New Races Project [v1.0.2]

BABA · Dec 10, 2017

Nice idea . Keep going

Zephyrius2412 · Dec 10, 2017

BABA said:
Nice idea . Keep going

Thank you

Deleted member 237964 · Dec 10, 2017

I wish we could have "Alterac" army,like similliar to human race,a mix of horde and alliance units.

DjoleKG · Dec 10, 2017

Will you add dwarfs and forsaken?

WolfFarkas · Dec 11, 2017

I sugest you to use [ ] hidden tags in the description, so you won´t have a wall of screens and people can open and close them at will.

also, it helps to avoid lag

TadokiLor · Dec 11, 2017

Keep Going this can be a big and beatiful man bro!

Zephyrius2412 · Dec 11, 2017

TadokiLor said:
Keep Going this can be a big and beatiful man bro!

Thank you very much

Cake is a Lie · Dec 14, 2017

Ok,murlocs...I suggest murlocs...

Wareditor · Dec 14, 2017

Looks neat !
I think you should do one that was never been done before.
Anyway, keep up the good work et bonne chance à toi !

Zephyrius2412 · Dec 14, 2017

Cake is a Lie said:
Ok,murlocs...I suggest murlocs...

I always wanted to create a Murloc race, the only problem is that there is not enough murlocs model in-game and on the Hive... But I though about neutral hostile races, like Bandits, Murlocs, etc... in which there is a bit less buildings and units but still playable. I though too about a Goblin race, simple neutral race where the goal is too trade with other players, and gain a max of gold.

Wareditor said:
Looks neat !
I think you should do one that was never been done before.
Anyway, keep up the good work et bonne chance à toi !

Thank you ! (Merci

)

Deleted member 237964 · Dec 14, 2017

Zephyrius2412 said:
I always wanted to create a Murloc race, the only problem is that there is not enough murlocs model in-game and on the Hive... But I though about neutral hostile races, like Bandits, Murlocs, etc... in which there is a bit less buildings and units but still playable. I though too about a Goblin race, simple neutral race where the goal is too trade with other players, and gain a max of gold.

Thank you ! (Merci )

Bandit race,i've looked for something like this for years! Please,please!

Zephyrius2412 · Dec 14, 2017

Admiral Proudmoore said:
Bandit race,i've looked for something like this for years! Please,please!

I will work on this for sure, just be patient

I'm working on Naga race.

Deleted member 237964 · Dec 14, 2017

Zephyrius2412 said:
I will work on this for sure, just be patient I'm working on Naga race.

Good luck on that! Also...two things.First.....how about Nation Of Alterac race? The traitor one? Also...someone suggested you a Murloc race and i think that despite not many murloc models there is a way that could be done,if...you are interested in people suggesting things of course.

Kyrbi0 · Dec 14, 2017

Welcome to the vaunted ranks of the Race Creators!

Lots to say, but I'm at work, so it'll be short for now... Basically, looking really rather good. Very interested in your decision to modify the *standard* race(s) rather than build your custom race around it.

Don't forget; each faction has 12 units, so you'll need (rather 'get') to add two more units. : )

Also, VERY much want to know what the new Alliance units/abilities are & do.

BABA · Dec 15, 2017

Zephyrius2412 said:
I always wanted to create a Murloc race, the only problem is that there is not enough murlocs model in-game and on the Hive... But I though about neutral hostile races, like Bandits, Murlocs, etc... in which there is a bit less buildings and units but still playable. I though too about a Goblin race, simple neutral race where the goal is too trade with other players, and gain a max of gold.

Thank you ! (Merci )

And what will be main hero class ? Paladin, Shaman and Warlock ?!

stein123 · Dec 15, 2017

Actually there are a LOT of murloc models (and buildings), enough to make at least three different factions of them.

Zephyrius2412 · Dec 15, 2017

BABA said:
And what will be main hero class ? Paladin, Shaman and Warlock ?!

For the Bandit race, I though about Bandit Ranger, Bandit Lord, and I will see... For the Murloc race I though about Sorceror... But I'm actually working on Naga race, and after that I will work on Fel Orc race. You have to be patient

DarkRanger2 · Dec 15, 2017

I feel like you tried to make this mixed between Night elves and Humans, but there's really nothing similar to nothing.
There's no Lynx rider in Blood elf Culture, they ride those giant birds.
The race is a little too much similar to Night elves, Archers and Huntresses, it is like Night elves joined few Blood elves. Nothing has changed.

You should focus on the lore, and make new units, and try to find a balance to get it correctly done.

