Looks promising! Although the spells from the screenshots doesn't look triggered.

I can't give it a high rating, so I won't give it a rating at all before you improve a lot.
There is a lot to improve for this to get accepted.
Everything past this point is my notes when playing the map.

Map description:
*Chose one from heroes[...]
It should be "Choose one of the
*One More Thing. Don't Ever Write Like This. Ever.

Loading screen:
-Bright picture(strains my eyes) and the text is also white(hard to see with the background being light).

In the game now.

*I got a quest to kill some gnoll. Some lore would be good to add here, as I have no idea why I should do that and if it influences anything else. Also, I think the range for accepting quests should be lowered, as I just moved a little and the quest was accepted(didn't even notice the quest giver before that)

*At first I looked that lvl 1 spiders have more health than level 2, but now it seems logical, since they are melee.

+Mission rewards are given to you right away when completing quest. It might be weird, but I like it.

-I'm gaining levels at an insane speed, I feel that I'm being overrewarded, but then again I haven't gained any considerable stats with 7 levels.
-In the first minutes of the game I already got some gloves worth 1750. I think they are either too powerful for starting or too expensive.
I got lots of mana and mana regeneration. I feel like I should be a mage, but there are no spells for that. It's simply impossible to spend all mana.

-Levels don't correspond to power. (Heroes compared to creeps)

Can't find any equipment vendors in the starting village, what I did find was boots of speed for 150 gold and a potion for 200. Since this is just an ordinary health potion, not some Ub3rl33t item, then I think it should be cheaper. Also note, that consumables are consumed, thus they should cost less than permanent items(boots of speed).

lvl 7 makrura is incredibly powerful compared to the anything else.

No power progression apart from skills. I gain lots of levels, but my stats barely go up. This makes it feel like I was given an OP char at first and then later I still can't beat anything, as I haven't got any more powerful.

The Geefok's hill is marked as Very Hard. Why is it so when it's the first dungeon? Additionally, the entrance looks like a random decoration. I didn't recognize it before I actually started looking for it.

The player name of player 12 is player 12. I suppose it would be good to change the name to something like "Creeps".

Gertok's Cave: Difficulty easy.
1. It is farther than geefok's hill, so it is likely to be found much later.
2. The area around it is marked as pro
3. The actual difficulty is harder than Geefok's hill

Almost all starting quests lead you to places where the player simply lacks enough power to do anything. This makes the game quite bad for singleplayer.

Geefok's cave is not in the north-east region, although the quest says it is. It is actually just east.

I've explored a quarter of the map and still can't find blacksmith or great hall.

Not going to play further at this point, as this map is simply not playable. Hopefully will be in the future.

Everyone has the right to comment :|

So I guess I will start with the beginning. As a heads up everything in this post will be centered to make it easier to read with the images.



So let's see the gameplay is repetitive, the terrain is horrendous, the story is nonexistent, and several things do not work. To list a lot of my annoyances potions do not stack, enemies do not scale with the amount of players, bosses respawn like normal units would, health regen seemed rather low early on, dungeons porting me back to the STARTING town even if further along in the game, and last that I can think of there is no penalty for deaths. I may be wrong about the scaling I only played it by myself, but from what I saw I do not think it scales.

I probably missed some stuff since it is 4AM here, and I am going to be getting like 4 hours of sleep. I may update this after I've gotten some sleep. Updated to hopefully improve readability.

You will be able to spend those Points when you get 50 level on Attribute Points! And i fixed everythink you say it's bad in this comment! Theres just one problem i can't find very good save/load system i tried around 3-4 but only one worked but it has some bugs! Once i find system or make one i will release the new version.
Okay i released the new version i fixed everythink

My point was that you should never have a stock pile of points that you can't spend till you're a higher level it is simply bad design. Players look forward to leveling and deciding what to put the point towards. Leveling and getting a point but having nothing to spend it on yet is plain disappointing imo.

Now onto the stuff that you say you have fixed (haven't gotten around to retesting yet), better directions, better quest names, and fixing the promotion bug all of these are good and steps in the right direction. The only problem is that none of these really address the core problem, which is that for the first 25 or so levels you have no active abilities (Battle Roar doesn't really count imo). If you intend to keep it that way you need something to break up the monotonous combat whether it be storytelling/puzzles or whatever, but there needs to be something to break it up.

My opinion still stands that this isn't ready to be released and is better suited for the Map Development forum.

I don't want make the starter class perfect. Thats why i made a Start Class and 2 Promotions(Master Class and Legendary). And about the bugs i fixed everythink retest it you'l see.

Drunk3nPanda said:

I don't want make the starter class perfect. Thats why i made a Start Class and 2 Promotions(Master Class and Legendary). And about the bugs i fixed everythink retest it you'l see.

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Usually what people do is make starter class(es) have a nice variety of skills that work well together.
Then how are they weaker? - The skills are still relatively basic or have much less power than what improved classes have.

Because if you make the starting class an utter failure or boring to play, then people won't appreciate the higher classes either(as they will quit before reaching them).

Drunk3nPanda said:

I don't want make the starter class perfect.

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I don't want the starter class to be perfect. What I want is for combat to be more interactive than it currently is. At the moment with how the abilities are all passive the combat is simply attack moving and occasionally prioritizing a target and even that is rare. Rework it so that you have some active abilities as well on the starter class, make prioritizing certain targets/mobs more important, and finally make boss fights more complex (they currently just consist of hit them till they fall over). Those are the main things I would like to see (I would also like to see multiple starter classes, but let's just work on the basics here).

Since you keep asking for a mod to review your map I thought I would just link you to the map submission rules. At the moment you do not meet at least 3 of the criteria. Let me go over the ones I feel you do not meet real quick.

Submitted Map Resources need to have a good description on the Hive

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All you have is "Choose one of the Heroes and Defend the Human race from Demons!" and some screenshots. There is no list of features, no story, and the simple description you have could use some more details.

Work in progress (WIP) maps are not allowed, the map needs to be at least in BETA or complete.

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This is not a complete map in anyway, and if it is then it definitely does not meet the next criteria of quality.

A certain amount of quality is required, the gameplay needs to be somewhat fun, the terrain must not be lacking and a bit of originality should be present.

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At the moment the gameplay is not fun, the terrain is most definitely lacking, and finally with no story there isn't really anything that hasn't been done before it is simply generic.

Now this next one is simply of a pet peeve of mine and that is "Protected/Open Source? Let the community know in the Hive description". You do not say whether it is protected or open source anywhere. Also, since I can't see the code I won't comment on the criteria of "The triggering needs to be efficient and mostly leakless". Oh and I am not sure about that loading screen either.

Anyway I am not trying to bash you, make you feel bad, or anything like that. I am simply trying to give you advice and help you improve your map. Please keep that in mind.

Xonok said:

Usually what people do is make starter class(es) have a nice variety of skills that work well together.
Then how are they weaker? - The skills are still relatively basic or have much less power than what improved classes have.

Because if you make the starting class an utter failure or boring to play, then people won't appreciate the higher classes either(as they will quit before reaching them).

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I made quest that you can promote to master class in 5mins.
and Velgen you don't have just to run around there are around 15 quest, go finish some quest instead of killing spiders or naga or other creeps.

Drunk3nPanda said:

Velgen you don't have just to run around there are around 15 quest, go finish some quest instead of killing spiders or naga or other creeps.

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I did do the quests. You seem to be misunderstanding my point or just completely ignoring it. The combat is dull early on with little to no interaction, and the quests are just hey go kill this or go do this with no explanation as to why. Just because you are doing it for a quest does not make it fun or enjoyable.