Lizardman Skyhunter

Moderator · Feb 4, 2013

20:38, 9th Mar 2013
Kwaliti: Work more on the head wrap. Looks pretty blurry.

Misha's edit: fix the bad normals on the wings membrane and it'll be good to go, i think

usfshihy · Feb 5, 2013

The wing and the dragon head are blurry and not wrapped well

Sin'dorei300 · Feb 7, 2013

Dragon's wrap needs working.

grunt · Feb 16, 2013

nice and creative model though the mouth of the dragon don't fit that much so I give it 4/5

Doom Wolf · Feb 27, 2013

usfshihy said:
The wing and the dragon head are blurry and not wrapped well

Sin'dorei300 said:
Dragon's wrap needs working.

Perhaps I wasn't clear enough...its a pterodon.... not a dragon
I'll work on the wrap some more

KaplanHorus · Mar 10, 2013

249.72 KB ? too much bro

Doom Wolf · Mar 11, 2013

KaplanHorus said:
249.72 KB ? too much bro

When I have time to work on the UV some more, I will optimize it

InfernalTater · Apr 19, 2013

Still needs work on the wrap, it's really sloppy. Blurry on some parts, lines on others. When you can see the individual polygons of a model on something that's supposed to be smooth, the wrap's not done right. Still, as a small unit in-game it looks good enough, I guess.

3/5, please work on the wrap.

Doom Wolf · Apr 24, 2013

So I changed the pterodon significantly making it look more Cretaceous rather than Triassic. The wrap is kind of messy but all things considered (it uses furbolg ursa texture) I think it turned out OK. Also I optimized it. reducing size by alot.

Misha · Apr 24, 2013

now this is actually great

only wondering how teeth are made? if each is separately modeled, then you should replace them with teeth-strip.. saves a lot of polys since those teeth aren't gonna be looked that up-close ingame

Bboy Moose · Apr 24, 2013

The teeth thing is true, i think it looks kinda weird this way, not like it's visible ingame though
Now i don't know anything about wrap n shit, i'm not a modeler but i can tell you this model looks well made :wink:

Doom Wolf · Apr 24, 2013

Misha said:
now this is actually great
only wondering how teeth are made? if each is separately modeled, then you should replace them with teeth-strip.. saves a lot of polys since those teeth aren't gonna be looked that up-close ingame

I'll try that when I find a suitable teeth texture

Misha · Apr 25, 2013

Moose23 said:
The teeth thing is true, i think it looks kinda weird this way, not like it's visible ingame though
Now i don't know anything about wrap n shit, i'm not a modeler but i can tell you this model looks well made

the thing with warcraf3 models is that they are designed to be low-poly, which means that each mesh detail should only point out the overall shape, leaving the textures to do the details and so on, thus the excessive mesh like each separate tooth is really unneeded, due to war3's configuration to run on pretty low- filesize models. it too can tolerate high poly, but not as much as other games..

so.. i think that limiting to low-poly in warcraft3 also helps the model maker think a lill bit outside the box, and thus create something that is both eye candy and has low-ish filesize

so.. i hope my lill wall of text was useful and didn't send anyone into a nap

cheers

Mgeterno11 · Apr 25, 2013

Looks nicely done but the teeth should be fixed to be smaller. Good luck. 5/5

Misha · Apr 26, 2013

so.. i checked.. you'd need to change the model's internal name, to fix the teeth strips to connect to each other, and to fix the normals on the wings, setting them to unshaded looks weird ingame. oh and.. why do you have TC in the wing material? Oo

Doom Wolf · Apr 29, 2013

Misha said:
so.. i checked.. you'd need to change the model's internal name, to fix the teeth strips to connect to each other, and to fix the normals on the wings, setting them to unshaded looks weird ingame. oh and.. why do you have TC in the wing material? Oo

I can fix all that but, how do I change the internal name?

Misha · Apr 29, 2013

Doom Wolf said:
I can fix all that but, how do I change the internal name?

model properties in model editor's 'edit' tab

MiniMage · May 3, 2013

Was bored and textured the "dragon" with the felhound and battroll textures

If you want this little boredom stuff, I can give you the result of my boredom edit if you want.

Misha · May 3, 2013

MiniMage said:
Was bored and textured the "dragon" with the felhound and battroll textures
If you want this little boredom stuff, I can give you the result of my boredom edit if you want.

you kinda murdered the poor thing Oo

MiniMage · May 3, 2013

Misha said:
you kinda murdered the poor thing Oo

I did? XD

Misha · May 3, 2013

MiniMage said:
I did? XD

it looks cool as a concept, just needs a decent rewap.. and maybe a different rider. maybe permission?

but we are getting off topic here

Doom Wolf · May 4, 2013

So I changed the Internal name and other changes....