Zephyrius2412 · Dec 15, 2017

DarkRangerAlice said:
I feel like you tried to make this mixed between Night elves and Humans, but there's really nothing similar to nothing.
There's no Lynx rider in Blood elf Culture, they ride those giant birds.
The race is a little too much similar to Night elves, Archers and Huntresses, it is like Night elves joined few Blood elves. Nothing has changed.

You should focus on the lore, and make new units, and try to find a balance to get it correctly done.

It's simple for a person who have modeler in her project. I work solo, I need to search corrects models which look like these of Blizzard. It's a derivatives races projects, its not just Blood Elfs, but a lot of races I'm working on. If you read the description... It's a bit complex to find AND blood elfs units in culture AND models which match with it.
And it's a strange way to thank people who help you in your project too...

Diegoit · Dec 15, 2017

The problem when changing units is that Human race gamers now must learn to play it again, im making an altered melee too and i just change their models. Same with Nerubians and Undeads.

Sometimes little changes can destroy melee balance but anyways who wants play this map must know it

deepstrasz · Dec 15, 2017

That Mini-Game tag has nothing to do with this.
Would you mind hiding the big picture or at least resize it?

1. Honestly writing, I was expecting it to be less like the Human faction. I mean even the food system is the Human 6 food. I suggest a unique or at least differentiated food system. Why not make the "farms" have an ability which for instance replenishes the Blood Elven units magic addiction?
2. Archers could have other abilities, not most of the Night Elf ones. Same with the Lynx Rider. Maybe you'd want to replace the Moon Glaive with something else.
3. Even the heroes are a combination of Human and Night Elf ones...
4. The only difference between the Guard and Earth-Fury Tower is a bit of their aspect, the 50 HP bonus for the latter and its handicap of not being able to attack air units. That's not enough really. At least add siege attack to it. Same with Sky-Fury, has the least HP, attacks only air and has 100 bonus range. They all can be built from the start.
5. Devour Magic=Growl's icon with different hue.
6. Spell Breakers, Priests, Sorceresses, exactly the same.
7. I also suggest that the Lieutenant's Spell Immunity be enabled by an upgrade. Maybe take Defend out not to be a same spell the Footman has? Otherwise the Footman isn't special anymore.

8. Human is still a mixed faction because of dwarves and gnomes.
9. All Blood Elf towers have Fortified armour while the Human ones have Heavy except for the Canon Tower.
10. I think the items in the shops are identical on both BE and Human. Might want to find another model for the Marketplace to not look like the neutral building.
11. The wizards are too similar to the BE ones.
12. I think Hydromancers should still take 3 food because they can summon an elemental. Also, that kind of kills the Archmage's spell.
13. The Hunter hero has Searing Arrows and Critical Strike seen on two other melee heroes from other factions.
14. Rain of Shells has the hotkey S as the command Stop. It's also Starfall.

While I appreciate the lovely finesse in what the visuals are concerned, the techtree just doesn't bring enough novelty to the Altered Melee table.
It's weird to play as Blood Elf for instance against Night Elf and against Human too because they have duplicate units.

Here are some good Altered Melee maps to learn from:
UB - Ultimate Battle v1.96 AI+ (a sum of more maps)
Deforestation of Felwood v2.1.1
Nightborne v1.03
Planetary Domination v2.04

Here is a guide: How to: Create a Full-working Custom Race

Awaiting Update.

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Diegoit · Dec 15, 2017

deepstrasz said:
That Mini-Game tag has nothing to do with this.
Would you mind hiding the big picture or at least resize it?

1. Honestly writing, I was expecting it to be less like the Human faction. I mean even the food system is the Human 6 food. I suggest a unique or at least differentiated food system. Why not make the "farms" have an ability which for instance replenishes the Blood Elven units magic addiction?
2. Archers could have other abilities, not most of the Night Elf ones. Same with the Lynx Rider. Maybe you'd want to replace the Moon Glaive with something else.
3. Even the heroes are a combination of Human and Night Elf ones...
4. The only difference between the Guard and Earth-Fury Tower is a bit of their aspect, the 50 HP bonus for the latter and its handicap of not being able to attack air units. That's not enough really. At least add siege attack to it. Same with Sky-Fury, has the least HP, attacks only air and has 100 bonus range. They all can be built from the start.
5. Devour Magic=Growl's icon with different hue.
6. Spell Breakers, Priests, Sorceresses, exactly the same.
7. I also suggest that the Lieutenant's Spell Immunity be enabled by an upgrade. Maybe take Defend out not to be a same spell the Footman has? Otherwise the Footman isn't special anymore.

