Ice Crown Change

Moderator · Jul 18, 2009

21:46, 22nd Jul 2009
ap0calypse: Rejected

Theoratically, I can easily combine all your triggers (121) to only 2 triggers.
Of course, when I would do it, I would leave it at 13 to make it look better, which is still 9 times less than the original amount (!).

About the objects: making a naga-race is a bit of a gamble nowadays, since there are a lot of them and some of them are good.
I wouldn't advise this naga-race, if you compare it with the other (better ones).
Well, none of the races made me happy to see.
Most of the times, you just left the damage and/or HP the same and edited the description/name, which is just... lame.

The terrain was a blizzard terrain, no comments.

knight26 · Jul 20, 2009

First look review:
-No proper description

Naga review:
points:
-Lumber Mill uses the same model as the human ones.
-most of the tooltips are bugged.
-Not very balanced.
-Mana breaker unit, is the same as human spell caster unit.. not wise at all.
-Naga is a fish race. and they have harpy units? OMG?..

I took a look at the 2 other races, and i gotta say only the models and a few spells were changed.... i said it before and i'll say it again custom models or skins don't make a good custom race map.. read this tutorial: How to: Create a Full-working Custom Race/-by Interceptor.

Giovanni Boss · Jul 20, 2009

Some explanations:
About Mana Breaker, I changed it back to the original merely to make things easier to computer players, which still suck, so I guess I failed. Most units are really the same as originals for the same reason. Mainly, the upgrades and heros are customized.
I'd gladly change it heavily if it weren't for computer players.
About the Lumber Mill, I tried to use other models but none working models seemed to fit, so I stayed with it.
And yeah, they have harpys, since in Greek mythology there were beings really similar to harpys that inhabited the seas.

But I really have to thank you for commenting, so, thanks a lot. ^^

And considering computer players will always suck, I started to really customize the races. I wasn't going to do unless someone actually checked my map critically. xD
Still, units like the Fulborg Grunt will stay pretty much the same, 'cause they really fit. ^^

knight26 · Jul 21, 2009

Giovanni Boss said:
Some explanations:
About Mana Breaker, I changed it back to the original merely to make things easier to computer players, which still suck, so I guess I failed. Most units are really the same as originals for the same reason. Mainly, the upgrades and heros are customized.
I'd gladly change it heavily if it weren't for computer players.
About the Lumber Mill, I tried to use other models but none working models seemed to fit, so I stayed with it.
And yeah, they have harpys, since in Greek mythology there were beings really similar to harpys that inhabited the seas.

But I really have to thank you for commenting, so, thanks a lot. ^^

And considering computer players will always suck, I started to really customize the races. I wasn't going to do unless someone actually checked my map critically. xD
Still, units like the Fulborg Grunt will stay pretty much the same, 'cause they really fit. ^^

There are models here that u can use as a better fitting lumber mill.
And youre supposed to mention that the map is based on greek mythology lol. i was refering to warcraft lore.. (also there is a cool model u can use as wind model here).
You better customize the races more, and if you can't make AI for them, you can always ask for someone to make you one.

. (plus as i see that the nightelves are not changed, people can still play the game against AI-if ai is nighelf right?).
Well about the fulborg, panderan and fulborg are not the same race, so i recommend you to either chose one of these races to modificate..

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Good luck, im gonna make sure to review the updated version.

Ironside · Jul 21, 2009

Vote For Rejection

Barathrum's Review (Mini Moderator)

Author:
Author is vaild
10/10
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Description (Includes THW description, map description and Loading Screen):
THW ok, map ok, loading screen, not ok.
6/10
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Terrain:
even tho you wanted it like that, but the terrain is same as an existing map, wich i don't like at all.
3/10
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Triggers:
seem ok
10/10
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Gameplay:
The races are far to equal to the original...
3/10
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Imported Material:
You have green icons...
2/10
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Quest menu, hints:
No quest menu and hints
0/10
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Aditional Information:

You'll need to update your map very much to get it good.
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0%-49% = 1/5 vote for rejection
50%-60% = 2/5 but i vote for reviewed
61%-70% = 2/5 but i vote for Aproval
71%-80% = 3/5 vote for aproval
81%-92% = 4/5 vote for aproval
93%-100% = 5/5 vote for aproval
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Total: 34/70
= 48.5%

Vote for Aproval?= No
Vote for Rejection?= Yes
Vote for Reviewed?= No

Darkgamma · Jul 21, 2009

Code:

Status: OK
Rating: 15/20

You have done an amazing job adding models, as far as I can see. I personally like Human/Naga. This should not contain hints/quest since it is Altered Meele. Bash the AI for now to save a couple kilobytes, and maybe fix some models. Unit names are OK, but be a bit creative, y'know. Proper good job, mate!

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