Misha said:
it looks cool as a concept, just needs a decent rewap.. and maybe a different rider. maybe permission?

but we are getting off topic here

Interesting, but yes.. permission would have been a good place to start.... :vw_unimpressed:

Remake it from scratch, I don't want you to edit off my model, and besides you would get better tail animations if you did

usfshihy said:
The wing and the dragon head are blurry and not wrapped well

Sin'dorei300 said:
Dragon's wrap needs working.

MiniMage said:
Was bored and textured the "dragon" with the felhound and battroll textures
If you want this little boredom stuff, I can give you the result of my boredom edit if you want.

And before I completely lose my mind.... :ogre_rage:

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT'S NOT A DRAGON? :goblin_wtf:

..had to let that out.. I mean seriously people its a pterosaur, a prehistoric flying reptile, kind of like the stuff Olofmoleman used to make, just with in-game textures.

Bboy Moose · May 4, 2013

Doom Wolf said:
And before I completely lose my mind....HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT'S NOT A DRAGON? ..had to let that out.. I mean seriously people its a pterosaur, a prehistoric flying reptile, kind of like the stuff Olofmoleman used to make, just with in-game textures.

Hmm they're kinda right about the dragon's head

though i think Minimage's dragon should be submitted as well or something :ogre_hurrhurr:

EDIT: Minimage, if you read this, this has a potential for a Nazgul dragon rider skin, with different rider ofcourse :wink:

MiniMage · May 4, 2013

Doom Wolf said:
permission would have been a good place to start....

It's not like I was claiming ownership. I did a retexturing to display a idea that I thought would look good.

Doom Wolf said:
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT'S NOT A DRAGON? ..had to let that out.. I mean seriously people its a pterosaur, a prehistoric flying reptile, kind of like the stuff Olofmoleman used to make, just with in-game textures.

I'd still change the texture of the wings to the battroll texture. the white wings just look weird imo.
Also, it's a Pterosaur? It doesn't really look like it. ;O

http://therisingsunsangrag.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/pterosaur1.jpg

btw, the reason people call it a dragon is because a Pterosaur in reality wouldn't be that big. It would generally be the size of a human and it's main source would be fish. When you scale it up and place a rider on its back, we will generally consider it a dragon.

A minor tidbit. Pterosaur is not a name of a single dinosaur. It's a name for a group of a dinosaur species. Here's a couple different pterosaurs. http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/118/7/7/Some_pterosaur_heads_by_zakafreakarama.png

And here's a new species of pterosaur that was discovered rather recently. http://www.livescience.com/9240-pterosaur-jawbone-storage-cabinet.html It's most recent living descendant is the Ptychozoon flying geckos. ;P

Doom Wolf · May 4, 2013

MiniMage said:
It's not like I was claiming ownership. I did a retexturing to display a idea that I thought would look good.

I'd still change the texture of the wings to the battroll texture. the white wings just look weird imo.
Also, it's a Pterosaur? It doesn't really look like it. ;O

http://therisingsunsangrag.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/pterosaur1.jpg

btw, the reason people call it a dragon is because a Pterosaur in reality wouldn't be that big. It would generally be the size of a human and it's main source would be fish. When you scale it up and place a rider on its back, we will generally consider it a dragon.

A minor tidbit. Pterosaur is not a name of a single dinosaur. It's a name for a group of a dinosaur species. Here's a couple different pterosaurs. http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/118/7/7/Some_pterosaur_heads_by_zakafreakarama.png
;P

First things first...
Ever heard of quetzalcoatlus?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetzalcoatlus
Slightly bigger than you implied but, yes I realize I scaled it up more than that. Also I know that the word pterosaur refers to a whole family of flying reptiles. I guess I got the wrong impression with your first post with your edit of this model. Also I would like to know how it doesn't look like a pterosaur? https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gs_rn=12&gs_ri=psy-ab&tok=8BhXTG8TjDtNYMey_aIlZQ&pq=quetzalcoatlus&cp=6&gs_id=23&xhr=t&q=pterosaur&biw=1024&bih=677&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.45960087,d.cGE&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=41uFUajMGqOkigKmv4HoCA I based the mount off of the first image on the top left, shortish neck, long skull, big teeth, long wingspan, orange and kind of striped skin, the white webbing on the wings was an attempt to make it more colorful.

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