8. Human is still a mixed faction because of dwarves and gnomes.
9. All Blood Elf towers have Fortified armour while the Human ones have Heavy except for the Canon Tower.
10. I think the items in the shops are identical on both BE and Human. Might want to find another model for the Marketplace to not look like the neutral building.
11. The wizards are too similar to the BE ones.
12. I think Hydromancers should still take 3 food because they can summon an elemental. Also, that kind of kills the Archmage's spell.
13. The Hunter hero has Searing Arrows and Critical Strike seen on two other melee heroes from other factions.
14. Rain of Shells has the hotkey S as the command Stop. It's also Starfall.

While I appreciate the lovely finesse in what the visuals are concerned, the techtree just doesn't bring enough novelty to the Altered Melee table.
It's weird to play as Blood Elf for instance against Night Elf and against Human too because they have duplicate units.

Here are some good Altered Melee maps to learn from:
UB - Ultimate Battle v1.96 AI+ (a sum of more maps)
Deforestation of Felwood v2.1.1
Nightborne v1.03
Planetary Domination v2.04

Awaiting Update.

====================================

Always check/recheck the Map Submission Rules! (Map Submission Rules)

A detailed changelog in the first post would be helpful to reviewers and notify fans about the newest implementations to your map.

To make your work run smoother, fix the so called leaks: Triggers - Memory Leaks and Custom Scripts

If you want more reviews, come here:
The Grand Review Exchange!

This isnt my thread but thanks bro, i hope you still here to review my altered melee. GJ.

Zephyrius2412 · Dec 15, 2017

deepstrasz said:
That Mini-Game tag has nothing to do with this.

It's a simple error, I'm sorry, I will change this.

deepstrasz said:
Would you mind hiding the big picture or at least resize it?

Ok, I'll add a spoiler.

deepstrasz said:
Devour Magic=Growl's icon with different hue.

Like in WoW.

deepstrasz said:
Human is still a mixed faction because of dwarves and gnomes.

I didn't said I changed Human race into Human only.

deepstrasz said:
I think Hydromancers should still take 3 food because they can summon an elemental. Also, that kind of kills the Archmage's spell.

I will correct that in the next addition: Naga race.

deepstrasz said:
The Hunter hero has Searing Arrows and Critical Strike seen on two other melee heroes from other factions.
14. Rain of Shells has the hotkey S as the command Stop. It's also Starfall.

Maybe you don't have the same means for "derivatives".

deepstrasz said:
Awaiting Update.

I'm ok with this. I will work on unique melee maps (made by me) for New Races project. For now it's a sort of beta...

deepstrasz said:
A detailed changelog in the first post would be helpful to reviewers and notify fans about the newest implementations to your map.

I didn't made changements, I put "v1.0.2" because I already made changements before uploading. I will add changelog for the next update.

I thank you for your attention, for your review. I will take in consideration what you said, and I will make some changements.

DoomStriderDoom · Dec 16, 2017

I suggest you make a Gnoll race, or a Burning Legion race.

Saelendious · Dec 17, 2017

lets see your take on dalaran race, huh

tbh im not imressed with your take on the blood elves, and deepstrasz pretty much explained why

	Primary structure, used to train Workers and receive gathered resources. Can be upgraded to Spire and then Citadel to enable the production of additional types of structures and units.
	Upgrade to Spire to enable the production of additional types of structures and units.
	Upgrade to Citadel to enable the production of additional types of structures and units.
	Summons Heroes. Revives slain Heroes.
	Primary troop production building. Trains Archers, Lynx Riders and Lieutenants. Also contains the Animal War Training, Defend, Improved Bows, Marksmanship and Sun Glaive upgrades.
	Provides food, which increases the maximum number of units that can be trained.
	Contains the attack and armor upgrades for all units.
	Serves as a drop-off point for harvested lumber. Also contains the upgrades for Lumber Harvesting and Masonry.
	Trains Priests, Sorceresses, and Spell Breakers. Also contains spell upgrades for Priests and Sorceresses, Control Magic, and Magic Sentry.
	Produces Ballistae and Arcane Guardians. Also contains the Impaling Bolt upgrades.
	Trains Dragonhawk Riders. Also contains the Cloud upgrade.
	Scout Tower: Basic observation tower. Has no attack, but can be upgraded into a Guard Tower, an Earth-Fury Tower, or a Sky-Fury Tower. Can learn the Magic Sentry ability. Guard Tower: Primary defensive structure. Can learn the Magic Sentry ability. Attacks land and air units. Earth-Fury Tower: Powerful ground defensive structure. Can learn the Magic Sentry ability. Attacks land units. Sky-Fury Tower: Powerful air defensive structure. Can learn the Magic Sentry ability. Attacks air units.
	A shop with purchasable items. The items available depend upon what level of upgrade your Town Hall has (Town Hall, Spire, or Citadel) and which buildings you have.

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