn't say anything like other units: "Yes master", "I hear you", "It shall be done" etc.

Kenshi1007 said:
52 - i am crap for animations but they are constructs meant to be ignored, like alarm traps.

My friend, why ignore when they give XP!

Kenshi1007 said:
53 - don't be so naive xd, even the boss from World of Warcraft, Ulduar dungeon boss: "the flame leviathan" (robot tank) has robotic 21st century quotes xd

But I am not naive (or maybe I am?). World of Warcraft is. Anyways, I find it strange inserting something like that into a medieval or even primitive setting.

Kenshi1007 said:
61 - Wihch part is that?

When you fight the last boss; it's not a big issues but might be an advantage for the player at times when regeneration is needed. Water elementals stun which makes it harder for the heroes to act. If the elementals stay near the portals instead of coming to attack the heroes then it's easier for the heroes to get them one by one.

Kenshi1007 said:
62 - It's more entertaining. With one hero sucks, might have been on nº45 or you only entered inside the ring with only shagga.

I didn't enter with only Shagga. Arlon was still in front of that gate and there was no way to get him out of there. But, really, the last boss should be more difficult to beat.

Anyways, I think I forgot to mention that the terrain is very well made, especially the heights even if at times the camera is too close.

Kenshi1007 · Sep 20, 2016

11 - Oh those gadjets! Well i don't know if you know something about trolls, but the Gurubashi and the Amani empires after the Zandalari split, they are full primitive, on this story i added the Sarthari as an alternate tribe from the diferent timeline of this campaign. They posess few powerfull techs on the city, wanna know why?

You have to wait till map 4 comes out, that will reviel whats behind the sarthari trolls.

27 - I guess its 40000 lumber (kinda infinite for average playing) but i did it alot of capacity to be endless, but what matters is the income of lumber, more ponds, better is.

50 - yea on my previous maps he dosen't say those quotes, but i saw some tutorials how to insert quotes. I have some plans on that. Mabye on an update on my triology i will add quotes.

Thank you for your advice. I did this map in 6 months. It's a pain. I wish i could pop out the rest of the chapter but that takes alot of time to do them. Their terrain is done. I love terraining.... Triggers, it's nightmare for me.

deepstrasz · Sep 20, 2016

Kenshi1007 said:
I did this map in 6 months.

, I hate that too.

Kenshi1007 said:
Their terrain is done. I love terraining.... Triggers, it's nightmare for me.

Yeah, doing terrain is more fun. Triggers are like doing maths and puzzles and usually tend to break for me until I waste even more time sorting them out.

Kenshi1007 said:
You have to wait till map 4 comes out, that will reviel whats behind the sarthari trolls

Oh, they are fan fiction? I thought they were from WoW too. I didn't play WoW much. Didn't like the gameplay and the story was shaped for it and didn't really want to get that in my head. However, there is some really interesting stuff there but one has to carefully pick that gold up.

hypsandar · Jan 17, 2017

Interesting.

Really Unusual · Apr 12, 2018

is chapter 4 released?

Kenshi1007 · Apr 12, 2018

Really Unusual said:
is chapter 4 released?

Im working on it.Terrain is complete, only triggers and map testing is under development. Thank you for asking

Really Unusual · Apr 14, 2018

Kenshi1007 said:
Im working on it.Terrain is complete, only triggers and map testing is under development. Thank you for asking

Yay! I can't wait to play it!

Kenshi1007 · Apr 14, 2018

ANNOUNCEMENT

Map 4 Terrain is pretty much done. The map is basicaly a little larger than episode 3
However i have lots of characters in which they will have voice on them and i am looking for voice actors from anybody in this community who have at least 2 requirements:
- A decente no-noise mic
- + 18 years old of age (cuz... i dont have kid characters

)

Here is my discord Kenshi#0533 for those who are interested to participate

I will make a simple audition by listening one of your samples for the best voices of type of characters you know and then i will give you a rol of a character.

If you don't have Discord go to the top right corner of this page and click on the gaming console near the Tweeter bird

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jhfetestr2 · May 23, 2021

I tried to play this map. In a quest, i needed to gather razorleafs with Arlon but the game didn't count any of razorleafs i gathered. Are there any specific way(s) to gather them? I am right clicking to them. I also tried to use "A" to attack them. Either way, it didn't count. My game had stuck there.
Also, is there a cheat command for that quest? I didn't saved before the quest. If the game doesn't refresh razorleafs, i had to start from beginning. I don't think there are enough (or any) razorleafs left on the allowed area of map.

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